How many kicks a session?

[TapSD]

So in a 2 or 2 1/2 hour training session I aim for 500 kicks..about 300 on the bag and another 200 on the pads because what I learned in Thailand is at least 1000 kicks a day...Ive been training some people alongside my Kru on some days and noticed that this seems to be way too much for some people(not all) anyone suggest a good kick program? Variations? how many for a begginner? the people I do train I don't want to injure them and I want them to look forward to coming to training every day

 

[Robert D]

For a beginner, 30-60 kicks each leg is plenty.....They should just work on technique and do it slowly.
Obviously more experienced practitioners( like yourself) should aim at 200 (per leg) full power.

One thing i have noticed about the Thai fighters is that they usually retire when young 22-26, do you think that may be because they have overdone it with the training?
I'm just jumping to an assumption there but it seems like 5 hour's training a day(in muay thai) is overdoing it and your body will only take that kind of intensity for so long before breaking down.

 

[Sax MMA]

I agree superstyler. If you notice in Thai fighting ..these kids have 30 professional fights at the young age of like 15-17 years old. Just craziness. So its def possible. 300 to 500 kicks a session ios pleanty

 

[TapSD]

I can agree with that..Ive trained in Thailand twice and after a month of the 3 hour training sessions..2 a day my body was starting to get little injuries..aches and pains even though my gas tank was through the roof.

 

[xinster]

damn that kind of intensity just seems stupid to me on a regular basis. As a beginner, i feel its better to just get the technique down. I don't do extra cardio other than jumprope and bagwork because its not like im training for naga or a kb fight or whatever. That shit can come later when it gets more serious.

 

[Robert D]

I can agree with that..Ive trained in Thailand twice and after a month of the 3 hour training sessions..2 a day my body was starting to get little injuries..aches and pains even though my gas tank was through the roof.

In another year or two i will definetly spend some time in Thailand for training purposes, but there is no way i'll be doing 2 sessions a day 6 days a week.

If i go there in good shape i intend to do 3-4 days per week 1-2 training sessions a day, with some private tuition and 12 K jogs 4 x per week....I expect that to be plenty when you take into consideration the amount of humidity and heat.

What part of Thailand did you train in TapSD??...North, south?..What training camp?..English speaking trainers?

 

[Eduardo R.]

damn that kind of intensity just seems stupid to me on a regular basis. As a beginner, i feel its better to just get the technique down. I don't do extra cardio other than jumprope and bagwork because its not like im training for naga or a kb fight or whatever. That shit can come later when it gets more serious.

Xinster why do you even bother responding? You're just a loud mouth and self admitted beginner so how the hell do you know what works?

 

[xinster]

Xinster why do you even bother responding? You're just a loud mouth and self admitted beginner so how the hell do you know what works?

 

[Ian Coe]

In another year or two i will definetly spend some time in Thailand for training purposes, but there is no way i'll be doing 2 sessions a day 6 days a week.

If i go there in good shape i intend to do 3-4 days per week 1-2 training sessions a day, with some private tuition and 12 K jogs 4 x per week....I expect that to be plenty when you take into consideration the amount of humidity and heat.

What part of Thailand did you train in TapSD??...North, south?..What training camp?..English speaking trainers?

pussy :icon_chee

I'm going to the WMC camp next year some time mate.


One of my clubs co founders is living out there for 6-9 months and running it so its all good

oh yeah, I'd if your working on endurance and technique 200-300 is fine

Power.....you need to cut down on the numbers

 

[TapSD]

Trained at Rawai the first time and Fairtex in Pattya the second time..Was fun but rough of course..and almost everyone in Thailand speaks passable english

 

[TapSD]

And thats the thing..Im not really working with beginners here..these guys have all been doing MT for about 2 years and they have good technique...so why not train like the Thais?

 

[Spoonman7]

I usually break my kicks down into rounds on the heavy bag, 3 rounds and I alternate my kicks from roundhouse to side kick to spinning side kick. I will do doubles and triples as well to build up endurance.

 

[Ian Coe]

And thats the thing..Im not really working with beginners here..these guys have all been doing MT for about 2 years and they have good technique...so why not train like the Thais?

-different diet
-different climate
-different genes
-I assume you work, ie recovery
-different weight


I'm not saying don't, I'm saying tailor it to your needs (ie work hard on work capacity leading up to a fight, but be less harsh when you don't have one coming up).
Thais fight all the time, which is why they have the constant high workload, which is also why they burn out so bloody fast.

But thats just my input really....I'd rather spend 2 1/2 hours sparring as much as I can then kicking and doing pads

 

[abhi]

-different diet
-different climate
-different genes
-I assume you work, ie recovery
-different weight


I'm not saying don't, I'm saying tailor it to your needs (ie work hard on work capacity leading up to a fight, but be less harsh when you don't have one coming up).
Thais fight all the time, which is why they have the constant high workload, which is also why they burn out so bloody fast.

But thats just my input really....I'd rather spend 2 1/2 hours sparring as much as I can then kicking and doing pads

yo Ian you gonna be at this event to watch

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=405681

also can Jamhod take Wakeling two titles if he wins as I dont really know how the belt system works in federations

 

[Ian Coe]

Yes mate, we have 4 fighters on the show, olley watson (his names on the poster), anwar, Lyndon and the legend that is kenny gale (thats a international.
One of the guys is fighting James McSweeny for a rematch in early Oct as well.


I might be in the corner, depends if I have to buy a ticket and if they need help

Sucks that no one at my weight opened up, would have loved to be the show

 

[abhi]

but if Jamhod wins will he take the other guys 2 titles

 

[Ian Coe]

I don't remember even contesting that in my above post..........

 

[JiGsAw]

Sometimes at my gym we do an excercise near the end of the session, 50 right kicks medium height on the right side, 50 left, then 40 right, 40 left...etc Untill you get to 10. You seem to get so tired that it forces you to work on technique to save energy, thus, your technique also gets better.

 

[JiGsAw]

I'll be down at that thai legend show by the way, quality line up, used to train with Richard Fenwick at Woking.

 

[exclamatio]

-different diet
-different climate
-different genes
-I assume you work, ie recovery
-different weight


I'm not saying don't, I'm saying tailor it to your needs (ie work hard on work capacity leading up to a fight, but be less harsh when you don't have one coming up).
Thais fight all the time, which is why they have the constant high workload, which is also why they burn out so bloody fast.

But thats just my input really....I'd rather spend 2 1/2 hours sparring as much as I can then kicking and doing pads

agreed on all points

also i feel in the west the attitude to most things in life is completely different anyway
people who would spend everyday of their lives training like the thais are few and far between