Fedor in ADCC??
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Maybe he does not have a "safe mode"
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War_Hunto said:
Randy held Jacarre to a draw, and since Randy considers fedor to be easily #1 fighter on Earth including pfp, I'd say that fedor would be ok in adcc.
Fedor is a European Judo Cup Champion, and national bronze at a young age.
3-time World Sambo Champion and 4-time Russian Champion including Sport Sambo (no strikes)
adcc GOD Arona (absolute Champion, 13-0 with no points scored against him) fought Fedor in Rings (no GnP allowed = Fedor's #1 weapon) just after his adcc triumph. Fedor won, and had a guillotine and a leg lock on Arona, while Ricardo had Fedor's back at one point too, great match!
Nog fights showed that Fedor is pretty much impossible to submit.
So before all these noobs here start screaming Garcia would tap Fedor in 2 seconds etc. etc. etc. etc. they should think about it a liottle! I mean is Randy better than Fedor at sub defence? Is randy better at slapping armbars on?........
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Fedor would get owned in ADCC.
Why would he bother? The most he could win would be 50,000 ... he gets way more to fight MMA. As he's said himself, he fights to feed himself and his family.
Would you quite your job to work at one that pays 1/20th what you're getting now?
ADCC is basically a big tournament for BJJ'ers, but hardly on the radar for judoka, samboists and wrestlers (just as olympic judo or wrestling aren't on the BJJ radar - most olympic level judoka and wrestlers haven't even heard of ADCC). I suspect he'd be more likely to try for an olympic gold in judo than ADCC if he ever went for pure grappling again, though I can't see him doing that either ... why give up millions to fight for a few thousand?
Would you quite your job to work at one that pays 1/20th what you're getting now?
ADCC is basically a big tournament for BJJ'ers, but hardly on the radar for judoka, samboists and wrestlers (just as olympic judo or wrestling aren't on the BJJ radar - most olympic level judoka and wrestlers haven't even heard of ADCC). I suspect he'd be more likely to try for an olympic gold in judo than ADCC if he ever went for pure grappling again, though I can't see him doing that either ... why give up millions to fight for a few thousand?
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Draxattack said:
like Couture did?
georgejjr said:
I wouldn't think he'd have to really alter anything in his training to place in the ADCC tournament. Maybe the promoters of the event would be wise to pay someone like Fedor an appearance fee.
Does this appear on PPV anywhere? I'd think there would be an audience for it if there were enough "name" MMA participants competiting.
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kusokidiota said:Randy held Jacarre to a draw in adcc, and since Randy considers fedor to be easily #1 fighter on Earth including pfp, I'd say that fedor would be ok in adcc to say the very least.
Fedor is a European Judo Cup Champion, and national bronze at a VERY young age.
3-time World Sambo Champion and 4-time Russian Champion including Sport Sambo (no strikes)
adcc GOD Arona (absolute Champion, 13-0 with no points scored against him) fought Fedor in Rings (no GnP allowed = Fedor's #1 weapon) just after his adcc triumph. Fedor won, and had a guillotine and a leg lock on Arona, while Ricardo had Fedor's back at one point too, great match!
Nog fights showed that Fedor is pretty much impossible to submit.
So before all these noobs here start screaming Garcia would tap Fedor in 2 seconds etc. etc. etc. etc. they should think about it a liottle! I mean is Randy better than Fedor at sub defence? Is randy better at slapping armbars on?........
That match was not ADCC. Jacare vs. Randy was at PSL's "X-mission" under a completely different format which favored Randy.
That being said, I think Fedor would do pretty well. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Garcia tapped him within a few minutes, Garcia is just that good.
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kusokidiota said:
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Couture is a better pure grappler.
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kusokidiota said:
Apples and oranges. He maybe great at punching people in the face, that doesn't translate to him being a great grappler.
And how many Judocas and Sambistas won the ADCC? That's what I thought.
Again, Apples and oranges. With ring rules you can punch to the body and Fedor did. Many (including yours truley) think the decission should have gone to Arona. Also that was a LONG time before Arona won anything in the ADCC. I don't think he was as good then.
Yeah, when he is punching you to the face. Did I mention anything about apples and oranges?
Garcia by armbar.
I thought we are talking about Fedor here. But if you want to talk about Randy, well he stalled the whole match like his life depended on it. Hardly a performance that would win the ADCC. Not a good example to give.
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As good as he is at mma i honestly dont think he would do that good in adcc. I dont think he would embarrass himself but as he showed against cro cop he isnt very good at passing guard so the only way i see him winning is pulling a jeff monson and getting the takedown and stalling in the guard, i dont see him submitting anyone. And do we know what hes like off his back against someone who isnt coleman? Only Hunt and Arona really and he didnt look amazing really. Thats probably not why he doesnt enter though, its probably more to do with him concentrating on just mma and i dont think hed give up a pay day from mma to enter adcc where he probably wouldnt win.
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kusokidiota said:
You neglect to mention Arona also mounted more than once, passed guard many times, took the back, scored all the takedowns etc. I can't think of anything Fedor did that would have scored a point in ADCC... also Arona was the only one in a position to GnP in that fight. hehe
It would be interesting to if Fedor would get subbed in ADCC. Obviously Arona wouldn't do it, but there are some wizards out there... but it's just hard to picture Fedor tapping :icon_lol:
When he was pounding Nog's lights out, yes. But that would get him DQ'd in ADCC :wink:
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Draxattack said:
fedor would do just fine in any grappling tournament. and how do u figure couture is a better grappler ? fedor has just as effective takedown better subs ect ect ect. randy is awsome but i think fedor would make him tap. IMO fedor would be one of the top guys
I find it interesting that Igor Vovchanchyn is competing in ADCC this year in New Jersey
http://www2.adcombat.com/article.html?id=12936
http://www2.adcombat.com/article.html?id=12936
GrapplingDummy said:
Sanae Kikuta for sure, Hayato Sakurai did pretty well to (2nd absolute and 3rd in his weight division) and other judo guy did good.
The problem is that ADCC is not only submitting, but has his unique scoring system, that is so different to judo.
Look at the Olympian Mashurenko, he fought 2 match, with Ricardo Arona and Almeida, that are 2 of the best ADCC grappler of all time.
He lost the match due penality. He wasn't scored any point on him, he loss to almeida like 0 to -11 , cause he did some thing that in ADCC rules are penalized, but not in judo or other grappling sport (like stand up from the opponents guard or being no to active in some part of the game).
So Being for great Samboka or Judoka or Wrestler, even if you are unsubmittable for your opponent, you can still lose the match.
