Is striking more difficult to learn or master than grappling?

[chamcham]

I’ve noticed that a lot of grapplers in the UFc never really get good at striking. But strikers can often quick learn takedown defense and at least some submission defense.

It seems like KO power and striking IQ is something that fighters either have or they don’t. Why is it so hard for grapplers to successfully integrate striking into their game? Does the “most fights end on the ground” mentality prevent them from realizing the full potential of striking?

I’m wondering what a fighter with the boxing of McGregor and wrestling of Cejudo (or judo of Ronda Rousey and kickboxing of JJ/Holly) would accomplish in the UFC.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Striking.

Grappling is in our nature. Just look at sex.

 

[p4pgoat]

Striking is much more difficult to learn.

and most fighters will never master it.

 

[Mysterio]

Yes... striking is something that only a true natural can become great at.

On the other hand a natural can become a great striker a lot faster than anyone can become a great wrestler/grappler.

Becoming a truly great MMA wreslter/grappler takes nearly a lifetime. Someone with a born talent for striking can rise to the top of the MMA striking rank in quick order.

 

[ewww21]

Striking is easier to learn if you have a chin and KO power, just like actual grappling is more in tune with you if you have heart, a gas tank, and durability.

Sprawling isn't really grappling. It's avoiding grappling.

 

[Thesnake101]

Depends on the fighter, also, defending is not the same.

Sure, a striker can learn to defend submissions, but he's still going to get controlled by a better grappler if the fight hits the mat. Same way as a grappler will get outstruck by a striker if the fight stays on the feet.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

It probably depends on the person. Everyone is different. It took me much longer to be a great grappler (judo/bjj) than it did a great striker (boxing/Muay Thai).

 

[Buff]

On your first day in a Jiu-Jitsu class you learn a submission hold.

Your first boxing class you do pushups and learn how to stand.

 

[Gratis]

It probably depends on the person. Everyone is different. It took me much longer to be a great grappler (judo/bjj) than it did a great striker (boxing/Muay Thai).

And how do you know you're a great striker?

Grappling arts like Judo/JJ are better at measuring someone's ability because there's a defined ranking system in a controlled environment. Only way to measure the worth of a Boxer/Nak Muay is by actually fighting, and even that has more variables to consider such as quality of competition.

 

[Mmaprovost]

I’ve noticed that a lot of grapplers in the UFc never really get good at striking. But strikers can often quick learn takedown defense and at least some submission defense.

It seems like KO power and striking IQ is something that fighters either have or they don’t. Why is it so hard for grapplers to successfully integrate striking into their game? Does the “most fights end on the ground” mentality prevent them from realizing the full potential of striking?

I’m wondering what a fighter with the boxing of McGregor and wrestling of Cejudo (or judo of Ronda Rousey and kickboxing of JJ/Holly) would accomplish in the UFC.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

And how do you know you're a great striker?

Grappling arts like Judo/JJ are better at measuring someone's ability because there's a defined ranking system in a controlled environment. Only way to measure the worth of a Boxer/Nak Muay is by actually fighting, and even that has more variables to consider such as quality of competition.

Cuz when I touch them with teh jab they go sleepy


It's because I've won a whole bunch and tend to dominate those with similar experience and training time. Plus one time Kru DellaGrotte told me I was slicker than oil on water.

 

[SuperNerd]

Striking

 

[Tylerlikesmma]

you can take most any semi-athletic person, or maybe even a non-athletic person, & have them train grappling hard for a month or two & that person will have a good shot at using that grappling to defend themselves against a non-trained person.

Conversely, you can take most people and have them train striking hard for the same period of time & put them against someone with no formal striking training, & there's still a really good chance of them getting rocked against someone who is on day one.

imo, striking takes much longer to get comfortable with & for you to be able to utilize what you've learned, while under fire.

Grappling fundamentals are easier to grasp & use against a resisting opponent. Striking takes a lot of time for most people to be able to grasp & apply the fundamentals in the heat of a striking exchange.

 

[Gratis]

Cuz when I touch them with teh jab they go sleepy


It's because I've won a whole bunch and tend to dominate those with similar experience and training time. Plus one time Kru DellaGrotte told me I was slicker than oil on water.

Don't mean to call you out, just saying that it's easier to measure someone's skill in those particular grappling disciplines than striking arts like Boxing/MT.

 

[ChumpyKiwi]

I'd say striking is easier to practice, harder to be good at and grappling is the other way around; harder to practice and easier to be good at. For beginners of course

 

[noc]

Grappling is more difficult for me, you can learn striking for watching someone good and practicing the moves one million times

 

[Taric]

Excluding GSP, I've never seen a guy with a striking background become an elite level grappler.
I've seen hundreds of grappling based fighters become elite level strikers... I mean every champion nowadays has a wrestling base.

 

[P4PSHERGOAT]

Hard to say, I think striking is more talent based on the higher levels and grappling can maybe be due to hard work and comprehension more so than striking. But at the end of the day some people are natural grapplers and some natural strikers in my opinion

 

[P4PSHERGOAT]

Excluding GSP, I've never seen a guy with a striking background become an elite level grappler.
I've seen multiple grappling based fighters become elite level strikers.

Yeah that’s a good point, I think grappling is more difficult personally and it’s probably because striking is more natural to learn

 

[Gratis]

Excluding GSP, I've never seen a guy with a striking background become an elite level grappler.
I've seen hundreds of grappling based fighters become elite level strikers... I mean every champion nowadays has a wrestling base.

No you haven't.