Does giving everyone on CS a contract have a purpose?

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Dana's Conscience

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I don't really think that Dana's just a lot easier to please these days. That Russian guy who gassed and got a boring decision despite being a -1000 favorite did NOT deserve a contract. Here are my theories.

1. Dana wants to avoid another Brendan Loughnane situation, so he just signs everyone to ensure that someone doesn't slip through the cracks.

2. Kind of going off #1, Dana simply wants to reduce the amount of potentially elite talent available for PFL to sign.

3. UFC needs a bloated roster to fill out all of their crappy apex cards. Supporting this theory is the fact that they literally don't cut anyone who's willing to fight at a moment's notice for 12/12, even if they clearly don't belong. For example, J.P. Buys is 0-4 in the UFC, has lost his past two fights by first round knockout, yet he still hasn't been cut.

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Cheap new talent, he gets to scoop them before they reach Bellator or PFL, he can cut them if they dont do well anyway, there is always room for new fighers in the prelims, the UFC has to put a show almost every week.
 
I think the 8-0 dude deserved one. He gassed because he was throwing big shit trying to finish the fight and ran into a dude with a great chin. There's LHWs he can beat on the roster.

Now why he gave Medina a contract is a mystery.
 
I remember when Than Le won by head kick KO and Dana didn't sign him and he went on to become One champ
 
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Dana's Conscience said:
I don't really think that Dana's just a lot easier to please these days. That Russian guy who gassed and got a boring decision despite being a -1000 favorite did NOT deserve a contract. Here are my theories.

1. Dana wants to avoid another Brendan Loughnane situation, so he just signs everyone to ensure that someone doesn't slip through the cracks.

2. Kind of going off #1, Dana simply wants to reduce the amount of potentially elite talent available for PFL to sign.

3. UFC needs a bloated roster to fill out all of their crappy apex cards. Supporting this theory is the fact that they literally don't cut anyone who's willing to fight at a moment's notice for 12/12, even if they clearly don't belong. For example, J.P. Buys is 0-4 in the UFC, has lost his past two fights by first round knockout, yet he still hasn't been cut.

Thoughts?
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For success, I think they need the four things:

1. Promotion based fame. That is why the Dana White persona and branding exists. Popular fighters can lose ability and then fame at any second. But, if a mouth piece (Dana) is famous, that adds stability since he has no fights to lose.

2. Star fighters. From a business perspective it's ok if they're paid well.

3. Potential upcoming stars. From a business perspective it is ok if they are one day paid well.

4. A lot of filler talent to get beat up or pad the run time. From a business perspective, they are replaceable, so low pay.

Those are probably the driving points for decisions made.
 
It does make the episode more enjoyable, but in the long run, I'm not a fan of it. It waters down cards. I call myself a "hardcore" but these days, it's common to not recognize someone until they've had 3 fights with the promotion, so it literally makes the sport harder to follow and that's frustrating. But eventually, only the strong will survive and I fully anticipate the sport becoming a lot more enjoyable when that happens. There will always be "weak links," but the ones of today are generally better than the ones of "a couple years ago."
 
Yes. Having a bunch of people hungry for a cheap as dirt contract despite being signed to he "premiere MMA organization in the world". It's just normal for UFC fighters to still have "regular" jobs while fighting.
 
jk7707 said:
Yes. Having a bunch of people hungry for a cheap as dirt contract despite being signed to he "premiere MMA organization in the world". It's just normal for UFC fighters to still have "regular" jobs while fighting.
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I see them in tears after they get a contract and have to wonder if delusion plays a role. If you're like 90% of the roster, you get brain damage in order to earn less than what most plumbers make.
 
Dana's Conscience said:
I don't really think that Dana's just a lot easier to please these days. That Russian guy who gassed and got a boring decision despite being a -1000 favorite did NOT deserve a contract. Here are my theories.

1. Dana wants to avoid another Brendan Loughnane situation, so he just signs everyone to ensure that someone doesn't slip through the cracks.

2. Kind of going off #1, Dana simply wants to reduce the amount of potentially elite talent available for PFL to sign.

3. UFC needs a bloated roster to fill out all of their crappy apex cards. Supporting this theory is the fact that they literally don't cut anyone who's willing to fight at a moment's notice for 12/12, even if they clearly don't belong. For example, J.P. Buys is 0-4 in the UFC, has lost his past two fights by first round knockout, yet he still hasn't been cut.

Thoughts?
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Its the respectful thing to do for these fighters who are taking paycuts, in most cases, to fight on ESPN+ in the hopes of making it to the UFC. I don't understand why fans complain about this and it feels very much like folks are complaining just so they have something to bitch about.

The Russian guy you are referring too is very clearly UFC quality and just had the misfortune of being booked against a uniquely durable opponent. He showed an improved comfortability with throwing his hands and theres no reason to believe he won't continue to improve so of course they are going to sign him.
 
He's getting free fights off of guys, and making money off of it, and then offering them undoubtedly shitty contracts.
 
Local Plata said:
Yeah, so after taxes, travel, training, incidentals ... they are basically fighting for free. Lmao.
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I doubt you get taxed on that much unless you're earning over the threshold elsewhere. UFC covers travel. At least it's better than fighting three times for free on TUF.
 
Dana's Conscience said:
I see them in tears after they get a contract and have to wonder if delusion plays a role. If you're like 90% of the roster, you get brain damage in order to earn less than what most plumbers make.
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U have no idea how much UFC fighters make
 
Professional fighters are pretty low on the intelligence/value to society spectrum. At this point you need to have no other options in life to want or need to fight in the UFC.

If you need to fight in the UFC to provide for a family, you shouldn't be having one. Same as the majority of fans.
 
BEATDOWNS said:
I gave up after the third week it's a joke.
And the ones that don't get contracts just st end up on UFC cards anyway
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I remember back in the day where you didn't really know if someone would get signed or not. Let a few clearly UFC ready fighters go like Loughnane and Sabatello.
 
I seen a few posters saying this is so dana grabs the talent before they go to pfl. But are these guys really the best regional or best talent just starting?? It seems like I tend to agree more with the notion ufc is just signing a lot of these guys to fill their quota of cards required by espn.
 
dildos said:
I seen a few posters saying this is so dana grabs the talent before they go to pfl. But are these guys really the best regional or best talent just starting?? It seems like I tend to agree more with the notion ufc is just signing a lot of these guys to fill their quota of cards required by espn.
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Regional wise generally yes. They've had multiple regional champions on this season.
 
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