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Reyes, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
Agreed. But the point was that some people here were claiming that Reyes was nearly finishing Jones multiple times in the fight. I don't remember one second of that fight where I felt that either fighter was close to being finished at all. It was mostly point fighting, volume, and octagon control from both of them.Defence doesn't score in MMA. Blocking and slipping shots would be worth mentioning if Reyes hadn't still outstruck him. The end result is Reyes was more offensive, landed more and his striking was impacting Jones who had to continually defend.
Close fight, but I really see Jones winning that one. Reyes fought like a ***** in the 5th round. You can't defeat the champion like that.
There was a 49-46 scorecard for JonesI took the time to watch this one again paying very close attention. It's the second time I rewatched this fight since watching it live. First watch live I thought Reyes won. The time I think Reyes took the first 3 rounds and Jon the last 2. I thought it was pretty clear, Reyes was far more active and landed more every round (1-3). I can't understand how the judges gave Jon some of those rounds. I really think the judges were off on this fight, two judges gave Jon round 2 which was IMO Reyes best round. He threw 30 more strikes and landed far more.
I took a look at that judge's history once. He ONLY judges in Texas, which is notorious for a terrible commission and bad decisions, and he has had scores that go against popular opinion over 60% of the time, including one on the same event that even the least skeptical of critics would assume it's based somewhat in corruption. And I never throw that word around lightly.There was a 49-46 scorecard for Jones
The judges couldn't be more clueless
Reyes easily took the first 3 rounds
It was weird. The Weidman matchup was highly criticized from the get, iirc. No reason that should have been put together.Is Reyes retired? Was kind of crazy he got a title shot from being Weidman's 5th KO loss in 6 fights and a split decision with Volkan Oezdemir, then basically beat Jones, and got flatlined in every fight after that.
There was a 49-46 scorecard for Jones
The judges couldn't be more clueless
Reyes easily took the first 3 rounds
That is a point I tried to make to people who don't understand that the score isn't the prime measure of the "closeness" of the fight, and that you can't say that one judge giving Jon round 2 is fine and one judge giving Jon round 3 is fine, but the judge who did both is wrong. You either need to think at least 2 judges are wrong or none are.Right after the fight, people on Sherdog were very divided about if Jones had won round 2 or round 3. Even the 48-47 judges had scores of Jones 2-4-5 and Jones 3-4-5.
Given that both rounds 2 and 3 were close enough to consider giving to Jones, it really isn't all that outlandish for one judge to award him both.
I tend to count on my fingers since I have 5 of them, which is convenient since that's the amount of rounds judges score by, and Dom had more fingers.I tend to judge close fights by thinking of which man would eventually kill the other if there was no time limit.
And Jones would've killed Reyes.
Can't win running in the 5th.
I tend to count on my fingers since I have 5 of them, which is convenient since that's the amount of rounds judges score by, and Dom had more fingers.
Jon didn't win the first 3 rounds, during which, he had literally turned and sprinted away a few times, it's funny to talk about who ran
Damn I didnt know Sal D'Amato was on SherdogMMA striking is not Olympic boxing. The goal is not to land as many strikes as possible, but to do as much damage as possible to make progress towards a finish. Watch the replay between rounds 1 and 2. None of the Reyes highlight strikes did any damage; they were a combination of slaps, grazes, near misses, and a soft counter that caught Jones off balance and had no follow-up. Reyes had exactly one damaging strike during the round, a left leg body shot that landed hard just below Jones' guard. Jones had 3 or 4 similarly damaging strikes in the round. Reyes was mostly gassing himself with high volume. Same goes for round 2. Reyes did much better in round 3, doing some real damage and clearly taking the round.
As for the last two rounds, Reyes had a good flurry at the start of round 4, then, for the rest of the fight, he was gassed and fighting in survival mode, just trying not to get finished. Reyes didn't really contest round 4 or 5 at all.
Reyes rope-a-doped himself in rounds 1 and 2, took round 3, and survived rounds 4 and 5 with 9 minutes and 30 seconds of no offense to finish the fight.
I used to think that was a close fight, but my MMA knowledge has gotten much better over the years and, looking back at it now, this was not close. 49-46 Jones.
You've either gotta be braindead or just straight up not know what you're looking at to give rounds 1-3 to anyone but ReyesRight after the fight, people on Sherdog were very divided about if Jones had won round 2 or round 3. Even the 48-47 judges had scores of Jones 2-4-5 and Jones 3-4-5.
Given that both rounds 2 and 3 were close enough to consider giving to Jones, it really isn't all that outlandish for one judge to award him both.