HTPC (Home Theater PC) in 2017: Your Menu of Streaming Entertainment Products

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*Skip to post #3 if you want a more consumer-friendly guide to your current options. This post is meant to be comprehensive*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_digital_media_players
Wikipedia Comparison of Digital Media Players
Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated February 2017)
Slate Cord Cutting Calculator (is Cutting Cable Cheaper for You?)
8 Things I Wish I Knew Before Building My First HTPC


HTPCs (Ready-to-Go Streaming Media Players)



Android TV
Operating System: Android TV (GUI-optimized Android version for Media Browsing)

Chinese Pre-Loaded “Piracy” Boxes*
Note: Like many other products on the market, simply because these come configured with the potential for piracy doesn't mean they will be used for that, but please refrain from discussing the precise methods for piracy in this thread. I include these because they offer the best hardware bang-for-your-buck on the market that also aren't on restrictive operating systems.

These are glorified Raspberry Pi's. The great difference is that these usually come with custom firmware (sometimes with root access) and Kodi/XBMC pre-loaded with a pre-configuration of add-on "channels" and settings. They tend to come with 8GB-16GB of onboard storage with 1GB-2GB of RAM. Most are encased in a boxed chassis, and accessories often include a manual, a power cable, HDMI cable, and a remote. The more expensive models often include additional USB ports & other inputs. Users also often purchase cheap $13-$25 mini wireless keyboards to help utilize these devices.

These are all rebranded Chinese-manufactured products. Only the MINIX Neo, Matricom G Box and Skystream One carry enduring brand power on the market, and appear to attempt to provide ongoing firmware support. NEXbox appears to have the ambition to add their name to this shortlist.

The Amlogic S905X and S905 chips are the most desired for running Android-based Kodi boxes even though they are not the most powerful Amlogic chipset. The newest S912 chipsets and beyond have been dropped by Kodi for official Android support (though Linux will still be supported for these chipsets, but the below products are equipped with Android eMMC modules, so understand they cannot be made to natively boot into a Linux environment). On a related note, the Kodi team also is no longer supporting Rockchip on the Android side which means you can expect an increasingly unstable experience on Amazon Fire TV and Fire Sticks if you aren’t using the Amazon-approved “MrMC” fork of Kodi. You should be aware the Kodi development team is working hard to cripple this grey market and distance themselves from streaming piracy.

Amlogic: S912 > S905X > S905 > S812 > S802 > S805
Rockchip: RK3368 > RK3288 > RK3188 > RK3168

  • $37 = [Amlogic S905X] NEXbox A95X, Android 6.0 TV w/Remote
    • +$18 = Rii i8 Bluetooth Mini Keyboard (#1 Amazon bestseller)
    • +$22 = Rii i8 Bluetooth Mini Keyboard 2017 (adds backlighting)
  • $100 = [Amlogic S812] Matricom G Box Q2, Android 5.1
  • $120 = [Amlogic S905] MINIX NEO U1, Android 5.1
    • or $130 for I8 Remote bundle
    • or $135 for A2 Lite Mouse bundle
  • $150 = [Amlogic S905] Skystream One, Android 5.1
NVIDIA Shield TV 2017
  • $200 = 16GB Shield TV + 2017 Shield Controller (Voice-Enabled) + Remote
  • $300 = 500GB Shield Pro + 2017 Shield Controller (Voice-Enabled) + Remote

Amazon Fire TV
Operating System: Fire OS (proprietary Android fork OS)
2nd Gen
  • $40 = Fire TV Stick + Alexa Remote
  • $90 = Fire TV + Alexa Remote
  • $130 = Fire TV + Fire Controller (Voice-Enabled) + 32GB MicroSD Card + 2 Games

Apple TV
Operating System: tvOS (iOS-based)
4th Gen
  • $141 (32GB)
  • $169 (64GB)

Google Chromebox

Operating System: ChromeOS (Linux-based)
  • Asus Chromebit Chromestick
    • $83 = CS10 Chromestick (Rockchip 3368 + 2GB RAM +16GB eMMC)
    • $111 = CS10 Chromestick + Logitech K400 Bluetooth Keyboard
  • Asus Chromebox
    • $155 = Normal (Intel Celeron 2955U + 2GB RAM + 16GB SSD)
    • $199 = Deluxe (Intel Celeron 2955U + 4GB RAM + 16GB SSD)
      • (Peripheral) $53 = Asus Chrome Wireless Keyboard + Mouse
  • Acer Chromebox [includes Keyboard & Mouse]
    • $147 = CXI2-2GKM (Intel Celeron 3205U + 2GB RAM + 16GB SSD)
    • $198 = CXI2-4GKM (Intel Celeron 3205U + 4GB RAM + 16GB SSD)
    • $404 = CXI2-i38GKM (Intel i3-5005U + 8GB RAM + 16GB SSD)
  • Lenovo Thinkcentre Chromebox (10H50003US)
    • $230 = Intel Celeron 3205U + 4GB RAM + 16GB SSD

Roku

Operating System: Roku OS (Linux-based)
  • $30 = Roku Express (3700)
  • $35 = Roku Express+ (3710)
  • $40 = Roku Streaming Stick (3600R)
  • $70 = Roku Premiere (4620)
  • $90 = Roku Premiere+ (4630)
  • $118 = Roku Ultra (4640)

TiVO
Operating System: Linux
TiVo Mini
  • $150 = TiVO Mini w/RF Remote
TiVo Series 6 (Bolt)
  • $190 = White Bolt 500GB, 2-Tuner (TCD849500)
  • $250 = White Bolt 1TB, 4-Tuner (TCD849000)
  • $500 = Black Bolt+ 3TB, 6-Tuner (TCD849300)

WeTek

Operating System: Dual boot > Android / Linux (LibreELEC)
  • $90 = WeTek Hub
  • $110 = WeTek Play 2
    • +$10 to add one of the following tuner options:
      • DVB-S2 (Satellite)
      • DVB-C/T/T2 (Cable)
      • ATSC (Over-the-Air)
  • $130 = WeTek Core

Gaming Consoles

9th Gen
Nintendo Switch (coming March 2017)

8th Gen & 8th Gen (Refresh)

Microsoft Xbox One S
  • $250 = Xbox One S 500GB (various bundles)
  • $300 = Xbox One S 1TB (various bundles)
Sony Playstation 4
  • $250 = PS4 Slim (Uncharted 4 500GB Bundle)
Sony Playstation 4 Pro
  • $400 = 1TB Console Bundle
Nintendo Wii U
  • $300 = 32GB Deluxe Set w/Mario Kart 8
7th Gen

Microsoft Xbox 360
  • $142 = 4GB (Peggle 2 bundle)
  • $250 = 500GB (Call of Duty bundle)
Sony Playstation 3
  • $170 = 12GB
  • $190 = 500GB


Mirroring Devices
    • $42 = Sony Playstation TV (to mirror PS4 streaming to other TV’s in the house)
    • $50 = Valve Steam Link (only for mirroring Steam to TV from Desktop PC)
  • Google Chromecast (to mirror your PC/Laptop or Chromebook web browser to your TV)
    • $35 = Google Chromecast (2nd Gen)
    • $70 = Google Chromecast Ultra 4K

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HTPCs (Require User Software Calibration)


Apple Mac Mini
Operating System: MacOS

Mac Mini 7 (2014)
  • $499 = Mac Mini (MGEM2)
    • i5-4260U + 4GB RAM + 500GB HDD
  • $629 = Mac Mini (MGEN2)
    • i5-4278U + 8GB RAM + 1TB HDD
  • $899 = Mac Mini (MGEQ2)
    • i5-4308U + 8GB RAM + 1TB SSHD

Mini PCs & WinSticks

Operating System: Windows 10

Intel Compute Sticks
  • $131 = Intel CS125 Compute Stick
    • Intel Atom x5-Z8300 + 2GB RAM + 32GB eMMC + Intel Wireless AC-7265 + 2xUSB Ports
  • $350 = Intel CS325 Compute Stick
    • Intel Core m3-6Y30 + 4GB RAM + 64GB eMMC + Intel Wireless AC-8260 + 3xUSB Ports
  • $485 = Intel CS525 Compute Stick
    • Intel Core m5-6Y57 + 4GB RAM + 64GB eMMC + Intel Wireless AC-8260 + 3xUSB Ports
MINIX NEO
  • $140 = MINIX NEO Z4 Windows 8.1 Edition
    • Intel Atom Z3735F + 2GB RAM + 32GB eMMC + WiFi-n
  • $170 = Minix NEO Z83-4 Fanless Mini PC
    • Intel Atom X5-Z8300 + 4GB RAM + 32GB eMMC + WiFi-ac

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HTPCs (Require User Hardware Self-Assembly)


DIY ARM-based Motherboard Kits
Operating System: User Choice (Options May Be Limited Per Device Hardware Environment)
*Note* Linux-based LibreELEC preferred to Android for pure Kodi boxes

Raspberry Pi 3
  • $75 Canakit Raspberry Pi 3 Complete Starter Kit1.2GHz Quadcore ARM-53 CPU + 2GB RAM + Onboard 802.11n WiFi & 4.1 Bluetooth
    • Raspberry Pi 3 Model B with On-board WiFi and Bluetooth Connectivity
    • Raspberry Pi Enclosure Case (Black)
    • 32GB Samsung Evo Plus (Class 10) Micro Sd Card Preloaded with NOOBS
    • USB MicroSD Card Reader
    • 2.5A Micro USB Power Supply -- 5-Feet Long
    • Premium Quality HDMI Cable CEC Enabled
    • Heatsink for Raspberry Pi - Set of 2
ODROID-C2

Semi-Custom “Barebones” PC Kits

Operating System: User Choice (Windows/Linux/SteamOS/Hackintosh)

Intel NUC Kits
Add RAM/Storage/OS
  • $125 = Intel NUC Kit NUC5CPYH (Intel Celeron N3050)
  • $295 = Intel NUC Kit NUC7i3BNH (i3-7100U)
  • $367 = Intel NUC Kit NUC6i5SYH (i5-6260U)
  • $525 = Intel NUC Kit NUC6i7KYK (i7-6770HQ) “Skull Canyon”

Asus VivoMini

Add RAM/Storage/OS
  • $410 = VC65R (Intel i5-6400T + RAID)
  • $461 = UN65H (Intel i7-6500U + m.2 support)

Corsair BULLDOG
  • $400 = BULLDOG Combo
    • BULLDOG Mini-ITX Custom Enclosure (includes 2 Case Fans)
    • H5 Custom Small Form Factor Liquid CPU Cooler
    • Gigabyte Z170N-WiFi Mini ITX Motherboard
    • Corsair SF600 SFX 600W Gold Power Supply Unit
  • Purchase & Install Separately
    • Intel LGA 1151 CPU
    • GPU w/built-in Watercooling (max 300m length)
      • Recommended: GTX 1080*, GTX 1070*, R9 Fury X, R9 Fury*
        EVGA, MSI, and Gigabyte make watercooled versions of the GTX 1080*EVGA makes a watercooled version of the GTX 1070
        • Alternative: $50 Corsair HG10 A1 Mounting Bracket + Corsair 120mm Liquid CPU Cooler + Air-Cooled AMD R9 290X / 290
        • Alternative: $38 Corsair AG10 N980 Mounting Bracket + Corsair 120mm Liquid CPU Cooler + Air-Cooled NVIDIA GTX Titan / 980 Ti / 980
        • Alternative: $105 Corsair Waterblock for Air-Cooled GTX 1080/1070
    • 2xDDR4 288-Pin RAM sticks (low profile preferred)
    • m.2, 2.5” SSD, and/or 3.5” HDD drive
    • Operating System

Gigabyte BRIX

Add RAM/Storage/OS

BRIX
  • GB-BPCE-3350C / GB-BPCE-3350 (Intel Celeron N3350)
  • GB-BPCE-3455C (Intel Celeron J3455)
  • GB-BKi3A-7100 (Intel i3-7100U)
  • GB-BKi5A-7200 / GB-BKi5T-7200 (Intel i5-7200U)
  • GB-BKi7A-7200 / GB-BKi7T-7200 (Intel i7-7500U)
BRIX S
  • GB-BPCE-3455 (Intel Celeron J3455)
  • GB-BKi3HA-7100 (Intel i3-7100U)
  • GB-BKi5HA-7200 / GB-BKi5HT-7200 (Intel i5-7200U)
  • GB-BKi5HA-7200 / GB-BKi7HT-7200 (Intel i7-7500U)

MSI Cubi
Add RAM/Storage/OS

Cubi
  • $150 = Cubi N-010BUS (Intel Celeron N3160)
  • $166 = Cubi-003BUS (Intel Celeron 3205U)
  • $180 = Cubi-002BUS (Intel Pentium 3805U)
  • $240 = Cubi-062BUS (Intel i3-5005U)
  • $265 = Cubi-001BUS (Intel i3-5005U)
  • $280 = Cubi-061BUS (Intel i5-5200U)
  • $450 = Cubi-028BUS (Intel i7-5500U)
Cubi 2
  • $295 = Cubi2-007BUS (Intel i3-7100U)
  • $375 = Cubi2-006BUS (Intel i5-7200U)
  • $500 = Cubi2-005BUS (Intel i7-7500U)

Zotac Zbox

Add RAM/Storage/OS
  • $1200 = Zbox Magnus EN1070
  • $2000 = Zbox Magnus EN1080-U (10-Year Anniversary Edition)


Custom HTPCs
Operating System: User Choice (Windows/Linux/SteamOS/Hackintosh)

Tech Buyer’s Guru Self-Builder MicroATX HTPC Blueprint
  • CPU: i3-7100 Kaby Lake 3.9GHz Dual Core
    >65W TDP desired for silence; Kaby Lake locked i7’s meet this, but are overkill for a non-gaming HTPC
  • GPU: None (onboard Intel HD 620 iGPU)
    • (Optional) Half-Size GPU: Gigabyte GTX 750 Ti 2GB (GV-N75TOC-2GL)
    • (Optional) Full-Size GPU: Zotac Mini GTX 1050 Ti 4GB (Zotac ZT-P10510A-10L)
  • MoBo: ASRock H170M Pro4 MicroATX
  • RAM: 2x4GB DDR4 288-Pin RAM
  • OS Drive: Crucial MX300 525GB m.2-2280 SSD
    • (Optional) Media Drive: 2TB-8TB 3.5” 5400RPM-5900RPM
  • Optical Drive: LG 24X DVD-Burner (GH24NSCOB)
    • (Upgrade) LG 14X BD Rewriter (LG WH14NS40)
  • PSU: Seasonic SSR-550RM Gold Semi-Modular
    • (Upgrade) Fanless PSU: Seasonic Platinum SS-400FL2/SS-460FL2/SS-520FL2
  • WiFi Card: TP-Link N300 Wireless PCIe 300Mbps w/2xAntennae
  • Case:
    • Silverstone ML03B Slim MicroATX HTPC Chassis (no GPU or half-height GPU)
    • Silverstone GD09B MicroATX HTPC Chassis (full-size GPU)
  • OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit
  • Total = $617 Regular Slim
    • = $860 Deluxe Slim
      • ML03B Case w/half-height GTX 750 Ti + HDD + Blu-Ray & WiFi upgrades
    • = $810 Deluxe
      • GD09B w/full-height GTX 1050 Ti + Blu-Ray & WiFi upgrades

Popular Peripherals
  • MicroSD Card:
    • $10 for 32GB
    • $20 for 64GB
    • $40 for 128GB
    • $64 for 200GB
    • $90 for 256GB
    • $200 for 512GB
  • AmazonBasics HDMI Cable:
    • $6 for 3ft
    • $7 for 6ft
    • $9 for 10ft
    • $11 for 15ft
    • $13 for 25ft
  • Wireless/Bluetooth Keyboard:
    • $22 Rii i8 (Updated 2016) 2.4GHz Backlit Wireless USB/Bluetooth Mini Kodi Keyboard w/Touchpad Mouse
    • $18 Rii 2.4GHz Wireless Bluetooth Mini Kodi Keyboard w/Touchpad Mouse
  • Gaming Controller:
    • $50 Microsoft Xbox One Controller
    • $25 Microsoft Xbox 360 Controller (Wireless Version)
    • $50 Playstation Dualshock 4 Controller
    • $50 NVIDIA Shield Controller
    • $40 Moga Power Pro Controller (for Android)
The non-Windows DIY setups here are intended to be ran with the latest barebones version of LibreELEC and/or Android (rooted) for which stable Kodi firmware exists, and with Kodi installed and set up. For this reason hardware designed with a Linux boot environment are preferred including Chromeboxes and Chromebooks on Google’s Linux-based ChromeOS. Both Kodi and the Kore app can be downloaded to one’s Android smartphone. Kore is the app Kodi uses to turn a smartphone into a remote control for the media server. Thus, you can use your smartphone for voice commands, and the wireless keyboard for everything else.


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Smart TVs
Some have baked in the operating systems developed by the above products, such as Roku, but lately television manufactures have made a point of trying to exploit their position as hardware salesmen to push their particular software & app ecosystems for these TV's.

Blu-Ray Players
Similarly, many of the (incidentally same) manufacturers of Blu-Ray players, such as Sony & Samsung, have tried baking apps and other software into their hardware since it is certainly capable of running it. As with Smart TVs above, these compete with these other streaming media devices, but due to their nature they form an entirely different market need that doesn't necessarily suit the typical consumer looking into purchasing something to expand their general entertainment options.

Tablets & Smartphones
Most tablets and smartphones can function like these devices. The reason most don't care to use them this way is because people want the entertainment center's functionality to remain intact at all times, so the irritating part is that you can’t have your phone in your hands if it’s running entertainment for the room via a physical connection to the TV. Furthermore, these devices' graphical user interfaces aren't optimized to function in this capacity. For example, the iPhones/iPads run on a different operating system than tvOS altogether (though tvOS is heavily based on iOS). Android is compatible with and comparable to the Android TV operating system, but a typical smartphone GUI isn't conducive to being navigated remotely as with a remote control, for example.

In 2017, it makes more sense to use smartphones as the ultimate “smart” remote control themselves for these other HTPC systems, since the screen is a built-in trackpad. Alternatively, one is more likely to use them as the back-end casting device that transmits your personal media stored on the phone wirelessly over the router to a receiving device: either a Smart TV or one of the many products mentioned above that is itself connected to a TV.

Network-Attached Digital TV Tuners
These are not to be confused as an HTPC because they are designed to function only as the back-end of a media server: by streaming wirelessly over a local network to some other HTPC listed here that is physically connected to the TV. On the other hand, unlike the rest of the HTPC’s listed above, with the exception of the WeTek devices, this product is designed for compatibility with cable tuner cards, so you can use them (rather than paying usurous rental fees on traditional set-top boxes) to view your traditional cable television-- presuming you have a cable subscription. Until SlingTV builds a larger library of channel services this will be one of the only alternatives to traditional set-top boxes that fully replicates that entertainment ecosystem, but also has some other HTPC-like capabilities. The most popular product of this type on the market are the HDHomeRun devices by Silicon Dust:

Silicon Dust
*Compatible with various operating systems & media server software
*Also can accommodate OTA/Cable TV
  • $105 = HDHomeRun Connect (2-tuner)
  • $100 = HDHomeRun Prime (3-tuner)
  • $140 = HDHomeRun Extend (2-tuner)

Other (Defunct) Devices
Operating System: various (including Android TV & Google TV)
None of these are recommended. Be warned that some of the below appear to have failed and fallen out of production. Others like the Slingbox are for a different market of users who want to be able to watch their cable on the go, or like HDHomeRun through a cable card which has much cheaper rental fees (virtually nothing), but have failed because all hardware can run their core software, and their own hardware firmware has become infested with ad-spamming. Rabbit TV & Mediasonic both sell devices that deliver content that was free in the first place, and the latter is a functional DVR on top of that. Meanwhile, Vizio Co-Star and Boxee Box, with distinct operating systems, appear to have failed outright. Nyrius and WD TV have also died.
  • Asus Cube (failed Google TV platform)
  • Boxee Box
  • Hisense Pulse (failed Google TV platform)
  • Mediasonic (OTA DVR)
  • Netgear NeoTV
  • Nyrius
  • Rabbit TV (USB stick receives OTA channels, ex. ABC, FOX, etc)
  • SlingTV Slingbox (for cable subscribers)
  • Vizio Co-Star
  • WD TV
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SlingTV, below, is software, not hardware. It aims to legally replicate Cable and Premium television with more refined packages not fattened with content the buyer is unlikely to consume. To my knowledge it is already compatible with every single operating system and device listed above.
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SlingTV

 
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All I need is uTorrent, a 52 inch TV, an external hardrive to put into that TV and an internet connection.

Sorted.
 
Mick's Guide:
Best Cordcutting HTPC & Streaming Media Player Purchases

Key:
  • {xx} Curly Brackets = Geekbench 3 CPU Multicore Strength as a single number
  • Storage speed rankings:
    SSD >>> eMMC > SD Card > HDD
  • RAM speed rankings:
    DDR4 > DDR3 >> LPDDR3 > LPDDR2
Keep in mind that the Abox Android TV, Mini PC, Chromebox, Xbox One, and NUC Kits all have full-sized USB ports that can accomodate thumb drives and external storage directly (or can even be used for the convenience of charging a phone). I avoided discussion of peripherals below to minimize clutter.
Even if you aren't a cordcutter the below devices will sometimes also support your DirecTV or Cable subscriptions with an app. DishTV has a lagging app availability across these devices.
Also note that the products below that come without a remote/controller (Mini PC, Chromebox, NUC Kit) are not “plug and play” devices that will have a media server up and running out of the box. They will require more user-end calibration.



Amazon Fire TV

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($40) Amazon Fire TV Stick

  • {1.2} Mediatek 8127D
  • 8GB SD Card
  • 1GB RAM LPDDR2
  • Alexa Voice Remote Controller
($90) Amazon Fire TV
  • {3.5} Mediatek 8173C
  • 8GB SD Card
  • 2GB RAM LPDDR2
  • Alexa Voice Remote Controller


ABOX Android TV
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($70) ABOX A2 Android 6.0 TV Box

  • {2.2} Amlogic S905X
  • 16GB eMMC
  • 2GB RAM LPDDR3
  • Rii i8 Wireless Bluetooth Mini Keyboard
  • Standard Remote Controller
Notes:
  • Understand that you don't necessarily have to purchase this specific Android box, but the key specifications you're after are an Amlogic S905X processor;16GB or more storage; 2GB or more RAM; Android 5.1 or later; preferably with Kodi pre-loaded (Jarvis version or later). The value without the keyboard is approximately $50.
  • The bundled Rii i8 is the #1 bestselling bluetooth keyboard on Amazon, and is worth $18 when purchased by itself. Be aware that the new 2017 $22 i8+ model is backlit if you are purchasing separately. You'll definitely want that.
  • According to supermoderator "wrxtazy" at the Official Kodi forums the newer Amlogic S912 chipset and beyond have been dropped by Kodi for official Android support; of course this contradicts the Official Android Kodi Wiki that lists the Amlogic S912 as being supported. I'll trust the Supermod. For now, assume that the S905X in this ABOX A2 remains the best of these Android TV chipsets for those wanting to run Kodi with as few hiccups as possible.
  • Android firmware updates may break Kodi compatibility, temporarily, so it’s wise to turn off automatic updates to firmware in the general settings unless you want it to one day suddenly stop working. You'll realize a failure to do this results in many of the bad reviews if you read through them. Android 6.0 will be relevant for many years (it still hasn't even overtaken Lollipop as the dominant Android version). Don't expect OTA firmware update support from ABOX, obviously, but also understand that turning off updates to Android doesn't entail turning off updates to Kodi or your apps. Those can still update as normal.
    • Consider the $150 Skystream One if you're willing to pay more for company-side updates & firmware support.
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  • Personally, I think the 16GB upgrade to storage (vs. 8GB in the Amazon Fire Stick) is the most crucial upgrade if you intend to run a Kodi Media server. The lack of cache space from the lack of storage causes it to run painfully slow or unstably unless you gut your add-ons. I rate this the cheapest viable Kodi device on the market right now. For $70 you get 2x the processor strength, 2x the (faster) storage, 2x the (faster) RAM, the additional ports for potential peripherals like external hard drives with media libraries, and the inclusion of the bluetooth mini keyboard to make up for the lack of voice control on the remote. You also won't find yourself fighting Google the way you'll find yourself fighting Amazon on its FireOS.
  • This particular seller, Globmall US, has a 99% positive rating with 372 sales in the past 12 months. There are others vendors selling the same unit with similar reputations and even greater volume (ex. wosung, GooBang Doo). The Chinese manufacturers of all the Android TV’s on the market don’t discriminate with regard to distributor or branding of their products, but it’s a reliable network so long as you avoid sellers who are shucking refurbs. That responsibility falls to your vigilance.



Roku
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($50) Roku Streaming Stick 3600R

($92) Roku Premiere+ 4630
  • Roku doesn’t publish specs, so I can’t compare hardware to the other devices here. You can review their comparison chart for all of their products’ capabilities below. Roku has been the most favorably reviewed and most dominant product on the HTPC market since it appeared. It has the deepest app library, and its closed operating system is built on Linux, so it tends to play nice with all other devices. There are five products in its current lineup, but the sweet spot for nearly everyone will be one of the above two.
  • Roku Product Comparison Chart


Mini PC
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($110) Beelink Z83-II Mini PC (w/Windows 10 Pre-Installed)
  • {2.2} Intel Atom x5-Z8350
  • 32GB eMMC (128GB Expandable SD Slot)
  • 2GB RAM DDR3
  • No remote or keyboard included
    • Note: a smartphone can be used for this, and it’s compatible with all wireless keyboards (WiFi and Bluetooth)
Capable of installing & booting into Linux, and also of running the optimal LibreELEC fork developed specifically to power a Kodi media server. You can install these if you prefer once you’ve attached a wired keyboard.



Apple TV
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($147) Apple TV (4th Gen) 32GB
($170) Apple TV (4th Gen) 64GB

  • {3.0} Apple A8
  • 32GB or
    64GB
  • 2GB RAM LPDDR3
  • Siri Voice Remote (<-- so much better than all the others it’s stupid)
If you aren't planning on running a Kodi media server, then this or the Roku Ultra are the best pure streaming entertainment hubs, and they all are perfectly compatible with the market-leading Plex Media Server as an alternative to Kodi. The Roamio will suit those who want the DVR recording function, and the Xbox One will be preferred by those who don't mind paying ~$100 extra for the added gaming + web-browsing capability and Blu-Ray optical drive.
The Display Mirroring for iPhone and iPad users, in particular, is a second to none. It's utterly seamless (assuming your router is sufficient to express this capability; Apple's own $93 Airport Express, $184 Airport Extreme and $389 Time Capsule 3TB are all ideally suited for this networking job).




Kodi Chromebox
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($160) Asus Chromebox-M004U

($200) Asus Chromebox-M004U Deluxe
  • {2.7} Intel Celeron 2955U
  • 16GB SSD
  • 2GB RAM DDR3 or
    4GB RAM DDR3 (Deluxe)
  • No remote or keyboard included
    • Note: a smartphone can be used for this, but it is recommended to use a standard wireless KB+M to operate. Those can be had very cheaply, but know that there is a wireless keyboard + mouse specifically designed for it:
      ($53) Asus Chrome Wireless Keyboard & Mouse
Note: this Asus is the #1 best, most stable, bulletproof Kodi device in existence; even among all devices that can run Kodi without sideloading and that are also capable of operating on Linux & LibreELEC. A screwdriver is required to remove a screw that disallows writing to the drive. This is necessary in order to install software (i.e. LibreELEC & Kodi).



Microsoft Xbox One S

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($260) Xbox One S, Battlefield 1 bundle

This is the newer and more powerful version of the Xbox One, and shouldn’t be ignored at the highest end. The PS4 and Xbox One already made Blu-Ray players obsolete. Now, the sheer hardware value alone is incredible, and smashes everything else on this list or the market. The only downside is that they’re locked down even tighter than Apple devices, but as luck would have it you can sideload Kodi using a Fire TV stick-- of all things. The Xbox One’s HTPC functionality and app library is vastly superior to Sony’s, and the Xbox One S is the only console capable of 4K playback, so it’s the best HTPC among all gaming consoles. It also has the best voice operation if you buy/use a chat headset or mic separately.



TiVo
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($370) TiVo Roamio OTA

  • ?? = CPU/RAM
  • 1TB HDD
  • 4-Tuner DVR for Recording TV Shows
  • No TiVo service fee required: lifetime service included
  • TiVo Remote
Please note that that this TiVo unit only supports HDTV, not Cable or Satellite. The market appeal of this model over the Bolts is that lifetime TiVo service is included, so it’s a one-time cost, not a subscription. TiVo utilizes the Opera TV App Store for its web apps.



Intel NUC Kit
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($255) Intel NUC 5PGYH (w/Windows 10 Pre-Installed)

  • {3.3} Intel Celeron N3700 (5PGYH)
  • 32GB SSD
  • 2GB RAM DDR3
($365)* Intel NUC 6i3SYH
($430)* Intel NUC 6i5SYH, Tall
($710)* Intel NUC 6i7KYK “Skull Canyon”
  • {5.7} Intel i3-6100U (6i3SYH)
    {6.6} Intel i5-6260U (6i5SYH)
    {14.0} Intel i7-6700HQ (6i7KYK)
  • 240GB SSD ($75)
  • 8GB RAM DDR4 ($55)
  • No remote or keyboard is included with any NUC Kit
    • Note: a smartphone can be used for this, and it’s compatible with all wireless keyboards (WiFi and Bluetooth)
*These figures are the totals including the NUC Kit + $55 RAM + $75 SSD (the latter two must be purchased and installed by the buyer, separately, along with an OS, and these were the lowest prices I saw on the market for a 240GB SSD & 2x4GB DDR4 RAM sticks when I created this post).
-- The tall or full-sized NUC Kits can hold traditional 2.5" SSD's, and those go up to 4TB. The Skull Canyon is quite short, so it only supports m.2 or PCIe SSD's, and the largest of these are 2TB. m2 SSD's are rapidly crashing in price, but they still come at a premium.
-- 2x16GB RAM DDR4 sticks are the max memory you can run in the Skull Canyon.
No OS cost has been included. Add Windows, and this is just a PC. Windows 10 Home 64-Bit is $93, assuming you don’t already have a license, or if you wish to install the special LibreELEC fork of Linux for running Kodi, then that’s free-- so are the fully operational most popular flavors of Linux: Ubuntu and Mint. These are acceptable substitutes to Windows if that's what you want.
So you know, as with the rest of these devices, WiFi capability is built in. If you want to run a truly serious, massive media library with on-the-fly transcoding, and you don't have a PC already running the back-end of this media server, then the unique i7 “Skull Canyon” NUC model pictured above is the one you’re after. Otherwise, it's a bit overkill for the front-end (i.e. the thing that actually plugs into the TV) which is the niche that all of the above devices really serve. It's almost certainly far more powerful than your current laptop or PC.
Special Note: The 7th generation processor line of Intel NUCs debuted in January




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All of the above products can run Kodi except for the Roku & TiVo, but only the Chromebox, Mini PC & Intel NUC Kits can run it on its most stable platform (the “LibreELEC” operating system; a freely distributed Linux fork OS developed specifically to power a Kodi media server).
Quick Kodi Compatibility Reference
Optimal > Stable > Unstable > Unsupported
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#This will change. It was announced February 13th, 2017, that Kodi will officially be coming to the Xbox One. However, it isn’t clear if it will be a fork of Kodi that doesn’t allow the the full range of add-ons (ex. “MrMC” is the Kodi fork for Amazon Fire Sticks that can be downloaded from the official store that would score optimal compatibility if shown above, but won't install certain add-ons).
^The Intel NUC Unit with Windows 10 & the Storage/RAM included (NUC 5PGYH) can install Kodi without the need of any additional tech unlike the rest of the NUC Kits above. It has the same environment as the Mini PC.

- Sideloading of Kodi on an Apple TV (4th Gen) is possible using a device that runs MacOS or Windows 7+, a USB-C cable, and a free Apple Developer account. However, apparently Kodi will be uninstalled every week unless you have a premium developer account, so there's a built-in subscription cost there, and apparently Kodi is still very much in the Alpha phase for the Apple TV. Official Wiki Instructions. Alternative Guide #1.
- Sideloading of Kodi right now on a Microsoft Xbox One is apparently possible using an Amazon Fire Stick. This is pure Kodi, not a nerfed version like "MrMc". Instructions here.
- The only “tech” required to install Kodi on a Chromebox is a screwdriver to unscrew a physical screw that must be removed from the motherboard to strip write protection. The ability to write to the drive is essential for software installation. This built-in governor is how ChromeOS prevents you (or malicious hackers) from installing anything beyond the browser by default. This added layer of security is an attractive feature, but must be sacrificed in order to run a Kodi server, and it's not like this makes it any less secure than any other computer lacking a physical built-in hardware governor (this is the norm). Official Wiki Instructions. Alternative Guide #1. Alternative Guide #2.
 
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Thought the forum might appreciate the above more consumer-friendly post to expand on the OP.

*Edit* Please be aware, if you're not a platinum member, that all the hyperlinking you see in my above post isn't ads (or isn't just ads). The above is loaded with links to products and resources of intellectual property. Don't be afraid to click and follow. I did this for the forum's convenience.
 
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Huge announcement in the cord-cutting world:
YouTube unveils live TV service for cord cutters
Reuters said:
Alphabet Inc's (GOOGL.O) YouTube will launch a live TV service featuring U.S. broadcast networks and cable channels to attract young fans of online videos to a pay television package, YouTube executives said on Tuesday.

The new offering, called YouTube TV, will compete with other services fighting to attract mobile-loving younger audiences who dropped pricier, traditional cable and satellite packages or never signed up in the first place.

YouTube TV will be delivered over the internet and debut in the coming months at a cost of $35 a month for six accounts, YouTube Chief Executive Susan Wojcicki told reporters at an event in Los Angeles.

YouTube TV subscribers will be able to watch original programming that appears on YouTube Red, a subscription service that includes movies and shows starring popular YouTube video creators.

The development of the live TV package is an attempt to sell a new service to viewers hooked on YouTube's free videos.
Reuters said:
YouTube TV will feature Walt Disney Co's (DIS.N) ABC, CBS Corp's (CBS.N) CBS, 21st Century Fox's (FOXA.O) Fox and Comcast Corp's (CMCSA.O) NBC plus cable channels including ESPN, USA and FX. It will launch initially in select U.S. markets.

The offering will compete with services such as Dish Network Corp's (DISH.O) Sling TV, AT&T's (T.N) DirecTV Now and Sony Corp's (6758.T) PlayStation Vue. Those packages sell for roughly $20 to $65 a month. Hulu also is developing a live TV service.
 
I just plug my laptop/portable hard drive into my smart tv with an HDMI cable like a civilized person.
 
If you're just watching tv, GTX 1050 is cheaper than the 1050 Ti and can do 4K video. It's what I, and I think probably a lot of others, use in their tv pcs.
 
Screw streaming boxes. I have my Plex server setup on an i5 NUC with sickbeard and sonarr for automatic downloads and for the 2 other spots I stream in the house I just have regular PC/laptop hooked up to TVs with Plex clients. Why bother getting a limited streaming box if you can get a fully functioning mini PC?
 
Wetek looks like a good device for an all in one Kodi, DVR and IPTV box.
 
$50 = Valve Steam Link (only for mirroring Steam to TV from Desktop PC)
Just as a heads up, I have one, and it mirrrors everything from my pc to the tv.
 
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i'm thinking of putting a media pc together with my old parts. You think it would be good for 4k?
 
I have the roku 4k. Its great for steaming the latest 4k media. It has pretty much all the main cable channels to stream live. Watching things in 4k eats up data like crazy.
 
i'm thinking of putting a media pc together with my old parts. You think it would be good for 4k?
If you have the parts, throw it together and run the jellyfish test.
http://jell.yfish.us/

For a new build, A G4560 is more than powerful with the iGPU for 4k playback. Just make sure to get a dual channel ram kit to give a boost to the iGPU.
 
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If you have the parts, throw it together and run the jellyfish test.
http://jell.yfish.us/

For a new build, A G4560 is more than powerful with the iGPU for 4k playback. Just make sure to get a dual channel ram kit to give a boost to the iGPU.


well id rather use some old parts
 
well id rather use some old parts
If you're not going Skylake, CPU wise a Haswell i3 or later is enough for 4k@60hz. Video card wise you'll need to make sure you have a card with HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 and HEVC built in. The gtx950 and up have those features.
Skylake and newer have HEVC built into the cpu, that's why you can get away with using the iGPU.
If you're not using a cpu or gpu with HEVC built in, you're going to have a bad time relying on software to do it. Even a 4790k using the iGPU would be questionable.
 
If you're not going Skylake, CPU wise a Haswell i3 or later is enough for 4k@60hz. Video card wise you'll need to make sure you have a card with HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 and HEVC built in. The gtx950 and up have those features.
Skylake and newer have HEVC built into the cpu, that's why you can get away with using the iGPU.
If you're not using a cpu or gpu with HEVC built in, you're going to have a bad time relying on software to do it. Even a 4790k using the iGPU would be questionable.


So my FX-8350 is out and maybe my 290x stock card?
 
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