Defending kimura sweep from top side control???

[EatMyShorts]

I know how to do it from half guard - grip hands together and lever them inwards - works like a reverse kimura.

Tried this to defend the side control based one - dude would spin to north south holding the lock, then somehow recovered guard or some shit.

It's gotta be pretty straight forward.

How do it??

Impart to me this divine information.

 

[The Thrill]

so youre on top? either hop around to a farside armbar (matt hughes-GSP 1) or bodylock as youre passing guard


if youre a strong guy, deadlift it straight up in the air to get that reverse kimura youre talking about


the best answer is probably to get a crossface as youre passing

 

[EndlessCritic]

so youre on top? either hop around to a farside armbar (matt hughes-GSP 1) or bodylock as youre passing guard


if youre a strong guy, deadlift it straight up in the air to get that reverse kimura youre talking about


the best answer is probably to get a crossface as youre passing

No not necessarily. This is generally what the OP is describing:

 

[The Thrill]

i know, thats one of my go-to moves haha

 

[mataleaos]

This is one of my go-tos and honestly it's very hard to stop once they get the grip.

It may sound crazy but putting yourself back into half guard can help. So if I lock it from bottom half then I want you to try to clear my guard so I can spin. I can't really spin if your leg is still in my half guard. Obviously if you put yourself back into half guard then you're more vulnerable for the old school style wrenching the kimura behind your back, but I also think that one is much easier to defend.

You can also try stepping over your own trapped hand/wrist but sometimes the person on bottom still has the leverage to press the grip into you and spin.

The bodylock also causes me a lot of problems when I'm trying to do this kimura sweep/back take on people, and it's probably the defense I use the most when I'm on top and someone tries it on me. I just hug the waist and try to cook them for a bit until they let go.

 

[goatfury]

This might also help:

https://howtheyplay.com/individual-...rom-the-Kimura-and-the-Reverse-a-BJJ-Tutorial

or

https://howtheyplay.com/individual-...-from-the-bottom-with-a-Kimura-a-BJJ-Tutorial

 

[EatMyShorts]

No not necessarily. This is generally what the OP is describing:

Precisely.

I like the posture-up one.
Gonna try that.

Dead lift him up, basically.

I was doing that initially from half guard, but he could get armbar counter from the bottom.
The lever-inwards counter works much better from half guard.

But maybe the posture directly up will work from side control.

I gues I'll find out.

 

[MaxMMA]

Far side armbar works well, but I like to just uppercut the arm that's in danger.

You have to shoot that arm up before they get the kimura really set, they can either let go, or get kimura'd by the movement themselves.

 

[georgegreece]

If you roll from this position what happens?

 

[EatMyShorts]

Far side armbar works well, but I like to just uppercut the arm that's in danger.

You have to shoot that arm up before they get the kimura really set, they can either let go, or get kimura'd by the movement themselves.

When you say uppercut the trapped arm - which direction?

As in, the fist across your body, your same side?

Any vids to that effect?

 

[MaxMMA]

When you say uppercut the trapped arm - which direction?

As in, the fist across your body, your same side?

Any vids to that effect?

Upper cut to the ceiling.

 

[EatMyShorts]

Upper cut to the ceiling.

Oh yeah - that's what I was saying I can apply from half guard.

But from side control the guy can just spin as in the vid above.....

Definition for how to defend it from top side control remains elusive.

 

[MaxMMA]

Oh yeah - that's what I was saying I can apply from half guard.

But from side control the guy can just spin as in the vid above.....

Definition for how to defend it from top side control remains elusive.

You can uppercut out from side control top just as easy... what are we missing here?

 

[georgegreece]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kimura+reversal+top+side

 

[Deleted member 429137]

Spin to farside armbar. Sakuraba vs Conan at UFC Japan.

 

[Kaffe]

People trying far side armbar against guys who know how to anchor the kimura are essentially sweeping themselves.

 

[Ice 9 Cobra]

I would pin their knee down with my leg (like half guard, only your knee in between they legs shin on their thigh, ankle on the outside), then posture and pull against their grip while rotating your hand towards their hips. Depending upon the level of respect I'm giving them, I might leg weave the free arm while doing this.

 

[MilesP4P]

I dont have a general escape that I want to share, but what seemed to help me was a change in perspective.

In my train of thought it is much easier to prevent a submission rather then defend one.

Once you see your opponent gets a grip on your wrist, before they can even reach over and try to lace their second arm around yours in order to attack the kimura, you should be fighting the grip they have on your wrist.
Simply performing a wrist roll (thats what we call it in my high school wrestling) is enough to free your wrist from most people grip thus preventing them from even being able to attempt to attack the kimura.

All in all, I guess I am saying look to rather prevent the submission instead of escaping it...just two cents from my mental vault lol.

 

[Ice 9 Cobra]

A wrist roll alone won't stop a kimura.