Making your own protein mix what proportion whey to casein ?

[mean beans]

If you were making your own milk protein mix from a site online what proportion whey to casein would you recommend for an all purpose weight gain/cut product. I'm thinking of ordering a custom blend and thinking maybe 20% whey / 80% casein. I'm not planning on adding carbs or supplements to the mix. I just want to add extra protein to my current diet.

I just went through a 10lb bag of whey protein and liked the product, but the idea of a slower releasing protein sounds more ideal to me. Also I had no problem drinking the unflavored whey, does casein have the same ease of drinking without added flavor or sweetner? I'm not going to add anything but whey and casein so i'm hoping to get away with an unflavored mix that is drinkable.

edit: wikipedia seems to suggest casein is insoluble in water. So I'm thinking it won't mix well like pure whey.
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[otnemeM]

Can't really answer that because it'll depend on the use and "all purpose weight gain/cut product" doesn't really help.

IMO, "fast" protein is overrated. The benefits are poorly documented and most studies I've seen point to slower protein powders being better in just about anything. Then again, I strongly oppose use of post-workout-high-GI stuff so...
I just use whey the most because it's the cheapest. If I could, I'd always use some kind of flavored egg-white protein powder, maybe mixed with CC for my before-bed shake.

If it were me and I wanted to feel satisfied for about 2h30 (which is my absolute max) I'd go with 75% CC + 25% Whey. CC could be unflavored bulk, whey preferably flavored (bulk or not), and it's perfect for me.


Also, there's instantised casein nowadays. Mine mixes well. The only protein powder I had problems with was a Milk Protein Isolate which was very very very thin and mixed like crap. Couldn't even breathe in its direction without creating a freaking cloud.

 

[dingdangdoodle]

Go for quality, taste and mixability. Protein is all broken down into amino acids, doesn't matter if the source is whey, casein, hemp, bugs...

Focus on the amount, not the type:

0-90 minutes preworkout, have a solid, balanced meal:

Protein = 0.25g/lb TBW
Carbs = 0.25g/lb TBW
Adding fat at this point is fine, use your discretion as long as it fits into your macro goals. Note that this meal is skipped if you train 1st thing in the morning.

[OR]

30-0 minutes preworkout - (and/or sipped throughout the workout), have a liquid or easily digested meal:

Protein = 0.25g/lb TBW
Carbs = 0.25g/lb TBW
If you were going to train for close to or more than 2 hours continuously, it would definitely benefit you to have this extra preworkout meal either immediately prior to, or sipped during training. Keep the fats here incidental & not added if you're prone to gastric distress during training.

Within 30 minutes postworkout, have either a liquid or solid meal:

Protein = 0.25g/lb TBW
Carbs = 0.25-0.5g/lb TBW, depending on how carb-restricted your diet is.
Amount of fat here doesn't matter as long as your daily target is hit.

Post-postworkout is simply your next scheduled meal, whether it's 1, 2, or 3 hrs later simply doesn't matter - especially if your immediate postworkout meal was designed as above.

 

[modena1983]

Milk Protein Isolate is the answer you are looking for.

 

[mean beans]

Milk Protein Isolate is the answer you are looking for.

thanks, apparently it has the same ratio I was thinking of making. It is also $20 cheaper for 10lbs
than the 80/20 Casein/whey mix I was looking at making.


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