Competing as a self taught grappler

[Jaynicks]

Well, would you?If you were basically a no gi grappler strictly taught from books and instructional video tapes, would you compete in a novice competition?And, I don't mean just watching or reading once and then hopping on the mat, I mean if you actually study the material and do some solo drills on like a grappling dummy or with friends.Even with a strength advantage in a match I think you could get by on points. I mean, I don't really think it would hurt to give it a shot at least.

 

[rotten apple]

i dunno man...not only does it take a lot of technical knowledge and practice of techniques, but its also how much mat time you put in. its different to drill and to actually roll with a resisting oppenent who knows what theyre doing.

but if you got the cash, why not?

just be prepared.....

 

[TheBigS]

Well, would you?If you were basically a no gi grappler strictly taught from books and instructional video tapes, would you compete in a novice competition?And, I don't mean just watching or reading once and then hopping on the mat, I mean if you actually study the material and do some solo drills on like a grappling dummy or with friends.Even with a strength advantage in a match I think you could get by on points. I mean, I don't really think it would hurt to give it a shot at least.

Not a good plan. There is no substitute for learning from real teachers and training with other students. You should enroll in classes and learn proper technique if you are serious about competing.

If you insistent on entering the tourney, at least post the video on here afterwards so we can have a good laugh. No disrespect, but this is just ignorant.

 

[bjjaz]

I think some people who have wrestling or something, could maybe win a match, without a gi, by points. Other than that I doubt anyone would do well.

 

[BJJ-guy]

If you insistent on entering the tourney, at least post the video on here afterwards so we can have a good laugh. No disrespect, but this is just ignorant.

LOL, I second this request!

 

[Halfway]

It would definitely be an eye-opening experience.

 

[devante]

the biggest problem u would have is familiarity and adjusting to the speed and technical ability of the guys your matched with; even if you have comparable tech knowledge (in theory). Your application and ability to adjust will be behind the curve cus ur not really working w/anyone much less competitve grapplers.

now u might survive and be able to def, but u should more or less just get dominated; the only thing that could assist u is if u take the time to train w/competitive and high level grapplers. That way u can get familiar w/the contact, the tech and the pace,

they can point things out to u and maybe give u some refinement; so alot of sparring would be the thing u should do if ur jjust gonna go byt tapes and books.

but the guys ur facing will be getting comparable or better sparring and more consistent; not to mention the tech and exp headstart they will have.

so unless ur a prodigy or gifted w/alot of athletic ability u will prob get dominated

 

[The Colonel]

Dude, it'd never happen. Picking up grappling from instructionals and dvds with no prior grappling experience or actual mat time other than rolling around with the occassional friend at a drunken BBQ will not equal success in a match.

Picking up BJJ/judo/wrestling whatever strictly from instructionals is like someone learning the alphabet and expecting them to be able to write English fluently and read. You won't know ANYTHING about hip movement, flowing, transitioning, positioning, god you'd be missing out on so much.

Besides, for people who do actually have a lot of grappling experience, well I don't know about the rest of you guys, but many times whenever I look in books/magazines I find dozens of small details that have been left out.

You could take any redneck, teach him how to do a guillotine, and chances are he could maybe catch someone with it because it's such a simple submission to do, but what if it doesn't work? What if the guy does the counter, what if he escapes? His whole plan has gone to shit because he never had one, he never had a big picture, just various techniques he picked up from wherever the hell.

 

[sproggdawg]

Will get you killed....

 

[pollo loco]

Honestly,

you'll get tooled

It'll be a lot better to just join a legit gym

 

[The Colonel]

Oh yeah, and I forgot to add, I stay completely away from self taught grapplers. I won't even get on the mat with them. That's just what I need, some dumbass who doesn't know what he's doing grabbing my ankle and twisting it every which way.

Now if he wanted to do some MMA though, I'd just sit there and punch him in the head over and over and over again till he realizes that he should seriously train and figure out how to escape my mount.

 

[varick]

I'm sure you can hang in there based on defense alone, if you're really into grappling, but once you start to run into the real competition I'd imagine you'll get smoked. Defense doesn't win, offense does.

 

[Flounder]

If you have the money can't hurt. Much like everyone else said it will probably be an eye opening experience. Unless you have previous expereince and/or are EXTREMELY athletic, you'll get schooled. At best you may get lucky and win one match, but even that's unlikely. Beside all the experience, I think conditioning is going to be a problem. You just can't get into wrestling condition without lots of wrestling.

 

[kidrobot]

wow

 

[Zankou]

Dumb idea. You are likely to get yourself hurt. Part of training is knowing how to train safely and without hurting yourself. Act like a spaz newb in a competition and you can easily get your arm broken or worse.

 

[TheBigS]

Dumb idea. You are likely to get yourself hurt. Part of training is knowing how to train safely and without hurting yourself. Act like a spaz newb in a competition and you can easily get your arm broken or worse.

"Spaz newb"...that's hilarious. I need to remember that...

to the TS: In addition to what has already been said, its also a bit arrogant and disrespectful to assume that by looking at a video or book, and rolling around with your buddies, that you could compete with people who train at legit schools and who spend hours and hours each week learning and practicing real techniques.

My main question would be: why do you want to do this? If you really want to learn, then enter a bjj, judo, or wrestling school!

 

[BlastBeats]

Who do you think you are, James Thompson? Not to be a dick but you're in for a rude awakening.

 

[batman69]

could we work out a deal where you end up in my bracket?

 

[Sasquatch]

why spend all that money on dvds and books when you could use it to join a good bjj school?? btw you'll get killed

 

[Mikey Triangles]

Well, would you?If you were basically a no gi grappler strictly taught from books and instructional video tapes, would you compete in a novice competition?And, I don't mean just watching or reading once and then hopping on the mat, I mean if you actually study the material and do some solo drills on like a grappling dummy or with friends.Even with a strength advantage in a match I think you could get by on points. I mean, I don't really think it would hurt to give it a shot at least.

Novice Division and feel it out IMO


but you shjopuld really get some real training, even if it's just rolling with a blue belt in your backyard.