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Environment and the right

Well God controls the environment, so there is no point to any of that shit anyways.
 
Most people I know are pro environment. The problem exists in the old industrial capitalist way existent in every form of government worldwide. For America, both sides greedily receive donations from such players. Its already beyond partisanship and not in a save the planet way but a fill the coffers way.
 
We can’t do anything in America with the modern Republican Party the way they are now.

These are the people who vote against their own bills to spite one side of the political spectrum. The same party that didn’t pass one piece of legislation to help the American people when they controlled every branch of government. Just think about that for a second.
 
RetiredSlave said:
Most people I know are pro environment. The problem exists in the old industrial capitalist way existent in every form of government worldwide. For America, both sides greedily receive donations from such players. Its already beyond partisanship and not in a save the planet way but a fill the coffers way.
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I await your list of democratic officials receiving money to give speeches on the floor about climate denial.

Top 20 recipients - 3 are dems
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries./recips.php?ind=E01++

The dem position on responsible environmental policy spoke volumes, as does this wholesale dismantling of environmental regulations by the GOP.

Fun fact - #4, Steve Scalise, also took NRA money to help sabotage any and all gun control AFTER getting his dick shot off by a deranged madman in Washington DC.
 
KONG-D'SNT-TAP said:
We can’t do anything in America with the modern Republican Party the way they are now.

These are the people who vote against their own bills to spite one side of the political spectrum. The same party that didn’t pass one piece of legislation to help the American people when they controlled every branch of government. Just think about that for a second.
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Did you somehow miss the Tax reform, the booming economy and record numbers that followed?
 
Here we go. We (US) are the best stewards of the planet on the planet. Just during my lifetime people (everyone) have become more educated and such as regards pollution overall. You don't see now from individuals (changed oil poured into the sewer) what you saw in the '70s because people realize it's the wrong way to go about that. We can't control China, India or any of the others, and we are PRISTINE here compared to everywhere else. Nigeria dumps all their garbage on the beach. That's their dump. So the ocean fixes it, you know? India dumps it into the rivers, we just had a thread here. And China? You don't even want to know what China does. I'm not going to tell you because you'd have to take a couple days off protesting Trump to get hold of yourself.
But anyway, The United States is doing a hell of a job from an environmental standpoint. Nobody wants to mess shit up.
 
no fat chicks said:
First with Ronald Reagan triggering the 80s libs by taking down the Whitehouse solar panels and now Trump taking away basically every protection for the environment he can.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks.html

Can we return to a balance where our environment isn't a bi partisan issue?
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We can't. The left today is just about moving more and more to the left (obviously, I suppose). There'll be no middle ground anymore.
 
Btw, the GOP new green deal was FAR closer to reality than the one presented by democrats.

As usual, democrats are mostly talk on the issue.
 
PHATV said:
Here we go. We (US) are the best stewards of the planet on the planet. Just during my lifetime people (everyone) have become more educated and such as regards pollution overall. You don't see now from individuals (changed oil poured into the sewer) what you saw in the '70s because people realize it's the wrong way to go about that. We can't control China, India or any of the others, and we are PRISTINE here compared to everywhere else. Nigeria dumps all their garbage on the beach. That's their dump. So the ocean fixes it, you know? India dumps it into the rivers, we just had a thread here. And China? You don't even want to know what China does. I'm not going to tell you because you'd have to take a couple days off protesting Trump to get hold of yourself.
But anyway, The United States is doing a hell of a job from an environmental standpoint. Nobody wants to mess shit up.
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Patently false , the US with its relatively small population is the second largest polluter on the planet.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/all-the-worlds-carbon-emissions-in-one-chart/
 
bobgeese said:
Did you somehow miss the Tax reform, the booming economy and record numbers that followed?
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The tax cuts did nothing for the average working class American. Only in MAGA land are these people swimming in cash.

The rich, like always benefited the most. The economy has been going in the same trajectory for years now. Please stop lying for once in your life
 
bobgeese said:
Btw, the GOP new green deal was FAR closer to reality than the one presented by democrats.

As usual, democrats are mostly talk on the issue.
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Elaborate plz.
What does it do to handle climate change?
 
KONG-D'SNT-TAP said:
The tax cuts did nothing for the average working class American. Only in MAGA land are these people swimming in cash.

The rich, like always benefited the most. The economy has been going in the same trajectory for years now. Please stop lying for once in your life
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My investments are up.
 
KONG-D'SNT-TAP said:
The tax cuts did nothing for the average working class American. Only in MAGA land are these people swimming in cash.

The rich, like always benefited the most. The economy has been going in the same trajectory for years now. Please stop lying for once in your life
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you sound like someone out of the work force
 
KONG-D'SNT-TAP said:
The tax cuts did nothing for the average working class American. Only in MAGA land are these people swimming in cash.

The rich, like always benefited the most. The economy has been going in the same trajectory for years now. Please stop lying for once in your life
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This is all false.

A) the Dow was flat from July of 14 to Election Day.

B) Wages are rising higher for the bottom than the top.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/low-wage-workers-are-getting-bigger-raises-than-bosses/


Tax cuts and regulatory reform has led to the best numbers in our lifetime. My condolences.


PS, everyone with a job and a retirement account thinks you’re a dumbass.
 
second sight said:
you sound like someone out of the work force
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He has claimed to be a partner in 'some bars'

If you ask me, he's drinking in these bars and posting here, hence his bold claims all the time.
 
bobgeese said:
This is all false.

A) the Dow was flat from July of 14 to Election Day.

B) Wages are rising higher for the bottom than the top.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/low-wage-workers-are-getting-bigger-raises-than-bosses/


Tax cuts and regulatory reform has led to the best numbers in our lifetime. My condolences.


PS, everyone with a job and a retirement account thinks you’re a dumbass.
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The same working class Americans who can’t afford health insurance?

You guys are just blatantly lying right now. You’re not even trying anymore.

The fake economy is based on massive deficits that weren’t needed and will have to be paid back by the middle class.

Please stop being so dishonest
 
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