Social Dr. Sanjay Gupta backs up Trump's CDC director's claim the Virus was a lab escape

[MicroBrew]

https://www.mediaite.com/podcasts/t...rmed-theory-that-covid-leaked-from-wuhan-lab/

Interview link below
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-interview/id1527832549


- Back in March , former CDC director and virologist Dr. Robert Redfield, stated to CNN correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta that he belives the virus came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. He didn't have direct evidence, so this was just his professional opinion.

- Dr. Redfield was attacked for saying this.

- Well recently Dr. Sanjay Gupta gave an interview on Mediate.

- In the Mediate interview, Dr. Gupta says Dr. Redfied's opinion is an informed opinion.

“He’s an experienced virologist. He was also head of the CDC at the time this was happening, which means that in addition to everything that we know, he had access to raw data and raw intelligence that was coming out of China,” Gupta told me. “My point is that it’s a much more informed sort of thing for him to be saying than for anybody who may have expertise in virology, because he has a lot more knowledge and information that he has that maybe he can’t share, but is informing his opinion.”

Gupta said he offered Redfield opportunities to hedge his opinion, but that the former CDC director “really was quite adamant that this was the origin of the virus.”

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Dr. Gupta's comments also leans towards believing this was a lab escape.

“There’s reason to suspect that this is the origin of the virus,” Gupta said, pointing out the flaws in the predominant theory that it came from a wet market.


“It’s a big virology lab right in Wuhan that happened to be studying bat coronaviruses. Just from an Occam’s razor standpoint, finding the simplest explanation, it would make sense,” he said, adding, “We still don’t know for certain what the origin is.”

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@panamaican the reason I didn't make this post in the other thread by @DespicablePeep is because this thread is narrowly focused on Sanjay Gupta's comments, while the other thread is more broadly a criticism of academic community rushing to claim the virus was a natural spill over. These comments from Gupta would just get lost if I had made it in that thread.

 

[Proud American]

It did. This weaponized demon strain is only beginning to mutate as well, which it was designed to do.

China gets by with this crime because either the globalists in charge of the west wanted the powers the pandemic gave them and want the deaths, or bc the globalists don’t want anger at China, Bc their business dealings with China would be ruined.

it’s beyond absurd that China is let off the hook.

 

[Fluffernutter]

Gupta was asked to be Obama's surgeon general. But he declined.

I am not sure why I added this to the thread.

Anywho, happy mothers' day everyone!

 

[DoctorPablo]

Gupta was asked to be Obama's surgeon general. But he declined.

I am not sure why I added this to the thread.

Anywho, happy mothers' day everyone!

Happy birthing persons’ day, bigot.

 

[Renard]

We live in a society where being open-minded about something we don't have certainty for is "controversial." We don't know where it came from; everything is possible. Excluding politically-inconvenient explanations a priori is nonscientific. Don't let yourself believe that we live in a society that's better or more enlightened than in the past, dogma rules and most people are NPCs who think and act as they're told. Whatever is on the TV has a direct line to their thoughts and emotions - 0 critical thinking to filter any of it.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

as far as i can tell this notion is not really far fetched at all. a number of virologists have speculated this could be the case. one reason given is that the virus gets worse as it mutates and that is not common with natural viruses.

there were a couple of virologists on bill mahers show talking about this possibility some time ago.

if you say it DID originate in a lab in china without qualification the you are irresponsible but there is nothing wrong with saying that you think it did.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Well uh, yeah. If you have a common sense level understanding of probability and general science, this has been the obvious extremely, extremely likely scenario from the beginning.

The scientifically illiterate childish leftists in here call me names for thee most common sense positions that nearly always end up being validated. They should probably wake up and stop.

 

[MicroBrew]

as far as i can tell this notion is not really far fetched at all. a number of virologists have speculated this could be the case. one reason given is that the virus gets worse as it mutates and that is not common with natural viruses.

there were a couple of virologists on bill mahers show talking about this possibility some time ago.

if you say it DID originate in a lab in china without qualification the you are irresponsible but there is nothing wrong with saying that you think it did.

And the thread by @DespicablePeep features an article in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists that criticizes the rush to judgement by many in the Scientific community to dismiss the lab theory. The person responsbile for drafting the article in The Lancet that denounced the lab theories is directly linked to the Wuhan Inst. of Virology, but the Lancet lied and said there was no conflict of interest.

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/nicholas-wade-article-on-the-origin-of-sarscov2.4182327/

 

[Amerikuracana]

And the thread by @DespicablePeep features an article in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists that criticizes the rush to judgement by many in the Scientific community to dismiss the lab theory. The person responsbile for drafting the article in The Lancet that denounced the lab theories is directly linked to the Wuhan Inst. of Virology, but the Lancet lied and said there was no conflict of interest.

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/nicholas-wade-article-on-the-origin-of-sarscov2.4182327/

It was an immediate infection of politics into reason, common sense, and science. 3 of the 4 major things politics kills.

Religion/faith is my 4th.

 

[D3THRONED]

and water is wet. of course it leaked from the lab.

 

[HereticBD]

Has CNN parted ways with him yet?

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

People are afraid of getting labeled racist, xenophobic or worse...losing funding from China for offering that opinion.

It just makes sense. You have a viral lab studying and manipulating coronaviruses blocks away from the first reported cases and epicenter of COVID-19. The virus itself is highly contagious and has bizarre characteristics. It also seemingly doesn't affect kids. It's almost like it was manipulated.

This doesn't mean that it was a bio weapon or intentional. It just means that the virus escaped the lab. it could have been as simple as one of the lab workers getting infected or having a contaminated item on them. Why this can't be discussed and proposed is ridiculous. The wet market hypothesis has no evidence either but people freely talked about that for months. Like the lab hypothesis, it just made sense. You had a market with exotic animals stacked on top of each other pissing and shitting, being slaughtered and 100s if not 1000s of humans in close contact. It's a disease factory.

Still, no animal has yet to have been found that could have been the carrier and bats were not sold at the wet market. The lab leak hypothesis seems to be a more likely scenario. Not to mention, that same lab was cited for security/safety violations not that long ago.

I see no evidence that it was intentional though. China would have every country on Earth as its enemy if it was intentional. They had a tainted milk case years back that killed babies and it was a national embarrassment. They ended up executing everyone involved. If it was a lab leak, it's another worldwide embarrassment and something they aren't going to want out.

 

[Ophydian]

It did. This weaponized demon strain is only beginning to mutate as well, which it was designed to do.

China gets by with this crime because either the globalists in charge of the west wanted the powers the pandemic gave them and want the deaths, or bc the globalists don’t want anger at China, Bc their business dealings with China would be ruined.

it’s beyond absurd that China is let off the hook.

Weaponized demon strain. Holy fuck listen to yourself. Also, genius, viruses mutate on their own. They don’t have to be designed to.

 

[Proud American]

Weaponized demon strain. Holy fuck listen to yourself. Also, genius, viruses mutate on their own. They don’t have to be designed to.

Lol yes, that term gets the point across.

and mutate As much as this one already has?

this disease was create to be able to spread exceptionally well. That doesn’t happen with brand new natural diseases. They haven’t had time to evolve the ability to spread well.

 

[GoldenWolf87]

It did. This weaponized demon strain is only beginning to mutate as well, which it was designed to do.

China gets by with this crime because either the globalists in charge of the west wanted the powers the pandemic gave them and want the deaths, or bc the globalists don’t want anger at China, Bc their business dealings with China would be ruined.

it’s beyond absurd that China is let off the hook.

When Trump was prez people were called CTs by the media for even just mentioning it or making a theory on it.
Some in the media did articles claiming that this was a dangerous slope discussion.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Happy birthing persons’ day, bigot.

Happy mothers and Arnold Schwarzenegger day everyone!

 

[Amerikuracana]

When Trump was prez people were called CTs by the media for even just mentioning it or making a theory on it.
Some in the media did articles claiming that this was a dangerous slope discussion.

It was another “big lie” from cnn, as they deflect and accuse others of “big lies.” It’s super offensive propaganda and the people that work there are visibly anxious about what they’ve been doing. Liars.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Well uh, yeah. If you have a common sense level understanding of probability and general science, this has been the obvious extremely, extremely likely scenario from the beginning.

The scientifically illiterate childish leftists in here call me names for thee most common sense positions that nearly always end up being validated. They should probably wake up and stop.

Even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day.

 

[HOLA]

Politico did a story on this about a month ago.

The statement said the U.S. intelligence community had evidence that several researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology laboratory were sick with Covid-like symptoms in autumn 2019—implying the Chinese government had hidden crucial information about the outbreak for months—and that the WIV lab, despite “presenting itself as a civilian institution,” was conducting secret research projects with the Chinese military. The State Department alleged a Chinese government cover-up and asserted that “Beijing continues today to withhold vital information that scientists need to protect the world from this deadly virus, and the next one.”

The exact origin of the new coronavirus remains a mystery to this day, but the search for answers is not just about assigning blame. Unless the source is located, the true path of the virus can’t be traced, and scientists can’t properly study the best ways to prevent future outbreaks.

The original Chinese government story, that the pandemic spread from a seafood market in Wuhan, was the first and therefore most widely accepted theory. But cracks in that theory slowly emerged throughout the late winter and spring of 2020. The first known case of Covid-19 in Wuhan, it was revealed in February, had no connection to the market. The Chinese government closed the market in January and sanitized it before proper samples could be taken. It wouldn’t be until May that the Chinese Centers for Disease Control disavowed the market theory, admitting it had no idea how the outbreak began, but by then it had become the story of record, in China and internationally.

https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...os-under-heaven-wuhan-lab-book-excerpt-474322

 

[Skarr]

there has been quite a few people saying all this from the very start and if the majority of sheeple wouldnt jump on everyone with information that doesnt fit their narrative as CTers ..... we could have more nice things, now that this CNN cockpuppet is saying it though.....now its something to believe! lol I guess better late than never eh?