Is this typical 90s amateur boxing? (Cro Cop fight)

[Deleted member 466273]

It looks weird to me. No range finding/very little jabbing. Just banging with no self preservation.

You might recognize one of the fighters..

 

[Deleted member 466273]

Here's what is says on Cro Cops wikipedia:

He was a successful amateur boxer and medalled numerous times in international competition, and was also a member of Croatia's world team when he competed at the 1997 Amateur Boxing World Championships.

He had accumulated an amateur boxing record of 48–8 (31 KO's).

What would be Mirco's estimated rank as a pro, you think? 20-25?

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Here's what is says on Cro Cops wikipedia:

He was a successful amateur boxer and medalled numerous times in international competition, and was also a member of Croatia's world team when he competed at the 1997 Amateur Boxing World Championships.

He had accumulated an amateur boxing record of 48–8 (31 KO's).

What would be Mirco's estimated rank as a pro, you think? 20-25?

Old man cro cop's corpse beat big baby twice before he switched to boxing and became an undefeated world championship challenger. I don't care if the rematch was close.

If Cro cop dedicated his life only to boxing(no kickboxing or mma), he would be world champion. Idk for how long or when or how many times, but it's damn safe easy bet to say he'd win at least1 hw world championship belt in most eras.

 

[ImmigrantMentality]

Crocop actually looks pretty fluid here with his boxing compared to when I watched him in k1 or mma where he always looked stiff in his upper body with no head movement.

Doesnt look that weird to me, its a amateur fight, they aren't fighting for a gold medal. I've seen pro fights uglier than this

 

[Deleted member 466273]

Crocop actually looks pretty fluid here with his boxing compared to when I watched him in k1 or mma where he always looked stiff in his upper body with no head movement.

Doesnt look that weird to me, its a amateur fight, they aren't fighting for a gold medal. I've seen pro fights uglier than this

It's not ugly, just not a sweet science tactically. I don't think Cro Cops opponent looks very good, and yet he lost..

 

[Deleted member 466273]

If Cro cop dedicated his life only to boxing(no kickboxing or mma), he would be world champion. Idk for how long or when or how many times, but it's damn safe easy bet to say he'd win at least1 hw world championship belt in most eras.

How is that a safe bet when he can't even beat that guy?

 

[Deleted member 466273]

Crocop actually looks pretty fluid here with his boxing compared to when I watched him in k1 or mma where he always looked stiff in his upper body with no head movement.

He broke Bob Sapps orbital bone with a left cross

 

[Absolut]

Yes! Check out his head movement, how he slips the left hook, and rolls with the punch to take it. Frazier, Holmes, Evander, and even Tommy Morrison would have nothing for that.

 

[DeJulez]

Old man cro cop's corpse beat big baby twice before he switched to boxing and became an undefeated world championship challenger. I don't care if the rematch was close.

If Cro cop dedicated his life only to boxing(no kickboxing or mma), he would be world champion. Idk for how long or when or how many times, but it's damn safe easy bet to say he'd win at least1 hw world championship belt in most eras.

Big Baby should've won both matches and those two kickboxing fights showed why no one watches it. Two of the worst fights i have ever seen.
Cro cop wouldve never been a champ in boxing and Big Baby wont be one either

 

[Deleted member 466273]

Cro cop wouldve never been a champ in boxing

What does that have to do with anything? Are you useless just because you won't be champ?

 

[DeJulez]

What does that have to do with anything? Are you useless just because you won't be champ?

Someone said hed be a champ in boxing if he was dedicated, and I'm saying he would have never been a champ no matter how much dedication.

 

[Blazeblack]

Big Baby should've won both matches and those two kickboxing fights showed why no one watches it. Two of the worst fights i have ever seen.
Cro cop wouldve never been a champ in boxing and Big Baby wont be one either

No way Dude, I agree that Miller edged out Cro Cop in the first fighting, but he got absolutely worked in the rematch. He was beaten in every aspect of the fight. Ancient Cro Cop even out boxed him, no scratch that, he got fucking taken to school by a punch drunk Dinosaur then,to and insult to injury, failed the post fight drug test. For those of us who are also kickboxing fans Miller getting popped for peds going into the Joshua fight was no surprise.

 

[DeJulez]

No way Dude, I agree that Miller edged out Cro Cop in the first fighting, but he got absolutely worked in the rematch. He was beaten in every aspect of the fight. Ancient Cro Cop even out boxed him, no scratch that, he got fucking taken to school by a punch drunk Dinosaur then,to and insult to injury, failed the post fight drug test. For those of us who are also kickboxing fans Miller getting popped for peds going into the Joshua fight was no surprise.

I dont agree Cro Cop dominated him in the 2nd fight.
Also Big Baby isnt shit and was going to get flattened by Joshua.
He's not very good.

 

[Blazeblack]

I’ve made this point before, Cro Cop had a decent amateur career, won a couple national titles and even won silver in the world military games. That experience clearly rounded out his game, and made him a kickboxing champion and a top K-1 contender, and eventual Pride champion, but his boxing probably wouldn’t have translated well into the pro ranks. He had good power and hand speed, was very physically strong but was very difficult to manage (why he ended up not fighting in the 2002 k-1 gp, which he was the favorite to win) and had a glass jaw which led to several ko defeats. You can get away with having several losses in kickboxing ( to a smaller extent in mma) and still get big opportunities. A couple bad losses in boxing can end any chances of making a brake though in your career. Simply said a boxing title was never going to be in the cards for old Cro Cop.

 

[BluntTrauma21]

I’ve made this point before, Cro Cop had a decent amateur career, won a couple national titles and even won silver in the world military games. That experience clearly rounded out his game, and made him a kickboxing champion and a top K-1 contender, and eventual Pride champion, but his boxing probably wouldn’t have translated well into the pro ranks. He had good power and hand speed, was very physically strong but was very difficult to manage (why he ended up not fighting in the 2002 k-1 gp, which he was the favorite to win) and had a glass jaw which led to several ko defeats. You can get away with having several losses in kickboxing ( to a smaller extent in mma) and still get big opportunities. A couple bad losses in boxing can end any chances of making a brake though in your career. Simply said a boxing title was never going to be in the cards for old Cro Cop.

Well said, and your location is too real, lol.

 

[Deleted member 466273]

I’ve made this point before, Cro Cop had a decent amateur career, won a couple national titles and even won silver in the world military games. That experience clearly rounded out his game, and made him a kickboxing champion and a top K-1 contender, and eventual Pride champion, but his boxing probably wouldn’t have translated well into the pro ranks. He had good power and hand speed, was very physically strong but was very difficult to manage (why he ended up not fighting in the 2002 k-1 gp, which he was the favorite to win) and had a glass jaw which led to several ko defeats. You can get away with having several losses in kickboxing ( to a smaller extent in mma) and still get big opportunities. A couple bad losses in boxing can end any chances of making a brake though in your career. Simply said a boxing title was never going to be in the cards for old Cro Cop.

Yeah that's true. You're fucked with a glass jaw in boxing, unless your name is Wladimir Klitchko in a "weak" era in which you are classes above your opponents.. You can however manage with a glass jaw in kickboxing due to the ranges involved, I suppose.

I didn't know Cro Cop had a glass jaw, though

 

[Blazeblack]

Yeah that's true. You're fucked with a glass jaw in boxing, unless your name is Wladimir Klitchko in a "weak" era in which you are classes above your opponents.. You can however manage with a glass jaw in kickboxing due to the ranges involved, I suppose.

I didn't know Cro Cop had a glass jaw, though

Yeah his weak jaw was pretty notorious (been ko’d/ tko’d 10 times), not uncommon for aggressive fighters with a lot of stoppages on their records to have suspect chins or have jaws that badly deteriorate.

 

[iwillbebackin3weeks]

give old Cro Cop 3 weeks and he KOs joshua

 

[Deleted member 466273]

Yeah his weak jaw was pretty notorious (been ko’d/ tko’d 10 times), not uncommon for aggressive fighters with a lot of stoppages on their records to have suspect chins or have jaws that badly deteriorate.

Just because you get stopped every loss doesn't mean you have a glass jaw. Tyson got koed 3 times in his early losses (Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis), and he sure as hell doesn't have a glass jaw.

 

[Blazeblack]

Just because you get stopped every loss doesn't mean you have a glass jaw. Tyson got koed 3 times in his early losses (Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis), and he sure as hell doesn't have a glass jaw.

No maybe not, but Tyson wasn’t getting stopped in the first round against mid tier competition. Cro Cop was stopped by Brendan Schaub, Gonzaga and Micheal McDonald, decent fighters but by no means world beaters that you could compare to a Holyfield or a Lewis. To be clear though McDonald was a solid K-1 fighter that won the k-1 Las Vegas tournament a couple times, but had average power at best. Defiantly wasn’t supposed to be blowing out a top 5 guy like Cro Cop in the first round.