Gloves for full contact sparring with some grappling ability?
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I've used these for moderate-heavy sparring and no one seemed to complain. Either the padding is pretty good or I hit like a bitch but I'd like to think it was the former.
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f67/hayabusa-pro-hybrid-mma-gloves-review-1177943/
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f67/hayabusa-pro-hybrid-mma-gloves-review-1177943/
Thanks for the suggestion. I had seen those. They still look a bit on the thin side though.
Thanks. Those do look more padded than most MMA gloves I have seen and have an almost boxing look to them. It says it's just over 1.5" padding. I wonder about how many oz that would be equivalent to in boxing terms. But they are surely on the top of the list for now, along with the Kempo gloves which seems to have at about 2" padding but have not found any reviews yet.
This issue has come up in other discussions. There really isn't a true "hybrid" glove that you can use for both. You have to choose between protection when striking (boxing gloves) or grappling and flexibility (MMA glove). That's why the pro's use both depending on what they are working on.
Yes, I realize that. This is why I mentioned that what I'm looking for is gloves that prioritize striking while still allowing basic grappling. Basic would be enough. Boxing gloves won't allow grappling at all. MMA gloves prioritize grappling.
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MMA "Safety Sparring GLoves" are as good as you are going to get.
I use these:
Cageside MMA Safety Training Gloves * Black
I used the Kenpo Gloves back in the day when that was all you could get.
You feel like an Astronaut in those.
I use these:
Cageside MMA Safety Training Gloves * Black
I used the Kenpo Gloves back in the day when that was all you could get.
You feel like an Astronaut in those.
Thanks. I still think those are too thin.They say same shock dispersing capabilities as a 16oz. boxing glove but it still a 7oz glove? Interesting.
Don't know. All these training MMA gloves remind me of the cobra punches from back in the day. They look very similar actually, maybe just a bit more padded. But the cobra punches were good for light contact only.
Could you elaborate on what you didn't like about the kempo gloves? For me, although I have never sparred with them, they felt on the hand like boxing gloves. The difference is that I could move my fingers.
It would be interesting to hear a review from somebody who have actually used them. Thanks.
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If you want to spar and use your Fingers then you need open Gloves.
"Safety" or "Sparring" MMA GLoves are still too thick for good Grappling.
The Kenpo Gloves don't protect against Punches as well as the modern MMA Sparring Gloves do.
I used the Kenpo Gloves for 8 years.
"Safety" or "Sparring" MMA GLoves are still too thick for good Grappling.
The Kenpo Gloves don't protect against Punches as well as the modern MMA Sparring Gloves do.
I used the Kenpo Gloves for 8 years.
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"The Solution" from american standup. I bought a set and I am very impressed with them. They are well made and have a ton of padding so I think they would suit you well. And the Price is right. Ill post up a review sometime this week.
"The Solution" from american standup. I bought a set and I am very impressed with them. They are well made and have a ton of padding so I think they would suit you well. And the Price is right. Ill post up a review sometime this week.
I have used similar to those made by Truth fight gear and was not impressed at all at their capabilities-getting hit by those is bloody painful!I would be more inclined to look at a Shooto style glove like the ones by Cageside,Fairtex or KOFightgear if he has any left.U are not going to get the same shock reduction capabilities as a boxing glove,whichever you choose is going to be a trade off,you can go at say 90% force in boxing gloves but say 10% grappling ability,say in a Shooto style glove 70% force but 70% grappling ability if that makes sense..If you wish to grapple as well as spar you will need to reduce the force guys and gals are throwing their punches at I suspect.
And the Bong Sau gloves I found were awful to grapple in and you do not have the facility to actually move your hands that well,are bulky as hell to use,are not flexible and are not that great when you compare them to other stuff that is out there...I used them until the Boxergenics gloves became available and then got those and was much happier.Agree with you regards the cobra style kung fu gloves were not great either..
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I have to agree with Tone C here. Those definitely don't look padded enough. They really aren't any better than semi contact gloves.
Those look almost exactly like the cobra punches JKDEastNashvill and I are talking about. In fact they may be as well the same thing and for the same application, semi contact martial arts, much like the Macho foam stuff.
Here is the cobra punch by ProForce. I bought a pair back in the day and they are definitely not good for full contact sparring.
Gladiator "Cobra Gloves" for
Yes, I have been looking at the rogue sparmaster. They say the padding offers the same level of protection on the striking surface as a 16oz boxing glove, which is the same claim the gloves posted by JKDEastNashvill. So you have used the rogues and they are not any good in the ground? But they seem like you can still grapple, throw, and do basically grappling.
One thing I don't like about them is they offer no thumb protection, which can be bad for hooks and hammer fists.
Again, those are just like the cobra punch. Look like semi contact gloves. In fact, besides the rogue sparmaster, the cagemaster MMA sparring glove and the rival RMX-S1, I really can't see any difference between all those MMA gloves and semi contact gloves for Karate and Taekwondo.
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So the Cageside MMA Safety Training Gloves are still too thick for grappling? I tried finding an open hand picture of them but couldn't.
Do you really feel like they are like having 16oz boxing gloves as they claim or is this just marketing BS? I can't see how this can be possible by looking at them and by the fact they are 7oz gloves.
What do you think of the rival RMX-S1 that aLways posted? It's hard to see exactly in the picture but they look like they could be at least as good as the rogue or the cageside.
When you say they don't protect against punches you mean don't protect the hands or the head? In any case this is an interesting conclusion since they are more padded than any MMA glove out there. This is why it's good to hear from people who have used the gear before buying. Thanks.
By the way, I'm not sure if you used the classic leather and lace ones or the more modern versions of the kempo gloves. They had both at the store and the classic one is definitely worse. The leather makes it very stiff, the laces are a pain and the palm is made of suede leather and not only feels weaker but also flimsy and not tight enough. The more modern version is not made of leather but a very flexible and somewhat elastic material, the palm is made of the same material so it hugs your hands better and they are velcro instead of laces. When you make a fist with this version it becomes more like a foam ball while with the classic leather one its hard to really close your hands tight.
In any case, now it seems to be between:
Cageside MMA safety training gloves: Look well padded, good overall protection but still not sure it's padded enough.
Rogue Sparrmaster. Looks well padded but offers no thumb protection.
Modern Kempo gloves. Seems to be well padded, offers good hand protection but are bulky.
RMX-S1 MMA sparring gloves. Seems to be well padded but they seem to be a bit too lose around the fingers.
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I actually have these gloves and they are very well made and the padding is fine. But of course with any MMA glove you have to be smart and control your power. I have never received complaints from people I am hitting with these and they are alright on the ground. I don't feel a lot in my hands either.
The only real problem I have with them is the placement of the pinky, which is more about my own hands than the gloves themselves.
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"Tone C" and "tiger.shark" are right on the money with these two statements. No matter how you slice it, MMA style gloves just do not have the padding, and more importantly the surface area to disburse full power strikes like a boxing glove does. And, I am not sure, I may have missed it, but, I did not hear you mention anything about headgear, which throws new issues into the grappling realm. So, IMHO my advice to you would be "proceed wisely."
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Thanks. They look to be the same as the cageside ones.
But I have to agree with what ECS123 posted:
Anyways, it turns out somebody I know knows somebody who has them kempo gloves and will let me borrow them to try. The guy seems to like it. So I will be able to try them first hand and see how they do going "full gas"
Then if they suck I guess I will just have to go with these MMA gloves and either take it easy or just ignore the pain :icon_twis
J/K.
I will report back once I try them out. For those who don't know what they are, kempo gloves, also known as bong sau gloves:
Yeah I know, they look kind of weird but they are pretty much fingered boxing gloves so let's see.
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