Evolution of Chun-Li's Kikoken 1992-2022

[NoSmilez]

The new incarnations of Chun Li have BBL.

 

[Dream Evil]

LOL, is that really what she looks like now? Haven't played SF since SFII The New Challengers.

 

[Madmick]

She's slowly evolving into Tom Platz.

 

[WhiteMousse]

Yeah give me the original please. OG Chun Li is an absolute dream

 

[SwamiLeoni]

I remember that first time seeing Chun shoot her fireball playing against her. I had no idea she could do that and never heard any news about it. One of the more surprising moments I've had since I started playing.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

 

[Deleted member 449757]

The original was just the same animation as her close double palm strike with a fireball added. I never noticed that.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

The original was just the same animation as her close double palm strike with a fireball added. I never noticed that.

Loads of that across 2D street fighter of course, animation frames were really the main workload of those games.

I do have to say though I always felt Capcom were a bit lazy when it came to all the different versions of Street Fighter 2, releasing 95% the same game about half a dozen times.

 

[Deleted member 449757]

Loads of that across 2D street fighter of course, animation frames were really the main workload of those games.

I do have to say though I always felt Capcom were a bit lazy when it came to all the different versions of Street Fighter 2, releasing 95% the same game about half a dozen times.

Which makes it seem weird to me that the let a lot of cool Zangief frames go to waste. In SFII - The World Warrior, Zangief had like 10 different regular grapple moves. Then in the later versions, they switched some around and kept removing others so he has significantly less by SSFII Turbo.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Which makes it seem weird to me that the let a lot of cool Zangief frames go to waste. In SFII - The World Warrior, Zangief had like 10 different regular grapple moves. Then in the later versions, they switched some around and kept removing others so he has significantly less by SSFII Turbo.

Honestly I think he was the worst example of capcom not really dealing with fundamental issues with the game and instead just making it cheaper and cheaper.

People tend to think it was 3D that hurt Street Fighter but I tend to think it was more Capcom burned though a lot of their goodwill, by the time of Super Street Fighter 2 really the game was just so broken and cheap IMHO that casual players gave up on it for stuff like Tekken.

 

[Deleted member 449757]

Honestly I think he was the worst example of capcom not really dealing with fundamental issues with the game and instead just making it cheaper and cheaper.

People tend to think it was 3D that hurt Street Fighter but I tend to think it was more Capcom burned though a lot of their goodwill, by the time of Super Street Fighter 2 really the game was just so broken and cheap IMHO that casual players gave up on it for stuff like Tekken.

The american arcade version of SSF2T is especially garbage, with input reading AI. It's really not fun to play.

 

[Crimson Fury]

The original was just the same animation as her close double palm strike with a fireball added. I never noticed that.

Yeah, every new move from Hyper Fighting reuses animation. E. Honda's Sumo Smash is another good example.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

The american arcade version of SSF2T is especially garbage, with input reading AI. It's really not fun to play.

A lot of the time the AI is just outright cheating with moves like Zangrief's sweep hitting faster or being invincible plus charge moves like Guiles flip kick the CPU pulls off walking forward. Capcom really should have been sorting that shit out but instead they doubled down on it and again I think that turned everyone but the hardcores off.

The sad thing is the games that followed I think did improve quite a bit, by the time of SF3 Third Strike its actually a very balanced game were you can play the CPU without just cheesing it out.

 

[Crimson Fury]

A lot of the time the AI is just outright cheating with moves like Zangrief's sweep hitting faster or being invincible plus charge moves like Guiles flip kick the CPU pulls off walking forward. Capcom really should have been sorting that shit out but instead they doubled down on it and again I think that turned everyone but the hardcores off.

The sad thing is the games that followed I think did improve quite a bit, by the time of SF3 Third Strike its actually a very balanced game were you can play the CPU without just cheesing it out.

TBF, it wasn't just Capcom at the time. Sega, Namco, Midway, and especially SNK had cheap AI in their games. They were meant to take a bunch of quarters before you can see the endings. SNK was by far the worst. Holy shit.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

TBF, it wasn't just Capcom at the time. Sega, Namco, Midway, and especially SNK had cheap AI in their games. They were meant to take a bunch of quarters before you can see the endings. SNK was by far the worst. Holy shit.

SNK had a rep for making their bosses very cheap but I don't think the games as a whole were as bad as SF2 were really cheesing out the AI by targeting its weaknesses is the only way to win.

 

[Crimson Fury]

SNK had a rep for making their bosses very cheap but I don't think the games as a whole were as bad as SF2 were really cheesing out the AI by targeting its weaknesses is the only way to win.

The earlier titles in SNK fighting games were much MUCH worse than any version of SF2. Go try fighting the first opponent in Art of Fighting 2. It's like fighting Rugal. I've never had a problem with the AI in most of Capcom's fighting games (X-Men COTA), but Art of Fighting 2 and Fatal Fury Special? Those were ridiculous.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

The earlier titles in SNK fighting games were much MUCH worse than any version of SF2. Go try fighting the first opponent in Art of Fighting 2. It's like fighting Rugal. I've never had a problem with the AI in most of Capcom's fighting games (X-Men COTA), but Art of Fighting 2 and Fatal Fury Special? Those were ridiculous.

My memory of those is you could actually play them without a gameplan though, something you can't really do with SF2. you basically need to know the weaknesses of each CPU character to beat them.

SF2 wasnt unreasonable hard but I just don't think it was very fun to play.

 

[Crimson Fury]

My memory of those is you could actually play them without a gameplan though, something you can't really do with SF2. you basically need to know the weaknesses of each CPU character to beat them.

SF2 wasnt unreasonable hard but I just don't think it was very fun to play.

You couldn't. SF2 was not notoriously difficult even though it obviously cheats. AOF2 was. It was more like a puzzle game. Can't throw projectiles, can't sweep, can't jump, etc. And that was the first opponent!

With SF2, you can at least practice combos against the AI. With AOF2 you can barely touch them until you find the magic move/pattern that in falls for.

 

[GSP_37]

Huge droopy sideboob?