How would some fights be different if they had no rounds or. Name them.

[KillerIsBack V2]

So I was watching Hendo vs Shields last night, and obviously he won alot after the first round and dominated in mount with some sub attempts. HOWEVER, the first round Hendo knocked him down a bunch of times. and stuffed his only take down in the end. 1 more minute on the feet and his soul would have been ripe for the picking ala shang tsung.

If somebody is interested, Firas Zehabi said to rogan that he believes MMA shouldn't have rounds and if they did they should start back in the same position the previous round ended, cause some guys be saved by the bell even if it looks like they aren't setting anything up.

So I guess rounds can "Save you by the bell" in many ways "getting tired out/rope a doped" "getting subbed eventually in long set up" "resting between rounds when wobbled from strikes".

So sherbros. answer the title, I am sure many of you have examples dying to share.

Dis gonna be good.

 

[HHJ]

Well just wanna point out.. if the fighters knew that this was the case,theyd train differently.Obviously this rule favors grapplers much more than strikers,who know cant rely on starting round 2 standing up...what happened to Shields could happen to but i think less so.

It would make strikers have to be alot more evasive,and it would make for alot of non fighting

 

[PurpleStorm]

If they were called 'bounds' rather than 'rounds' fights would be very different. Because the announcers would call them 'bounds.'

j/k

Yeah it's intriguing to think about some of those fights where someone would have won if there were a few more seconds in some round.

Pretty much agree with @HHJ though in that if you change the rules successful fighters will know them. It's pretty funny when someone boasts something like 'you know I'd have punked you if...'

 

[HHJ]

Nogueira would probably be dead

 

[MichaelT]

Pressure fighters like Colby, Tony, max etc would be doing even better than they are now

 

[HHJ]

Pressure fighters like Colby, Tony, max etc would be doing even better than they are now

But how much do they rely on those breaks to regain their strength? Id imagine it makes a huge difference for some.

 

[HHJ]

Also the fighters would not be able to get real advice from their coaches.

 

[Jojomojo]

Ofc grapple heavy fighters would propably be a lot more effective since they have a lot of time to work on the ground and/or try to get a sub.

In general i would say its hard to judge which fights would be different since basically all fights would be a lot different, because fighters would use a completly different game plan to begin with.

 

[UFCFantasyMVP]

Not sure I'm doing this right, but Jiri Prochazka has a (t)ko loss to King Mo at 5:09 in Rizin. That probably embarrasses the crap out of him. And it's pretty unfortunate because it's a loss that A. Should've been in between rounds and B. It's a performance King Mo couldn't repeat. Really interesting stuff that, in all honesty, should've never been.

 

[sampuncher]

Zabit vs Kattar
Andrade vs Rose 2 from memory.

 

[Willek]

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Gatelum vs Weidman, without the end of the round Gastelum wins that fight, Weidman was done and the ref would have stopped it

 

[FIGHTING TALK]

The sport would be better if it was a full 15, 20 or 25 minute fight without breaks.
Still to this day too much of the framework is taken directly from boxing when it doesn’t have to be, its its own sport in its own right it shouldn’t need to borrow from boxing and anything borrowed should be gradually given back.

The cage might need to be bigger though to accommodate strikers. The FN cage would not be a good look in a grappler vs striker affair.

 

[omawho402]

I like the saved by the bell element, adds more excitement IMO. I accept it can work for or against a fighter I want to win

 

[Zarate]

 

[Robbie b]

I’m for anything closer to simulating a real fight. I would love to see a promotion open up with one 15 minute round, knees to grounded opponents allowed, and no fence grabbing rule. Set that up with the old Bellator tournament format and I think you have a fun promotion.

 

[The Barbarian]

Rounds make it more fun imo.

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

What you guys think of this division?

Normal fight:
-10 min first round
-7.5 min second round
____
Main event none title fight:
-15 min first round
-7.5 min second round
____
Title fight:
-15 min first round
-10 min second round
-7.5 min third round

 

[ferrisjso]

Romero v Whitakker, Forrest v Rampage(maybe that one'd be a clusterfuck no matter what).

But reality is a lot of fights would have different results if we change the system and ask them to say who they thought won at the end. Hard to tell which ones. The 10 9 system makes judges show their work and yay nah system is totally different. If someone gives a round to a fighter they clearly lost we know the fight was a robbery. It's why old Pride decisions(beyond the fact a lot of them were probably rigged given who controlled Pride) where the fight was competitive and it's a tough one hold less weight IMO.

Also many fights would be different without fighters knowing you need 2 of 3 or 3 of 5 to win cause it'd inevitably change those fights as fighters decision making is impacted by the score and what they think it is.

10-9's got blindspots if one fighter does the most damage in one round and judges refuse to give more than one 10-8. But all all in all it works pretty well especially for title fights where 5 rounds gives judges more margin for error. 2-1 three rounders where one of the rounds was close are pretty soft wins that takes very little to change.

 

[Uncommon Valor]

Aldo might have finished Mendes in their second fight.