Opinion John Birch Society

[fingercuffs]

Which mod here told me about John Birch? I had the book delivered last week and it's quite the eye opener. I think it was after me mentioning The Family and/or Heritage Foundation?
I legit can't remember who it was or I'd PM my thanks.

For anyone new to the debacle interested in these society type malarkeys:

John Birch Society - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ShadowRun]

Which mod here told me about John Birch? I had the book delivered last week and it's quite the eye opener. I think it was after me mentioning The Family and/or Heritage Foundation?
I legit can't remember who it was or I'd PM my thanks.

For anyone new to the debacle interested in these society type malarkeys:

John Birch Society - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I remember hearing about it a few years ago, trying to tie it all up to Trump, which some of that is very true. Polarization and idealism.
I’m surprised it’s not talked about more often.

 

[fingercuffs]

I remember hearing about it a few years ago, trying to tie it all up to Trump, which some of that is very true. Polarization and idealism.
I’m surprised it’s not talked about more often.

I'm surprised I hadn't heard anything about it till the mod alerted me to it being I'm a bit obsessed with this type of stuff and all the cults.

 

[HOLA]

Bircherism and McCarthyism are huge antecedents to where we are now. Republicans welcomed them all with open arms after Goldwater lost. All the kooks, cranks, charlatans and demagogues now had a permanent home. They ate and trained well. Eventually they started using PEDS. Fox News was their steroids and the internet was their EPO. This is their Frankenstein monster:

 

[fingercuffs]

Bircherism and McCarthyism are huge antecedents to where we are now. Republicans welcomed them all with open arms after Goldwater lost. All the kooks, cranks, charlatans and demagogues now had a permanent home. They ate and trained well. Eventually they started using PEDS. Fox News was their steroids and the internet was their EPO. This is their Frankenstein monster:

The book is legit blatant with the intent like The Heritage Foundation is glaring us in the face.

 

[Loiosh]

Which mod here told me about John Birch?

@Sinister

 

[Sinister]

These groups are what we got for not sufficiently punishing the Confederacy after they lost the Civil War. And for allowing Jim Crow to squash the cultural revolution that needed to take place once we legally recognized that black people are ENTIRE human beings.

But like all things, racism isnt the entire problem here. What racists and apologists of racism (and xenophobia) never like to admit is how their racism is used against their own interests by the Capital class. This is about maintenance of economic heirarchy, for which maintenance of social heirarchy is just a tool.

But yes, these groups and those who fund them need to be discussed more because the reality is if you scratch a divisive issue in the US, you find a billionaire. If you scratch the complacency of Democrats, you find more billionaires.

You know how this Administration is going after NGO's and such to attack the funding of what they think is US "leftism?" I dont care about that at all. Leftism shouldn't even be funded by the philanthropy of wealthy donors. If we do that we're doing the same thing the rightists do, begging for scraps. Which means we will have to oppose whatever they oppose. The Suffrage Movement, the Civil Rights Movement, and all the Labor uprisings, none of them were funded by 501c3's. They didnt wait or beg for the generosity of wealthy people.

 

[Loiosh]

These groups are what we got for not sufficiently punishing the Confederacy after they lost the Civil War.

Lincoln's assassination coupled with his unfortunate choice of VP had a lot to do with that.

 

[Deorum]

Lincoln's assassination coupled with his unfortunate choice of VP had a lot to do with that.

It was quite unfortunate, but obviously done out of pure political pragmatism to broaden his base for re-election (uncertain at the time) in an attempt towards national unity. Could he have known Andrew Johnson would be as horrid as he was? Maybe, but he also didn't envision himself being taken out and Johnson becoming POTUS.

 

[Sinister]

Lincoln's assassination coupled with his unfortunate choice of VP had a lot to do with that.

So I think the way I'd elaborate on that was that the US was far more racist even than Lincoln realized. His Presidential debates were insane, the things he was called. But he was facing forced isolation by Europe, France particularly. I'd wager he likely understood that what he needed to do would cost him his life. His writings in the time before his assassination got very progressive very fast. As if he was writing out what he really felt.

Johnson was like the Trump of his day. "Yeah all this fun you're having and progress you're making? All that sh*t is over!" The former Confederate capitalists feared the one thing all capitalists fear more than anything else (aside from maybe their Fathers)...competition. Having to ACTUALLY do some work, do some innovation, rather than live in their weirdo alternate realities where they're the new aristocracy because they're meaner...and thus, better, than everyone else.