Do you consider vaseline cheaters to be in the GOAT talks?

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I'm just gonna go straight into it. I believe that people who feel the need to cheat with vaseline to beat smaller fighters should not be included in any GOAT conversation as to who is best after Jones, Fedor and Silva and DC, and should be punished. hbu?
 
i think its alright because I think PEDs give you a bigger advantage overall

if we discount all the different ways to cheat then the only person left in the running would be BJ Penn!
 
George will never live down greasegate lol. Less than 2 minutes till wastelanded.
 
Fedor cheated by grabbing ring ropes. DC cheated with a towel at weigh ins. Jones and Silva cheated with PEDs and blamed dick pills. Jones also has broken most fighting rules. BJ Penn had an illegal IV. Conor hit Khabib with illegal knees.

I guess Artem Lobov is the GOAT.
 
1. Vaseline was directly applied to crucial areas of St. Pierre's body

2. Penn is an expert Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, who relies on grips/holds to defend and to submit.

3. It is illegal to apply greasing agents to anywhere on the body besides the face. Plain and simple.

Georges St. Pierre broke the rules. This is also known as cheating.


 
1. Vaseline was directly applied to crucial areas of St. Pierre's body

2. Penn is an expert Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, who relies on grips/holds to defend and to submit.

3. It is illegal to apply greasing agents to anywhere on the body besides the face. Plain and simple.

Georges St. Pierre broke the rules. This is also known as cheating.



Since when is BJ "known for the guard position"? Who made that video? Yeah, he can use rubber guard and control posture with his freakish arm-leg dexterity and flexibility, but does he have one single sub from guard?
 
I'm just gonna go straight into it. I believe that people who feel the need to cheat with vaseline to beat smaller fighters should not be included in any GOAT conversation as to who is best after Jones, Fedor and Silva and DC, and should be punished. hbu?
Why are you so obsessed with hating one fighter?
 
All the GSP hate trolls showing up in this thread
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Jones and Anderson have FAILED steriod tests and need dick pills

Fedor and Aldo are only other runners in the GOAT debate
 
Hahahahahaha. Who's the mod that wastelands every thread that exposes GSP?

Biggest nuthugger in Sherdog.
Exposes?
He has beat every single fighter he has faced! He just happen to beat some worse than others, such as hyped up BJ Penn, and it bothers some people who bought the hype.

BJ Penn was good fighter, but a one round fighter. The only guy he could beat at 170 was Hughes, that was a matchup issue.
 
Just want to comment that a thread talking about how Sherdog was a GSP fan "sanctuary" was deleted. Not wastelanded, nope deleted. Cause no better way to prove people wrong that you don't play favorites than by.....playing favorites.

Probably several hundred people every day call Jones an expletive on Sherdog and are allowed to accuse a fighter of cheating for fights where they tested negative. But GSP just talking about his fans reactions to the idea their fav isn't the GOAT is fighter bashing and needs to be purged.
 
Grease did not change the outcome of that fight. Bj had nothing for GSP grease or not
 
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