I’ll admit that I was wrong about Oliveira

[Marko Polo]

I once saw Oliveira as a quitter who gave up vs Cub Swanson. Gif below

Although there’s been little evidence to say that his mental fortitude has improved; he’s steam rolled his last opponents and faced little adversity, I think it’s unfair at this point to discredit him as a fighter or as one who hasn’t evolved in his move up to 155. He looks like a completely different man now, and yes he was slick at 145, but he’s a big 155’er. He manhandled Tony on the ground and slammed him multiple times. I know Tony’s not the best he’s ever been, but that performance was very good. It was truly bizarre to see El Cucuy get ragdolled like that, and I hope to see him back against some lower ranked guys.

 

[Wreckless]

Crazy to think he once fought at FW. I thought he looked big compared to Tony.

 

[Krixes]

He looked amazing. He'll still have a tough time with a great striker with really good TDD imo...

 

[loyalyolayal]

I never thought of him as a quitter like the rest of sherdog. He just got hit really hard. He has taken power shots and still ploughs ahead. It's those that hit him right on the button that makes people question his heart.

 

[VaselineSweep]

He looked amazing. He'll still have a tough time with a great striker with really good TDD imo...

too bad there's none at lw

 

[chardog]

he's changed ever since the yellow hair. He's finding his second wind, and the experience is paying off

 

[textwarrior]

I once saw Oliveira as a quitter who gave up vs Cub Swanson. Gif below

Although there’s been little evidence to say that his mental fortitude has improved; he’s steam rolled his last opponents and faced little adversity, I think it’s unfair at this point to discredit him as a fighter or as one who hasn’t evolved in his move up to 155. He looks like a completely different man now, and yes he was slick at 145, but he’s a big 155’er. He manhandled Tony on the ground and slammed him multiple times. I know Tony’s not the best he’s ever been, but that performance was very good. It was truly bizarre to see El Cucuy get ragdolled like that, and I hope to see him back against some lower ranked guys.

Only time will tell actually.

The problem is when you look at his losses. I never followed him, but, I remember not being a fan of his. Sort of boring is what I remember. I have to look at his fights, maybe it was just one fight in my head.

I was impressed though. Hopefully he keeps moving forward.

 

[Pierced7681]

I still remember when Jim Miller broke his knee. Epic sub.

 

[mxer31]

I never thought of him as a quitter like the rest of sherdog. He just got hit really hard. He has taken power shots and still ploughs ahead. It's those that hit him right on the button that makes people question his heart.

he had very little heart early on in the ufc...

 

[DOMMA]

Keep in mind that Oliveira was only 22 when he fought Cub.

 

[cshireman4]

He was 23 years old when he fought Cub for fuck sakes. Is it really that astonishing that a guy can improve over an 8 year stretch? Was the 7-fight win streak he was on going into the fight with Ferguson any indication that he isn't the can sherdog portrayed him to be?

 

[MCS]

I just worry they'll rather give Chandler or someone else the next shot since Charles doesn't speak English. It is sometimes the case. He should get it now. Do Bronx vs Khabib or any top LW is a great fight. Exciting and skilled.

 

[TheOneAboveAll3]

Yeah I never thought much of the guy, thought of him as just a guy who will never be in the top 10 but he has looked good his last few fights and could be LW champ now that Habibi is retired.

 

[1BadMF]

Not me. I was 2-0-1: Oliveira, Cub and a draw with Moreno.

Right before the fight, I thought: "Tony last beat Cerrone and looked
good but got pieced up by Justin." I have thought Da Bronx was very
underrated so I took a shot and put the bet in.

Where does his nickname come from? I lived in The Bronx for a few years.

 

[Memeojima]

He grew a pair but some of his past performances were just embarrassing. Definitely in his prime now

 

[2004 account]

I find it honorable whenever someone admits to being wrong


The truth is do Bronx just leveled up. While it's true that early on he would opt for the easy way out (and mentally check out when he knew he was bested) when things weren't going his way, he learned from those lessons and fixed some of those holes which in turn has given him the confidence enough to get in there with a beast like Tony and show the world his evolved confidence that comes from his improved skillset.

We subconsciously do it at the academy as well, we tap out, we learn the sub defense and we then successfully get out of that sub in the future and go on to sub them.

This is evolution. Do Bronx leveled up. He is a new fighter that was able to improve. Compare him to someone like vitor who I consider never learned how to get out of a mount, or Anthony rumble who never learned how to defend a rnc. They didn't level up in that aspect and to this day choose to tap than take career ending damage.

Do Bronx is showing a champions mentality. That's why he is gaining new fans.

 

[G10]

I've always thought that the idea of Oliveira being a quitter came less from reality and more as a consequence of the UFC's match-making with him over the years.

Look at his early fights in the UFC. They VERY quickly started throwing him to the wolves. Yeah, you could look at some of his fights and see that maybe he mentally beaten, but the guy fought prime versions of Miller, Cerrone, and Edgar very early in his UFC career. If anything, Oliveira deserves more credit for lasting so long and bouncing back after so many setbacks.

I'm not sure if he'll be able to be champ, but I hope he does. It would be a Bisping-esque journey for him, to be sure.

 

[15089371]

I do still wonder if he can mentally go through a 5 war round if needs to be. But the dude is so skilled on the feet and ground now, he will rarely need to do that probably.

 

[Sticko]

I don't know how badly hurt Oliveira was against Swanson or Felder. But it's possible that he lengthened his career by avoiding unnecessary damage in those fights.

 

[D'z]

It's so rare that you see sherdoggers admit they are wrong. Commendable, have a like!