Media Ken Shamrock Podcast

Ken always attributes his losses to: the ruleset, injuries, external factors from a-z. I wanted to like him, i really did. I prefer Don Fryes podcast
 
That was really cool, never thought of him as a founder of Pancrase. It was interesting to hear him express frustration at the fixed fights. And his voice went really weird when he said "young boys" lol, but I'm pretty sure that was innocent. It just jumped out at me because of the times we're living in.

At the 26 minute mark, he's talking about fighters who betrayed him, took all the things he provided for them and then turned against him. I assume he's talking about Frank, but who else had an acrimonious split with the Lion's Den? I don't remember the politics of the time at all -- that was pre-internet for me, never had a view behind the scenes. I read his book, but don't remember it if he talked about it.

I didn't think the host was very good, but he surprised me a few times with the quality of his questions, like if he took on the responsibility for other people because he was following his dad's lead.

The bit talking about the fight with Frank was iinteresting, that would have been nice to see. Frank was always a much smaller fighter, I agree that he proposed the fight because he thought Ken was hugely diminished in ability. Interesting to hear the story about BJ Penn beating Frank's ass in training because Frank didn't know who BJ was. Also surprising to hear Ken call Frank a good guy.

lol I spoke too soon about the host. "Have you ever had an experience with the supernatural?"
 
don't ask said:
And his voice went really weird when he said "young boys" lol, but I'm pretty sure that was innocent. It just jumped out at me because of the times we're living in.
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Yup, thats your brain and mind at work, not Kens.

don't ask said:
At the 26 minute mark, he's talking about fighters who betrayed him, took all the things he provided for them and then turned against him. I assume he's talking about Frank, but who else had an acrimonious split with the Lion's Den? I don't remember the politics of the time at all -- that was pre-internet for me, never had a view behind the scenes. I read his book, but don't remember it if he talked about it.
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The Lights out Podcast by Chris Lytle has some excellent interviews on Lions Den guys that sheds a lot of light.

don't ask said:
The bit talking about the fight with Frank was iinteresting, that would have been nice to see. Frank was always a much smaller fighter, I agree that he proposed the fight because he thought Ken was hugely diminished in ability.
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Early Ken would have handed Frank his ass. Frank would have probably KO'd Ken in later years, I mean even Royce Gracie got a TKO.
Frank would've had to overcome the older brother beatdown thing though.

don't ask said:
Interesting to hear the story about BJ Penn beating Frank's ass in training because Frank didn't know who BJ was. Also surprising to hear Ken call Frank a good guy.
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Thats interesting, might have to give this one a listen. Frank said he would have loved to have fought BJ in his prime I remember. People forget the phenom he was in manhandled Matt Hughes.
 
Plissken said:
When I've heard him on other podcasts he's a pretty good storyteller.
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most of it about how wonderful he is, i'd assume. that's all i've ever heard when he talks.
 
don't ask said:
That was really cool, never thought of him as a founder of Pancrase. It was interesting to hear him express frustration at the fixed fights. And his voice went really weird when he said "young boys" lol, but I'm pretty sure that was innocent. It just jumped out at me because of the times we're living in.

At the 26 minute mark, he's talking about fighters who betrayed him, took all the things he provided for them and then turned against him. I assume he's talking about Frank, but who else had an acrimonious split with the Lion's Den? I don't remember the politics of the time at all -- that was pre-internet for me, never had a view behind the scenes. I read his book, but don't remember it if he talked about it.

I didn't think the host was very good, but he surprised me a few times with the quality of his questions, like if he took on the responsibility for other people because he was following his dad's lead.

The bit talking about the fight with Frank was iinteresting, that would have been nice to see. Frank was always a much smaller fighter, I agree that he proposed the fight because he thought Ken was hugely diminished in ability. Interesting to hear the story about BJ Penn beating Frank's ass in training because Frank didn't know who BJ was. Also surprising to hear Ken call Frank a good guy.

lol I spoke too soon about the host. "Have you ever had an experience with the supernatural?"
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Thanks for the feedback. Any constructive criticism is much welcomed.

Yeah I ask everyone that, sometimes you get some interesting stories
 
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