How Good is Darren Till?

[MMAProfessional]

Is pretty competitive against everyone but can't really put anything together. He got some fights against guys willing to strike and does pretty well but not sure where his grappling is at. Seems like the UFC needed a UK guy and pushed him too hard. Will be interesting to see if his work with Khamzat improves his game enough. His two best wins could have gone either way although he did fairly respectable against Whittaker I don't see him as being all that great compared where he's made out to be.

 

[Morris88]

He needs to fight down next. I think Tavares makes sense, he just lost to Du Plessis.

If he can get a decent win against Brad that should help build him back up. I don't think he beats anyone else in the top 10 at present.

 

[corrupted]

Whatever the answer is. He could be better

 

[OldBoy91]

He's good. He's top 10 for sure. I think his main issues are not a lack of skill, but he seems mentally quite frail, he has a point where he breaks and it seems like ever since the Masvidal KO he stopped feeling like he was invincible and that took a huge toll on him mentally. It happens to a lot of guys but with Till it's really pronounced.

He went from being massively overrated (by the UFC) to massively underrated (by Sherdog).

 

[benebox]

Great striker who is good in all areas but is too tentative when striking and still needs to work on his TDD. If he can fix these flaws he has all the attributes to become champ one day.

 

[ferrisjso]

He got a title shot once and was relevant against the aging Woodley/Thompson/Lawler and friends generation. When WW transitioned to the next generation he was not relevant.

He went to a historically weak MW and he is a borderline top 10 fighter in said division, if he turns it around top 5. If he was still at WW he'd be outside the top 10 and likely cut.

IMO even if he's underacheiving(i can see that) this division is so bad it has to improve at some point and his competition is going to get tougher.

 

[WHITEBELT JESUS]

Till finished LW Donald Cerrone like six years ago. That’s about it, TS. Future outlook is not so great either as he’s injury prone, chiny, and will be 30 before he fights again. So yeah his opportunity has passed him by the UFC meat grinder has claimed another victim.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

Is pretty competitive against everyone but can't really put anything together. He got some fights against guys willing to strike and does pretty well but not sure where his grappling is at. Seems like the UFC needed a UK guy and pushed him too hard. Will be interesting to see if his work with Khamzat improves his game enough. His two best wins could have gone either way although he did fairly respectable against Whittaker I don't see him as being all that great compared where he's made out to be.

Gatekeeper. Keith Jardine.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

Till finished LW Donald Cerrone like six years ago. That’s about it, TS. Future outlook is not so great either as he’s injury prone, chiny, and will be 30 before he fights again. So yeah his opportunity has passed him by the UFC meat grinder has claimed another victim.

He has youth on his side. How old was Anderson when he won the belt? Likely? No. He's fallen on hard times and ufc rushed him. Woolley would have been a better opportunity. Izy is too much. Leon would have been a good time. Styles make fights.

 

[Stonedcharizard]

Must be a mindfuck to go 17-0 then lose what you think is your destined title shot, then get KOed in the next fight in your hometown, then also watch the dude who beat you for the title literally lose to everyone else after and Jake Paul.

 

[markantony20]

He’s got good standup but he’s shown some issues on the ground and a tendency to be gun shy.

He’s still an incredibly dangerous fighter though like when he almost KO’d Rob with that elbow.

 

[tornado362]

Yeah it's a shame Till has the more outgoing personality, cause Leon was always the better fighter, and should have been pushed earlier based on skill if they wanted a UK guy.

 

[Pitbull]

He's obviously decent, but he never looked good enough to be champion even when he was undefeated despite the hype.

 

[Bork Neslar]

GOAT

 

[pankrat]

He went to a historically weak MW and he is a borderline top 10 fighter in said division

This a myth. BS mostly pushed by GSP fanboys.
Till is one of PLENTY examples that the caliber of competition is not that weaker at MW than at WW, at least not once you get into the rankings.

 

[pankrat]

Very good standup but It seems that a legit TD threat messes a lot with his striking ability. Add to that his questionable ground game.

If he gets matched up favourably he can get back into the top5 but legit grapplers as Muniz or Imavov could give him trouble.
I was really looking forward to his fight with Vettori, hope there is an occasion to rescheduled it if Marvin loses to Whittaker.

 

[oldschoolmmafan]

This a myth. BS mostly pushed by GSP fanboys.
Till is one of PLENTY examples that the caliber of competition is not that weaker at MW than at WW, at least not once you get into the rankings.

Top 5 is a murderer's row.

 

[ferrisjso]

This a myth. BS mostly pushed by GSP fanboys.
Till is one of PLENTY examples that the caliber of competition is not that weaker at MW than at WW, at least not once you get into the rankings.

MWs are typically bigger than WW and yet at this moment WW is harder.

I don't know how this case would be relevant to GSP. GSP fought in a different era of both WW and MW than Till. There's no overlap here whatsoever. Also lol you've likely seen my thoughts on GSP. Am I a GSP fanboy?

 

[Ace70 V2]

I think the question should be how good was he? Injuries will eat his prime like a sumo wrestler at a buffet.

 

[pankrat]

I don't know how this case would be relevant to GSP. GSP fought in a different era of both WW and MW than Till. There's no overlap here whatsoever. Also lol you've likely seen my thoughts on GSP. Am I a GSP fanboy?

Well you said "historically" weak MW division.
Which get us back to the days when GSP fanboys were trying to downplay Silva's superior performances (finishes) by labelling his challengers as "contenders in a weak division".

Otherwise what you meant with "historically"? The days in which we have Machida, Jacare, Romero, Weidman, Rockhold, Mousasi, Belfort, Henderson, Bisping, Silva, Whittaker all in the same weightclass circa 2015? It would be silly to label such division as "weak".

MWs are typically bigger than WW and yet at this moment WW is harder.

I dont know what you mean here. Is harder what you mean?
Till's case doesnt seem to support such statement.