Media Is Chris Weidman better than his MMA record?

[BigOlJeet]

He became a can and became shit.

 

[Ibm]

If we are talking about prime weidman, yes he is lightyears better than his record. His decline was devastating and was never the same. he was a totally different after his loss. In his prime, he may very well clean out today's division except maybe piererra.

 

[KO Shotz]

He was never the same after the Yoel Romero fight. That flying knee changed him.

Weidman wasn't overrated nor was he underrated. He wasn't great but wasn't trash.

His elbow vs Munoz was pretty fckn cool too. He also dethroned one of the most dominant guys ever who reigned over that division for years with ease, who happens to be one of my favorite fighters of all time in Anderson Silva.

 

[TheBulge]

The facts speak for themselves. He came right around the time the legends were aging and a new flood of elite MW's showed up.

He beat the aging Brazilians in their late 30s in Silva, Vitor, Machida.

Then lost very brutally against Luke, Romero, Jacare and Mousasi(it would have been brutal if he didn't quit and the DQ attempt backfired).

That's about as clear cut as it gets. To make matters worse, there's the USADA issue that ruins his legacy more and the fact that he's a very nasty person using dirty tactics and his team were equally horrible people.

In the end he got his karma with all the KO losses and the most ironic moment in combat sports history when he got his leg snapped.

 

[GoWokeGoBroke]

He also has one of the all time toughest fight schedule sooo

 

[Limeade]

He gave us good fights with Rockhold and Jacare.

He should have been DQ against Bruno and was lucky against Kelvin.

 

[Dr Fong]

He has a great record. Who cares about his losses at the end of his career? No shame in the losses to Romero, Rockhold, Mousasi, Jacare, Reyes. He also some great wins.

'End of his career' - he was in his prime at 31-32 when he lost Rockhold, Mousasi and Romero. Still only 34-35 when he lost to Jacare and Reyes.

So the 'end of his career' includes when he was younger than any of his ranked opponents on his initial run that constitute his 'great wins'.

Weidman fluffers are truly embarrassing.

 

[mirellale]

Even before becoming champ, there were talks about his body being riddled with injuries. He did well considering this

 

[Pequeño Corey]

We all have our own criteria.

If you’re the kind of person who judges a fighter based only their championship run, or solely on their prime years, then Chris is a top 5 MW easily. You would also likely rank guys like Fedor and BJ highly.

If you discredit an entire career based on losses that come later, then you probably think Chris is shit.

If you try evaluate quality of competition by comparing fighters from different eras, you might say that Chris only beat past prime Brazilians. You’d also probably be the kind to discredit Stipe.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

'End of his career' - he was in his prime at 31-32 when he lost Rockhold, Mousasi and Romero. Still only 34-35 when he lost to Jacare and Reyes.

So the 'end of his career' includes when he was younger than any of his ranked opponents on his initial run that constitute his 'great wins'.

Weidman fluffers are truly embarrassing.

Everyone’s physical prime is different. Chris, Cain, and Fedor had way more mileage on their bodies in their early 30’s than someone like you who’s probably a fat, disgusting slob.

Let me dumb this down with a simple analogy that your impermeable smooth brain can comprehend. Is a 30 year old who’s now a paraplegic in a wheel chair after a bad car accident also in his physical prime and the heighth of his abilities? According to you, “yes”, because of a number. Wow. Just, mindblowing.

Chris had something like 30 surgeries in his career, including multiple knee surgeries, even before the leg break.

 

[Dr Fong]

Everyone’s physical prime is different. Chris, Cain, and Fedor had way more mileage on their bodies in their early 30’s than someone like you who’s probably a fat, disgusting slob.

Let me dumb this down with a simple analogy that your impermeable smooth brain can comprehend. Is a 30 year old who’s now a paraplegic in a wheel chair after a bad car accident also in his physical prime and the heighth of his abilities? According to you, “yes”, because of a number. Wow. Just, mindblowing.

Chris had something like 30 surgeries in his career, including multiple knee surgeries, even before the leg break.

Shitdog at its aggressively retarded finest.

Weidman is not going to fuck you.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

He was a bright prospect who beat up a few old Brazilians and eventually lost a lot due to injuries. I don’t think he was ever truly elite but he was well rounded and in the right place at the right time.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Everyone’s physical prime is different. Chris, Cain, and Fedor had way more mileage on their bodies in their early 30’s than someone like you who’s probably a fat, disgusting slob.

Let me dumb this down with a simple analogy that your impermeable smooth brain can comprehend. Is a 30 year old who’s now a paraplegic in a wheel chair after a bad car accident also in his physical prime and the heighth of his abilities? According to you, “yes”, because of a number. Wow. Just, mindblowing.

Chris had something like 30 surgeries in his career, including multiple knee surgeries, even before the leg break.

Was it those injuries that gave him such awful fight IQ in the Rockhold fight? No doubt they hampered him but I don’t think you can blame that on injury.

I don’t think he was ever that good. He was good enough to beat some old Brazilians past their prime when he was much younger but he was a step below a truly elite fighter then the wheels fell completely off due to injury

 

[Bwagster]

 

[RockyLockridge]

if chris retired after beating vitor he'd be goat like khabib is in some retarded circles

 

[Mob69]

The facts speak for themselves. He came right around the time the legends were aging and a new flood of elite MW's showed up.

He beat the aging Brazilians in their late 30s in Silva, Vitor, Machida.

Then lost very brutally against Luke, Romero, Jacare and Mousasi(it would have been brutal if he didn't quit and the DQ attempt backfired).

That's about as clear cut as it gets. To make matters worse, there's the USADA issue that ruins his legacy more and the fact that he's a very nasty person using dirty tactics and his team were equally horrible people.

In the end he got his karma with all the KO losses and the most ironic moment in combat sports history when he got his leg snapped.

By USADA issue do you mean his sudden drop off in the USADA era?

 

[Robbocop]

A lot of MMA fighters suffer a bunch of losses at the later stages of their career, in fact it's probably the most common outcome even for great fighters in MMA. Look at Anderson Silva, Wanderlei Silva, Fabricio Werdum, Junior Dos Santos, sadly even Fedor to an extent. Weidman had a relatively small amount of fights (24) compared to many other MMA greats, so his losses hit the ratios on his record a bit harder.

He's 16-8 against a lot of top competition, and he took out Anderson Silva when Silva seemed to be basically untouchable. You say it like your record equals your MMA greatness, but actually MMA greatness is from your accomplishments such as becoming champion, defending your belt, taking out the top guys, etc. You got a guy like BJ Penn considered to be one of MMA's all time greats and his record is 16-14, just for example.

 

[mkt]

In his prime, as good of a prospect as Khamzat, and at least as good as DDP and Khamzat as a fighter in his peak at the very worst. He probably was better.

He and Rockhold both fell off a cliff after their fight. I've never seen anything quite like it. Neither one were old, but both declined rapidly after that.

But yes, prime Weidman was very good.

 

[mkt]

Honestly who did Franklin ever beat ?

Chris had his run. 4 titles. Lost a lot of steam. MW was the most stacked division. Was. And never again.

Franklin beat some good opponents, but from an earlier era. He was a better version of Bisping. Bisping lost to Wand and was KO'd within seconds by prime Hendo. Rich beat the same Wand twice and lost a razor-thin decision to prime Hendo because Dan turned into a wrestler when he couldn't outstrike Rich.

 

[JustOnce]

He and Rockhold both fell off a cliff after their fight. I've never seen anything quite like it. Neither one were old, but both declined rapidly after that.

But yes, prime Weidman was very good.

Both guys are arguably better than two guys fighting for the belt. But they declined bad fr.