Essentially, what is "game"?

[Goonerview]

In the romantic sense, what does having good "game" mean? I want to use this thread to discuss it and break it down to a fundamental concept. If possible.

How I understand it. You meet a girl on a night out or at a party, you need to have enough confidence to approach her, ask her a few questions, be charming/friendly and then ask her if she's interested in coffee/dinner some time.

If she says yes and seems excited. Exchange numbers. But don't be too excited or show too much emotion. "Game" and the concept of attraction is her not knowing exactly where she stands with you, do you really like her or not? Who knows?

You go on a date for dinner/coffee. Get to know each other a little, have fun. Then end the date. Ask her out again a week later, be chill, calm and cool. No showing any emotions of affection of that you are liking her. No "looking forward to seeing you again" type messages. Instant attraction killers ....

The next time, invite her out closer to your house/ around for dinner.

Wait until you are for certain that she is into you and then make a move, go for a kiss.

So, game is essentially, showing a girl interest, spending some time together, but not doing anything goofy or overly affectionate so that she doesn't know where she stands with you, then when you are sure that she really likes you, you make a move.

Can anyone break it down better than this?

 

[E Undead]

 

[Psychedelic]

"Game" is a meme invented by people who want to sell you self-help books, subscriptions, and snake oil.

At the end of the day, if you're a sexually attractive person, the girl will let you know she's down to fuck in one way or another. If not, not amount of "confidence" and "game" will let you into her pants.

 

[Clear Winner]

If you have to ask what it is or overthink about the minutiae of what it involves, you haven't got it and never will.

 

[Goonerview]

If you have to ask what it is or overthink about the minutiae of what it involves, you haven't got it and never will.

This is not true.

There have been stages of my life, where I was really good with women, without thinking I was attracting lots of good quality women.

There have also been stages of my life where I have been absolutely woeful with women and just repelled them. They'd block and delete my number and I'd be dumbfounded.

I am currently reflecting on this and am trying to get a breakdown of essentially what having good game is ...

Having inner peace and feeling comfortable in your own skin is essential. Having money, own crib, a decent job is also an essential. But, in terms of the attraction dynamic ... what is game, essentially?

 

[Goonerview]

"Game" is a meme invented by people who want to sell you self-help books, subscriptions, and snake oil.

At the end of the day, if you're a sexually attractive person, the girl will let you know she's down to fuck in one way or another. If not, not amount of "confidence" and "game" will let you into her pants.

Are you denying the concept of "game"?

Good looks will help you, but if your game is weak, a good looking man will also get rejected

 

[HHJ]

"Game" is a meme invented by people who want to sell you self-help books, subscriptions, and snake oil.

At the end of the day, if you're a sexually attractive person, the girl will let you know she's down to fuck in one way or another. If not, not amount of "confidence" and "game" will let you into her pants.

Bullshit. Bull fuckin shit.

Ugly ass dudes can get hot chicks.

Serge gainsborough aint no good looking dude,but that motherfucker had GAME.

 

[Goonerview]

"Game" is a meme invented by people who want to sell you self-help books, subscriptions, and snake oil.

At the end of the day, if you're a sexually attractive person, the girl will let you know she's down to fuck in one way or another. If not, not amount of "confidence" and "game" will let you into her pants.

You can be sexually attractive, but if you tell a girl on a first date that you "like her" or you over-compliment her, or you message her too much too soon ... she will reject you. Point blank.

I don't care if you look like Brad Pitt in his prime, a woman would reject your ass so f**king fast.

This is what I mean by having "game"

 

[Clear Winner]

This is not true.

There have been stages of my life, where I was really good with women, without thinking I was attracting lots of good quality women.

There have also been stages of my life where I have been absolutely woeful with women and just repelled them. They'd block and delete my number and I'd be dumbfounded.

I am currently reflecting on this and am trying to get a breakdown of essentially what having good game is ...

Having inner peace and feeling comfortable in your own skin is essential. Having money, own crib, a decent job is also an essential. But, in terms of the attraction dynamic ... what is game, essentially?

Honestly, if it left so suddenly, you never truly had it. You hit a sweet spot of getting girls. Still great, but that could be down to luck or timing.

The guys who I know who have game can't lose it overnight unless they suffered hideous injuries or moved to another country where the dynamics (most likely racial or social) are different.

I agree with what you said about being comfortable in your own skin being essential, but all of the other things aren't at all. Cars, money, house etc... aren't essential. I've known of some broke bums that live at home and still get some of the nicest girls, because they charm them. That might change when they get into their 40's and it becomes ridiculous, but I bet they'd still be able to get some, just less.

 

[Goonerview]

Honestly, if it left so suddenly, you never truly had it. You hit a sweet spot of getting girls. Still great, but that could be down to luck or timing.

The guys who I know who have game can't lose it overnight unless they suffered hideous injuries or moved to another country where the dynamics (most likely racial or social) are different.

I agree with what you said about being comfortable in your own skin being essential, but all of the other things aren't at all. Cars, money, house etc... aren't essential. I've known of some broke bums that live at home and still get some of the nicest girls, because they charm them. That might change when they get into their 40's and it becomes ridiculous, but I bet they'd still be able to get some, just less.

I'm talking mainly about the dynamics of the relationship.

You can be charming, good looking, rich, high status etc. etc. ... but if you over-compliment a girl, message her too much or tell her you like her, too soon ... your ass is done.

 

[HHJ]

Honestly, if it left so suddenly, you never truly had it. You hit a sweet spot of getting girls. Still great, but that could be down to luck or timing.

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I dont agree. To a degree It has to do with your confidence,and that can ebb and flow based on circumstance. Someone in their "flow state" could be an absolute pantysmasher,compared to others,but arent always "on"

 

[Psychedelic]

Are you denying the concept of "game"?

Good looks will help you, but if your game is weak, a good looking man will also get rejected

Good looks (ie: desirable genes) will not just "help" you. They are the core of what makes you desirable to the other sex. If anything, personality and what you call "game" would help a little bit, but it's never the basis of your failure / success with women.

I have an autistic friend who's good looking, and he never had problems with girls. By contrast, I know a lot of guys from work with very strong personalities, assertive as fuck, and have all the "game" components, yet fail to get laid and are viewed as non-sexual objects by women.

 

[Clear Winner]

You can be sexually attractive, but if you tell a girl on a first date that you "like her" or you over-compliment her, or you message her too much too soon ... she will reject you. Point blank.

I don't care if you look like Brad Pitt in his prime, a woman would reject your ass.

Very wrong.

@frenz what do you think?

You'd have to be really creepy to scare them off, but telling them that you like them isn't going to scare them away unless they don't like you at all.

 

[HHJ]

I agree with what you said about being comfortable in your own skin being essential, but all of the other things aren't at all. Cars, money, house etc... aren't essential. I've known of some broke bums that live at home and still get some of the nicest girls, because they charm them. That might change when they get into their 40's and it becomes ridiculous, but I bet they'd still be able to get some, just less.

This part tho is true.

Its all down to how you can charm them and how that makes them feel. Comfortable women dont want to have to "start over"

 

[Goonerview]

Very wrong.

@frenz what do you think?

You'd have to be really creepy to scare them off, but telling them that you like them isn't going to scare them away unless they don't like you at all.

If you do it too soon, it would.

I've been on some dates with women who were all over my junk ... as soon as I started talking about relationships or feelings, it was over. Dead in the water. lol

At that point, the homeless guy on the street had a better chance of getting laid.

 

[Psychedelic]

Bullshit. Bull fuckin shit.

Ugly ass dudes can get hot chicks.

Serge gainsborough aint no good looking dude,but that motherfucker had GAME.

Symmetrical, masculine face.

Defined jawline.

Full head of hair into his fifties.

Dreamy gangster eyes .

Yeah bro, Serge Gainsbourg was an ugly motherfucker with shit genetics.

 

[HHJ]

Symmetrical, masculine face.

Defined jawline.

Full head of hair into his fifties.

Dreamy gangster eyes .

Yeah bro, Serge Gainsbourg was an ugly motherfucker with shit genetics.

You just have a inferiority complex,is all. However,it doesnt have to last. You can switch characters at a drop of a hat,if you got the stones to do it.

 

[frenz]

Very wrong.

@frenz what do you think?

You'd have to be really creepy to scare them off, but telling them that you like them isn't going to scare them away unless they don't like you at all.

I don’t understand the logic at all. Grow up and say it with your chest.

 

[Plutoburn]

Game, broadly speaking, is a set of action and mindset that increases one's desirability and other's attraction toward the person. The best of these traits actually have positive effects on a person's other areas of life. But if used incorrectly, can lead a person into being a total douchebag manipulator.

 

[frenz]

Bullshit. Bull fuckin shit.

Ugly ass dudes can get hot chicks.

Serge gainsborough aint no good looking dude,but that motherfucker had GAME.

Look at that style

He’s got something to say. An interesting POV. Something different. That is attractive