MMA fans don't know what a "journeyman" is

[Deleted member 592822]

People here call people like Strickland (before he got the belt), Masvidal, Hooker, Josh Emmett, Vicente Luque, Derrick Lewis, Chris Curtis and such "journeymen"

That's absolutely not what a journeyman is. Those guys are top level fighters ranked in the top #15 in the world in the most competitive organization.

A journeyman is a guy who in boxing was collecting paycheck every Saturday by fighting people way above his league just to pad their records. He knew he would lose cause he's fighting someone way more skilled or/and younger and he's here so the opponent can have a win. He'll fight, sure, and do his best, sure, but he'll never sniff the top 100 in the world

You can say those guys are "gatekeepers" ok. And even gatekeepers have levels, gatekeeper to the big leagues, to the top 15, to the top 5 etc.

But stop using the word journeyman out of place that sounds ignorant

 

[Davidjacksonjones]

I thought a journeyman was just someone who goes on and enjoys the journey

 

[Deleted member 592822]

I thought a journeyman was just someone who goes on and enjoys the journey

 

[sdpdude9]

Only the current top 3 in a division are elite and everybody else is a journeyman or gatekeeper. That’s pretty much how sherdog views things.

 

[Blastbeat]

I thought a journeyman was just someone who goes on and enjoys the journey

 

[Davidjacksonjones]

Worst of all time < Tomato cans < Journeyman < ranked Contender < gate keeper <Title Challenger < Interim Champion < Undisputed champion < Long-time defending champion/multi division champions < GOAT (i think)

 

[Deleted member 592822]

Worst of all time < Tomato cans < Journeyman < ranked Contender < gate keeper <Title Challenger < Interim Champion < Undisputed champion < Long-time defending champion/multi division champions < GOAT (i think)

except the journeymen in your case are just middle of the pack fighters. they may have even won a regional belt. that's not a journeyman.

Only the current top 3 in a division are elite and everybody else is a journeyman or gatekeeper. That’s pretty much how sherdog views things.

And if you lose you were never that good. Also if you have a close fight against anything short of an absolute legend of the sport you're a can

 

[The-AxeMurderer]

It kind of fits with alot of those guys though honestly.

 

[Thesnake101]

It's different in MMA cuz of the exclusivity each org has when it comes to fighters.

 

[pride_rules]

 

[Poirierfan]

I thought a journeyman was just someone who goes on and enjoys the journey

Nah, he's talking about a Journeyman as in a guy that loves Journey.

 

[blewgums]

An athlete, who is technically competent, but unable to excel.

Is what a journeyman is.

Donald “Cold Bones” Cerrone for instance.

And yes, that’s his actual nickname. But only the smartest and best looking people know it.

 

[Bork Neslar]

Not all MMA fans, but you're right about that mistake. It happens because autistic nerds who live in a fantasy world of media consumption have unrealistic expectations about MMA fighters. And they're too opinionated about things they don't understand because they don't have a social life. So they tend do disdain every fighter that doesn't have a belt or isn't a social media personality.

 

[Fossor]

TS is a journeyman

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

It kind of fits with alot of those guys though honestly.

Well aint that ironic.
By the second definition all the ufc roster are journeymen.
Dont show this to dana or he’ll get ideas and force each of them to become independent contractors to avoid all the tax he can.

 

[Sincere Guy]

People here call people like Strickland (before he got the belt), Masvidal, Hooker, Josh Emmett, Vicente Luque, Derrick Lewis, Chris Curtis and such "journeymen"

That's absolutely not what a journeyman is. Those guys are top level fighters ranked in the top #15 in the world in the most competitive organization.

A journeyman is a guy who in boxing was collecting paycheck every Saturday by fighting people way above his league just to pad their records. He knew he would lose cause he's fighting someone way more skilled or/and younger and he's here so the opponent can have a win. He'll fight, sure, and do his best, sure, but he'll never sniff the top 100 in the world

You can say those guys are "gatekeepers" ok. And even gatekeepers have levels, gatekeeper to the big leagues, to the top 15, to the top 5 etc.

But stop using the word journeyman out of place that sounds ignorant

So, we can say Holland is almost a journeyman, and Jéssica Andrade is becoming one? haha got it... Thanks for the information.

 

[AmericanMMA]

It kind of fits with alot of those guys though honestly.

So i take it... it would be fair to say... Journeymen do ok

 

[HereticBD]

You can be ranked, and still be a journeyman. A journeyman isn't someone who just loses all the time. They're moderately successful professional athletes, who never reached the next level. Their tenure matters too, and is usually reserved for 10+ year veterans. Clay Guida, for instance, would qualify as a journeyman.

 

[GluttonforPunishment]

It kind of fits with alot of those guys though honestly.

Welp, that obliterates TS' rant.

 

[sonofjay817]

I thought a journeyman was just someone who goes on and enjoys the journey

why would he needs to enjoy the journeys to be a journeyman? I'm dubious.