Does 20lbs really make a difference?

[BrunswickMAF]

A few days ago I made a thread about MM being the greatest champion ever if he beat Silva's record of longest title defense streak. A lot of the responses were about how 125 shouldn't be compared to 185 and how "manlets" aren't interesting and people don't find them exciting.

I don't understand why 145 is clearly a division that people are interested in but two weight classes (20lbs) below is not viewed that way. Obviously there's more drama at FW right now but the sentiment around sherdog seems to be that size matters for importance of a fight.

My question is, Is it really about the size of the fighters? If so, does 20 lbs really make a difference?

 

[cityofevil]

Yes. Go wrestle someone 20 lbs lighter than you, and see how much it helps.

 

[vkram]

It makes a difference until a certain point, which is about 205 lbs, IMO.

 

[snw10mm]

somebody on these forums said "I don't like watching insects fight." I still think of that quote when I see the 25ers.

 

[DarthChen731]

If they added a 115 men's division people would suddenly stop hating the 125ers so much.

Spoiler

Not that I'm saying they should

 

[joeyjoejoe]

Well they do call the heavyweight champion the baddest man on earth.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Yes

 

[BrunswickMAF]

Yes. Go wrestle someone 20 lbs lighter than you, and see how much it helps.

That's not what I was saying. I'm saying in regards to wanting to watch a fight. People are interested in 145 but not 125 and the reason given is often the size of the fighters. Does 20 lbs make a difference to you when WATCHING a fight?

 

[SlicerDM]

A Flyweight with the skill set of Aldo smashes MM.

Anti Wrestler > Wrestler

Seeing as Aldo is the worst stylistic matchup for about 3 or 4 of the UFC's Champions.

 

[BrunswickMAF]

Well they do call the heavyweight champion the baddest man on earth.

Exactly they say that the heavier weight classes are more interesting. Which is nonsense since historically in UFC HW is the shallowest in terms of talent.

That being said, is the current complaint about 125 the size of the fighters or the excitement of the fighters?

 

[Dream Evil]

Two random guys on the street, I wouldn't call 20 lbs a significant size advantage. At the highest levels of competition, absolutely it is.

 

[accolyte1022]

somebody on these forums said "I don't like watching insects fight." I still think of that quote when I see the 25ers.

 

[snw10mm]

Two random guys on the street, I wouldn't call 20 lbs a significant size advantage. At the highest levels of competition, absolutely it is.

You are missing the point of TS' s question. He is saying that if 145ers are so fun to watch, why arent the 125'ers just as popular to watch, given that they only weigh 20 pounds less.

 

[BrunswickMAF]

Two random guys on the street, I wouldn't call 20 lbs a significant size advantage. At the highest levels of competition, absolutely it is.

I'm talking about the interest level of fights at 145 vs. 125. not watching fighters from 145 and 125 fight each other at a mismatched weight

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

That's not what I was saying. I'm saying in regards to wanting to watch a fight. People are interested in 145 but not 125 and the reason given is often the size of the fighters. Does 20 lbs make a difference to you when WATCHING a fight?

yes, they look funny in relation to the cage and ref. Also lack KO power

 

[JoshR86]

I'm talking about the interest level of fights at 145 vs. 125. not watching fighters from 145 and 125 fight each other at a mismatched weight

145 isn't interesting, Conor is, Aldo has kept the division in the dark ages with being the Most unmarketable champion in the UFC, it's like he goes out of his way to not be marketed. He's had big names ad challengers like Faber, and Frankie, but once Conor leaves the division will be kust like the 125lb division

 

[badchad]

Yes, 20 lbs makes a difference. Its why everyone hates 125, but not 145.

 

[csroster]

I just magically increased your muscle by 20lbs without any drop off in athleticism.

Did it make a difference?

 

[cade187]

At the end of the day, people want to see the grown ups fight. The 125 division is, how you say, "cute."

 

[vkram]

Because 125ers rarely finish fights.