Do you see Munoz with an upset against Vera?

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Wouldn't be the upset of the decade that's for sure, but I still see Vera as a clear level above Munoz in the division.

However a 3 round Marlon Vera fight scares me. He's such a slow starter, I could see Munoz taking the first 2 rounds and weathering a hurricane in round 3 to run away with a decision

How do you lads see it?
 
Same way. I really like munhoz at these odds.

I think he wins rounds by being more active and avoiding the big shots from Chito.
 
Chito is good not great. I don't see him as a strong favorite IMO. I think this fight could easily go either way.
 
Munhoz seems to have a good chin but taking shots from Verá for 15 mins isn't smart, if he can pick him apart Munhoz have a chance but he also is very short.
 
I think Chito is incredibly overrated. He was underrated and relatively untalked about before the O’Malley fight, and now he’s overrated.


No disrespect but beating Edgar and Cruz at this stage meant very little and he was losing both fights until he wasn’t, same with font to a lesser extent.

It’s a 50/50 fight which I think Pedro can win an ugly 29-28 by landing a few timely takedowns and having more output though lower accuracy.
 
With all the talk from O’Malley that if he wins the belt he wants to defend against Chito for his first defence. That has to give Chito extra motivation to win this fight.

I’m taking Chito by decision. But it’s definitely not a sure thing.
 
We definitely have a decision on our hands

2 point fighters that are durable

Vera has lost the first round in almost every fight - even his wins …. He starts slow and his volume
Is pretty bad too

even in his wins he got outstruck by big margins …. Even his win over Font he was outstruck by liek 80 strikes …. He only won caz big moments (dropping Rob multiple times)

Vera is the moment winner and munhoz probably the minute winner …. And munhoz should
Have the chin to not get dropped

So in a fight that’s destined to be a decision …. I’d stab the huge dog in munhoz …. No world vEra should be a -300 favorite - it’s more of a pick’em imo
 
I think Chito is incredibly overrated. He was underrated and relatively untalked about before the O’Malley fight, and now he’s overrated.


No disrespect but beating Edgar and Cruz at this stage meant very little and he was losing both fights until he wasn’t, same with font to a lesser extent.

It’s a 50/50 fight which I think Pedro can win an ugly 29-28 by landing a few timely takedowns and having more output though lower accuracy.

100% this.

Chito was getting handled by Edgar until Edgar slowed and Chito finally caught him.

Cruz was styling on him until he got caught.

Font was boxing his ears in for the entire fight outside of the timely big shots that Chito landed in each rounds to win them.
 
Munhoz has a ton of mma miles on his body. He still gets around but has lost his "oomph"
 
100% this.

Chito was getting handled by Edgar until Edgar slowed and Chito finally caught him.

Cruz was styling on him until he got caught.

Font was boxing his ears in for the entire fight outside of the timely big shots that Chito landed in each rounds to win them.

So you would say he was losing till he won? ;)

that’s just his style, take your best shots then kick your ass
Part of the game is being able to take shots and being able to dish it back out
 
So you would say he was losing till he won? ;)

that’s just his style, take your best shots then kick your ass
Part of the game is being able to take shots and being able to dish it back out

In Chito's case, that's exactly what he does haha.

I think he's had some matchups that really allowed him to get away with that stuff.

Edgar had been getting KOd by everyone and was washed. Cruz just isn't what he was. Font doesn't have a great chin, Suga has had leg injuries before, etc.

I do like Chito, but man, he just goes about this thing differently than most lol.
 
I'm also backing Munhoz. Not super confident, but I like him as an underdog here. Ask me this same question a year ago and I would have laughed and told you that Pedro was totally washed while Chito was surging and borderline elite. But I don't believe either of those things anymore. Pedro's ability to go tit-for-tat with a younger, fresher technical kickboxer in Gutierrez who was on a streak with momentum said a lot to me. I think him being a generally fast starter will actually be to his advantage here: he'll come out, secure the first two rounds by simply being more active than Chito, and then weather the storm late. He can play the leg kick game with Vera and also hits quite hard himself and is willing to brawl when necessary. Chito's willingness to give up the first round isn't a huge deal in Main Events, but it is a massive liability in a three-round fight and I don't know that he will be able to dig himself out of that hole if he does it yet again here. After all, Pedro's chin is legendary. He seems practically impossible to wobble, let alone drop or KO -- so Vera's staple tactic of falling behind and then finding the big moment late is by no means something to be relied upon here.

As an aside, Pedro is in my estimation the one who's more likely to initiate the grappling here. He shot takedowns on Garbrandt, Cruz, and Gutierrez. Vera has the worst takedown defense and get-ups of anyone in the Top 10, so even if Munhoz isn't that great of a wrestler I would wager that the chances of him getting Chito down aren't all that small -- to say nothing of the chances of it ending up on the mat via a slip, caught kick, or some other weird occurrence. And once it's there... Pedro is the much better grappler and can probably bank a round for himself.

So you would say he was losing till he won? ;)

that’s just his style, take your best shots then kick your ass
Part of the game is being able to take shots and being able to dish it back out

Look, I will always credit Chito for the timing, accuracy, patience, power, and toughness that he clearly possesses to win fights in spite of the deficiencies in his style/skill set. But there's really no getting around the fact that willfully getting behind on volume and activity and seemingly going out of one's way to cede the first round of every contest you partake in is not a particularly tenable strategy at the elite level of MMA. This is putting aside the massive holes which exist in his defensive wrestling.
 
Very possible.

Vera is a notoriously slow starter, and this is only 3 rounds.

Vera usually is losing until he wins, Munhoz has a hell of a chin, and great kicks.

He wont put Pedro away easily.
 
Some great analysis in here. With all the jokes and immature behavior on here, sometimes i forget we actually watch this sport very intently. Cheers sherbros.
 
muhnoz can literally win just by kicking at vera’s legs for 2 rounds while he just stands there
 
I like Munhoz and think Chito is mediocre at best, but don’t think Pedro gets it done. Not sure how he’s even still in the top 10, considering he’s 2-4-1 in his last seven fights.
 
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