Deconstructing MMA Myths... [Part 29] - BJ Penn, The Frontrunner...

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MYTH : BJ was always a frontrunner, could never overcome 'adversity' to win a fight...

Keyword here is obviously 'adversity'.
Could BJ weather the storm & rally to make it competitive in the final rounds, or was he indeed a 'perennial' frontrunner?
In BJ´s case, 'adversity' had more to do with his conditionning in the championships rounds, and his mental reaction when he couldnt get the TD/Top Control.
It was indeed not so much about him bein´hurt or somethin´...

4 cases...

1/ BJ vs Jens Pulver 1:

Org.: UFC 35 [2002]
Fight Configuration:
> Cage
> 5 x 5 mns Rd.
Weight Class: LW
Result: BJ Dec. Loss (Majority: 48-45/48-47/47-47)

Technical Assessment of the Fight:

> The 1st Rd was pretty competitive:
BJ arguably won the 1st half, gettin´the fight to the ground:
Ground Control BJ = 2mn10s
But Pulver managed to get back to his feet, got trapped in a standin´guillotine but slammed BJ on the ground.
Ground Control Pulver 1 = 1mn40s

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After a stand-up call by the Ref., Pulver started to put pressure on BJ, who looked hesitant and chose to pull guard [out of nowhere...]
Ground Control Pulver 2 = 1mn

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> Overall, BJ was arguably dominated by the end of the Round, physically and even mentally, potentially...

> But... BJ did rally in the 2nd Rd:
Got the TD:
Ground Control BJ 1 = 1mn55s
Pulver escaped, only to get taken down again:
Ground Control BJ 2 = 2mn20s

Decisive Sequence:
Pulver was arguably saved by the bell, armbar locked.

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> In the next Rd, BJ couldnt implement his gameplan, failed to take Pulver down, got reversed and dominated:
Ground Control Pulver 1 = 1mn50s
After another failed TD attempt:
Ground Control Pulver 2 = 1mn20s

> Overall, BJ was clearly windin´down in this 3rd Round.

> In the 4th Rd, BJ got reversed again after a failed TD attempt:
Ground Control Pulver 1 = 1mn25s
BJ escaped, and managed to take Pulver down:
Ground Control BJ = 20s
Reversed again:
Ground Control Pulver 2 = 40s
After a stand-up call by the Ref., BJ appeared much more active and landed the crisper punches in the last 2 mns.

> Overall, BJ did rally in this Round and made it competitive.

> Final Rd: they went toe-2-toe, both scorin´with counter- punches mainly.
Pulver had the crisper shots, the best combo at the end of the Round, and BJ landed a low blow.

> Overall, a competitive Round, arguably won by Pulver.

OVERALL: a competitive fight, especially on the feet, while Pulver had more Ground Control.
BJ did rally in the final rounds and made it competitive.



2/ BJ vs Caol Uno 2:

Org.: UFC 41 [2003]
Fight Configuration:
> Cage
> 5 x 5 mns Rd.
Weight Class: LW
Result: Draw [48-46/47-48/48-48]

Technical Assessment of the Fight:

> BJ arguably won the 1st Rd:
Took Caol down, and even got his back.
Ground Control BJ 1 = 1mn20s
Caol escaped, but BJ took him down again, and got his back again.
Ground Control BJ 2 = 1mn40s

> In the 2nd Rd, Caol was more active, bouncin´, usin´ more kicks.
Mixin´it up, Caol took BJ down twice in this round:
Ground Control Caol 1 = 50s
Ground Control Caol 2 = 30s


> Again in the 3rd Rd, Caol managed to take BJ down:
Ground Control Caol 1 = 1mn
BJ did take Caol down, even got briefly his back, but got reversed.
Ground Control BJ = 25s
Caol ended the Round on top, with some decent GNP.
Ground Control Caol 2 = 45s

At that point, BJ was arguably down on the scorecards, 2 Rds to 1.

> But he rallied in the 4th:

Took Caol down, got his back again.
Ground Control BJ 1 = 1mn20s
...but was reversed again:
Ground Control Caol = 50s
BJ escaped, then took Caol down again (and again got his back briefly):
Ground Control BJ 2 = 25s
At the end of the Rd, BJ took Caol down again:
Ground Control BJ 3 = 3s

> Overall, BJ was more active in this Rd, with crisper punches and more Ground Control.

> The final Round was pretty tough to score, both goin´toe-2-toe.

> Cant post these 15 Gifs here in the OP, so look for them in the 2nd/3rd post of this thread.


3/ BJ vs Takanori Gomi:

Org.: K-1 Rumble on the Rock 4 [2003]
Fight Configuration:
> Cage
> 5 x 5 mns Rd.
Weight Class: LW
Result: BJ Win [RNC, 3rd Rd]

Technical Assessment of the Fight:

> BJ arguably won the 1st Rd:
Took Gomi down quickly and even got his back.
Ground Control BJ 1 = 2mn40s
Then Gomi reversed him:
Ground Control Gomi = 1mn05s
BJ escaped, got back to his feet, and took Gomi down again (& got his back again):
Ground Control BJ 2 = 1mn02s

> Then BJ began to lose the momentum in the 2nd Rd (with Gomi stuffing [4] TDs and connecting with jabz)...
This Rd had BJ clearly windin´down and somehow clueless about how to implement his gameplan.

bj gomi 1.gif bj gomi 4.gif

> Finally, BJ took him down pretty quickly in the 3rd and secured the RNC.


4/ BJ vs Lyoto Machida:

Org.: K-1: Hero's 1 [2005]
Fight Configuration:
> Ring
> 3 x 5 mns Rd.
Weight Class: OW [191 lbs vs 225 lbs]
[Note: BJ asked for Fujita 1st (!)]
Result: BJ Dec. Loss

Technical Assessment of the Fight:

> BJ was game in the 1st Rd: more aggressive, literally stalkin´ Machida.
After a failed trip by Machida, BJ ended on top:
Ground Control BJ = 1mn50s

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> Competitive Round. BJ arguably more active, more Ground Control.

> Then, in the 2nd Rd, Machida started to use the clinch and trips to get the fight to the ground, which had a clear effect on BJ´s pace:
Ground Control Machida = 35 sec

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BJ scored with a few counter-punches, but Machida was more active with leg kicks (one high kick too)& 1 uppercut.

> BJ clearly lost this Round. Outgunned and winding down.

> But... BJ was still game in the 3rd Rd, forcin´Machida to look for the clinch again [somehow stallin´against the ropes].

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BJ was once again pressurin´him in the final mns of the fight.

> Competitive Round. Considerin´the weight difference, legit reaction from BJ, who arguably finished stronger.
 

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Early career fights. Stopped giving a fuck during 2nd ufc run.

Frontrunner!
 
I had BJ winning against JP and Co but you've made me doubt my memories.

As usual, good work. And thanks.
 
Great thread!

Now do BJ Penn vs food
 
all that for no reason
bj penn just sucked.
he was the best in the era of bums off the street populating the ufc
 
Now someone list his front runner to gassed failure fights.

I’m too lazy.
 
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