How strict is IBJJF on minimum belt times?

[Dirty Holt]

Say someone registers for the first time as a blue, and they have been that for about 3 years. IBJJF says you must stay at blue for another 2 years minimum from the date you register. How strict are they on this?

The reason I ask is I have been grappling my whole life, on a very elite level (it was my full time job to compete for USA) in wrestling and submission grappling. I do not compete in gi. I have never entered an ibjjf tourney and will for no gi worlds. I train occasionally in the gi, my instructor says I am a purple in the gi or maybe very close. In no gi I can regularly beat many browns/blacks. My question is: If I get rated a blue, am I trapped doing blue for the next 2 years or does the ibjjf really check?

 

[NateTx4112]

Yes. They are strict.

I believe it was Hillary who got promoted too early according to them and had to sit out a few months.

 

[Lutador011]

No, I personaly am not aware of the IBJJF "looking out" for belts and stuff. Also I am not aware of the IBJJF registering any other belt other than black. I don't think winning worlds even disqualifies you from competing at the same belt level

I think the years stated on their site are more general guidelines, also ways for coaches to explain to people why they have to wait for their belt if they are being too pushy.

One of Lloyd Irvine's fighters got promoted from blue straight to brown and there seemed to be no problem

 

[Einarr]

Say someone registers for the first time as a blue, and they have been that for about 3 years. IBJJF says you must stay at blue for another 2 years minimum from the date you register. How strict are they on this?

The reason I ask is I have been grappling my whole life, on a very elite level (it was my full time job to compete for USA) in wrestling and submission grappling. I do not compete in gi. I have never entered an ibjjf tourney and will for no gi worlds. I train occasionally in the gi, my instructor says I am a purple in the gi or maybe very close. In no gi I can regularly beat many browns/blacks. My question is: If I get rated a blue, am I trapped doing blue for the next 2 years or does the ibjjf really check?

Talk to your instructor about it. Tell him of your intention to compete in IBJJF tournaments and that you don't want to be stuck at blue belt for two years. Ask him if he'd be willing to wait a bit longer and promote you straight to purple when the time comes, I'm sure he'll be understanding given your background.

 

[Jonax]

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Paulo Myiao can not compete at the Rio Open. The athlete of Cicero Costha recently fought the CBJJE Worlds as a brown belt. However, according to the records of CBJJ / IBJJF, he had not completed the minimum length of stay in the purple belt (18 months) and therefore can not compete as a brown belt. Likewise, as Myiao has competed in an official event as a brown belt, he can not return to purple belt. Paulo will have to wait two months to return to compete in CBJJ / IBJJF events already as a brown belt.

 

[McBain]

Did you compete in the SD ADCC trials last weekend?

 

[bradlabo]

Are you talking about an IBJJF membership? If you just register for a single tournament at blue it shouldn't be an issue. Just dont a membership.

Unless they have changed that now.

 

[Calibur]

Say someone registers for the first time as a blue, and they have been that for about 3 years. IBJJF says you must stay at blue for another 2 years minimum from the date you register. How strict are they on this?

The reason I ask is I have been grappling my whole life, on a very elite level (it was my full time job to compete for USA) in wrestling and submission grappling. I do not compete in gi. I have never entered an ibjjf tourney and will for no gi worlds. I train occasionally in the gi, my instructor says I am a purple in the gi or maybe very close. In no gi I can regularly beat many browns/blacks. My question is: If I get rated a blue, am I trapped doing blue for the next 2 years or does the ibjjf really check?

Ibjjf Japan (the model and standard the IBJJF wants to set) is strict as fuck!

Satoshi Souza was destroying blacks as a brown belt. When I asked him why he hadn't been promoted he said the federation wouldn't let him.

I've seen a lot of people get their paper work fudged so they can compete at a decent level and when they do it they are super discreet. Apparently it's a big deal.

Honestly, I don't think the BJJ comunity want another BJ Penn situation. No more prodigies.

 

[Gawd]

What about people who compete less regularly? One might for example have been a blue belt for a while but has not competed? Does one then have to wait two years after the first competition?

 

[bradlabo]

What about people who compete less regularly? One might for example have been a blue belt for a while but has not competed? Does one then have to wait two years after the first competition?

no.

He is talking about a membership not just registering

 

[Calibur]

What about people who compete less regularly? One might for example have been a blue belt for a while but has not competed? Does one then have to wait three years after the first competition?

Competition's not really relevant.

In Japan, every resident IBJJF/BJJFJ participant pays for a card. They only get the card if a IBJJF black belt signs for it. So you do your first comp and than a coach signs you into the white belt division. You get promoted and the paper work says when you started and when you got your blue. You get promoted again and the paper work says when you got your blue etc. You don't have to compete at all you just have to verify exactly when you got the belt.

If you want to start at purple belt than you have to get a coach to back date and sign for the imaginary date you got your blue belt. They say you have to pay back all fees you've missed if you get skip a belt but I've never heard of that being enforced. My guess is you can START as any belt color you want as long as a paid up black belt vouches for it, but as soon as you have an official ID the clock is ticking and you can't forge the time because they have a record of how long you've been training now.

Anyhow, that's the way we roll here. I've heard that only black belts need to have ID cards in the US. Enjoy it while it lasts. I think this is a lot of work just to keep out frauds who wouldn't be dumb enough to do a real BJJ comp anyway.

 

[bradlabo]

Competition's not really relevant.

In Japan, every resident IBJJF/BJJFJ participant pays for a card. They only get the card if a IBJJF black belt signs for it. So you do your first comp and than a coach signs you into the white belt division. You get promoted and the paper work says when you started and when you got your blue. You get promoted again and the paper work says when you got your blue etc. You don't have to compete at all you just have to verify exactly when you got the belt.

If you want to start at purple belt than you have to get a coach to back date and sign for the imaginary date you got your blue belt. They say you have to pay back all fees you've missed if you get skip a belt but I've never heard of that being enforced. My guess is you can START as any belt color you want as long as a paid up black belt vouches for it, but as soon as you have an official ID the clock is ticking and you can't forge the time because they have a record of how long you've been training now.

Anyhow, that's the way we roll here. I've heard that only black belts need to have ID cards in the US. Enjoy it while it lasts. I think this is a lot of work just to keep out frauds who wouldn't be dumb enough to do a real BJJ comp anyway.

Yeah, aparently everyone is going to need a card here soon.

 

[Dirty Holt]

Did you compete in the SD ADCC trials last weekend?

No. I was waiting to know if I was going to IBJJF worlds or if I would be selected by USA to go to FILA grappling worlds. The time conflicts would have screwed my training. I was the alternate for no-gi and picked to go for gi. I declined to go gi so now I am going to IBJJF worlds.

I am fairly sure it will be at purple as my instructor said it would be very disingenuous for me to go no-gi blue belt for even one year, let alone two, but like I said, my instructor is strict and only promotes based on gi performance.

 

[Ice 9 Cobra]

Its too bad you can't do black, rooster is pretty thin and I think you could definitely win it.

 

[Toastytoy]

i dont get the point of this, why do they can how long you have been training?

 

[Dirty Holt]

i dont get the point of this, why do they can how long you have been training?

They make you wait a certain amount of time between each belt (blue to purple is 2 years) so that you cannot graduate belts too quickly.

 

[Dirty Holt]

Its too bad you can't do black, rooster is pretty thin and I think you could definitely win it.

LOL I am Pluma, so with 2 dudes there is a good shot of me sneaking out a bronze.

 

[Ice 9 Cobra]

Plus no Caio, Mullins or Bruno. You could get a bye straight into the finals.

I know the IBJJF let me compete at purple even though I was only at blue for sixteen months. I have no clue how they would track that without someone snitching

 

[Dirty Holt]

Plus no Caio, Mullins or Bruno. You could get a bye straight into the finals.

I know the IBJJF let me compete at purple even though I was only at blue for sixteen months. I have no clue how they would track that without someone snitching

This is the type of information I am asking. Say I go blue and crush everyone. The next year what are the odds that are they gonna bench me for a year if I sign up as a purple?

 

[Ice 9 Cobra]

Since Americans don't have to register lower than brown, I am unsure how they would know what date you got your blue.

I know there is a tenth planet brown belt in my purple belt division at world's, so either they didn't let him do brown or they don't have that much knowledge of what belt competitors actually are.