Chun kuk do

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A influential martial arts system preceeding MMA and a major contributor to today's modern mma and fight scene, created by grand master chuck Norris 10th degree jukotodai black belt. Combining the effectiveness of multiple martial arts into one utilizing Bruce Lee jkd philosophy technique we have Chun kuk do. Simple yet deadly and proven effective techniques for teh streets!

 
I used to have to spar with black belts in Chun Kuk Do from the Presti Karate School in Niagara Falls about once a week back in my fighting days. They used to come to the gym where I trained to learn full contact sparring & they were all tough guys. Their instructor, John Presti was a student of Pat Johnson ( who choreographed all the KARATE KID movies & the COBRA KAI series as well ) & Chuck Norris. I believe he's a 9th Degree black belt in Chun Kuk Do. So, his students are all highly skilled. From what I've heard, Presti is tough as hell on grading & it takes an average of seven years to earn a black belt from him. So, his students are very good fighters & martial artists.

They couldn't box at all though & they took their lumps in sparring. But none of them quit. I caught one with a left hook once & split his eye open which needed 12 stitches to close but he showed up to train the next day to train. So, I was impressed. Knock 'em down or bust 'em up, they always came back for more. That impressed me. So, my trainer & I worked with them when we could & a couple of them really caught on & improved a lot.

They were much better at kickboxing in the beginning though. Each one of them had great kicks from Chun Kuk Do's Tang Soo Do base & if I let my guard down they tried to take my head off. One of them caught my training partner, Ken Graziano ( who was a world-rated PKA kickboxer ) with a spinning back kick to the ribs once & dropped him. And Kenny was very difficult to hurt. So, yeah, they could kick like mules.

They eventually stopped coming to our gym after about six months though. I heard Presti put an end to it because they were spending more time training with us than they were with him & he didn't appreciate it. But it was fun while it lasted. They taught me a few things that I didn't know as far as joint locks, chokes & throws were concerned in return for my time helping them & sparring with them so that was cool.

So, yeah, Chun Kuk Do is very legit & in my experience, its representatives are excellent martial artists & gentlemen.

Do you train in Chun Kuk Do?
 
sweetviolenturg said:
I used to have to spar with black belts in Chun Kuk Do from the Presti Karate School in Niagara Falls about once a week back in my fighting days. They used to come to the gym where I trained to learn full contact sparring & they were all tough guys. Their instructor, John Presti was a student of Pat Johnson ( who choreographed all the KARATE KID movies & the COBRA KAI series as well ) & Chuck Norris. I believe he's a 9th Degree black belt in Chun Kuk Do. So, his students are all highly skilled. From what I've heard, Presti is tough as hell on grading & it takes an average of seven years to earn a black belt from him. So, his students are very good fighters & martial artists.

They couldn't box at all though & they took their lumps in sparring. But none of them quit. I caught one with a left hook once & split his eye open which needed 12 stitches to close but he showed up to train the next day to train. So, I was impressed. Knock 'em down or bust 'em up, they always came back for more. That impressed me. So, my trainer & I worked with them when we could & a couple of them really caught on & improved a lot.

They were much better at kickboxing in the beginning though. Each one of them had great kicks from Chun Kuk Do's Tang Soo Do base & if I let my guard down they tried to take my head off. One of them caught my training partner, Ken Graziano ( who was a world-rated PKA kickboxer ) with a spinning back kick to the ribs once & dropped him. And Kenny was very difficult to hurt. So, yeah, they could kick like mules.

They eventually stopped coming to our gym after about six months though. I heard Presti put an end to it because they were spending more time training with us than they were with him & he didn't appreciate it. But it was fun while it lasted. They taught me a few things that I didn't know as far as joint locks, chokes & throws were concerned in return for my time helping them & sparring with them so that was cool.

So, yeah, Chun Kuk Do is very legit & in my experience, its representatives are excellent martial artists & gentlemen.

Do you train in Chun Kuk Do?
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Yeah, Norris is legit
We forget that before the martial arts explosion in recent years these were some of the pioneers.

Norris also trained with Gene Lebell and was one of the first to do BJJ in the US.

Also gotta love the background music to this vid.

 
TheMaster said:
Yeah, Norris is legit
We forget that before the martial arts explosion in recent years these were some of the pioneers.

Norris also trained with Gene Lebell and was one of the first to do BJJ in the US.

Also gotta love the background music to this vid.

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<45> That music's classic! Thanks for sharing.

As for Norris, yes, sir, he's legit. My only beef with his accomplishments is the belief by the vast majority of people that he was a world middleweight champion kickboxer like Bill Wallace. They don't understand that what Norris was champion at was full contact point Karate. A much different thing. But, to his credit, I've never heard Norris perpetuate it. So, it's all good.
 
sweetviolenturg said:
I used to have to spar with black belts in Chun Kuk Do from the Presti Karate School in Niagara Falls about once a week back in my fighting days. They used to come to the gym where I trained to learn full contact sparring & they were all tough guys. Their instructor, John Presti was a student of Pat Johnson ( who choreographed all the KARATE KID movies & the COBRA KAI series as well ) & Chuck Norris. I believe he's a 9th Degree black belt in Chun Kuk Do. So, his students are all highly skilled. From what I've heard, Presti is tough as hell on grading & it takes an average of seven years to earn a black belt from him. So, his students are very good fighters & martial artists.

They couldn't box at all though & they took their lumps in sparring. But none of them quit. I caught one with a left hook once & split his eye open which needed 12 stitches to close but he showed up to train the next day to train. So, I was impressed. Knock 'em down or bust 'em up, they always came back for more. That impressed me. So, my trainer & I worked with them when we could & a couple of them really caught on & improved a lot.

They were much better at kickboxing in the beginning though. Each one of them had great kicks from Chun Kuk Do's Tang Soo Do base & if I let my guard down they tried to take my head off. One of them caught my training partner, Ken Graziano ( who was a world-rated PKA kickboxer ) with a spinning back kick to the ribs once & dropped him. And Kenny was very difficult to hurt. So, yeah, they could kick like mules.

They eventually stopped coming to our gym after about six months though. I heard Presti put an end to it because they were spending more time training with us than they were with him & he didn't appreciate it. But it was fun while it lasted. They taught me a few things that I didn't know as far as joint locks, chokes & throws were concerned in return for my time helping them & sparring with them so that was cool.

So, yeah, Chun Kuk Do is very legit & in my experience, its representatives are excellent martial artists & gentlemen.

Do you train in Chun Kuk Do?
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A question that might beg a speculative answer, but here it is: why would those students want to train boxing more, which in turn led to their sensei shutting down cross training? Was it because boxing and the hard sparring that comes with it was new and exciting to them, or because it lended itself to more practical self-defense experience?
 
deucesarewild said:
A question that might beg a speculative answer, but here it is: why would those students want to train boxing more, which in turn led to their sensei shutting down cross training? Was it because boxing and the hard sparring that comes with it was new and exciting to them, or because it lended itself to more practical self-defense experience?
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Actually, as I recall it was a bit of both. If I remember correctly ( & I could be forgetting something because this occurred back in the late '80s ) they did some full contact sparring at Presti's school but no contact to the head was allowed. So, they decided that they wanted to experience it & use it as practical experience.

The one who I always thought of as more or less the leader of the group told me that it was his idea. And because he was the one who was the most gunshy in the beginning, I got the feeling that he had some doubts about whether he could take a shot to the face so he came to our gym to test himself & find out. And after a while, he adapted pretty well to it.

One of the group had a little bit of boxing experience before he came to us so he adapted the quickest & he got good enough to where he expressed an interest in fighting as an amateur kickboxer but I don't think he ever pursued it after they stopped showing up. Which is too bad because he could have been pretty good.
 
Looks like some sloppy Karate with some Hapkido thrown in. Those one step drills with throws and joint locks can be found in a lot of Karate styles so nothing innovative here.
 
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Tayski said:
Looks like some sloppy Karate with some Hapkido thrown in. Those one step drills with throws and joint locks can be found in a lot of Karate styles so nothing innovative here.
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You trying to get your ass kicked by Chuck Norris?
Because that's how you get your ass kicked by Chuck Norris.
;)
 
sweetviolenturg said:
Actually, as I recall it was a bit of both. If I remember correctly ( & I could be forgetting something because this occurred back in the late '80s ) they did some full contact sparring at Presti's school but no contact to the head was allowed. So, they decided that they wanted to experience it & use it as practical experience.

The one who I always thought of as more or less the leader of the group told me that it was his idea. And because he was the one who was the most gunshy in the beginning, I got the feeling that he had some doubts about whether he could take a shot to the face so he came to our gym to test himself & find out. And after a while, he adapted pretty well to it.

One of the group had a little bit of boxing experience before he came to us so he adapted the quickest & he got good enough to where he expressed an interest in fighting as an amateur kickboxer but I don't think he ever pursued it after they stopped showing up. Which is too bad because he could have been pretty good.
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Honestly, having gone through some martial arts like BJJ and Jeet Kune Do, then trying some May Thai/kickboxing, and then giving boxing a very pretty dedicated go, I can say that as limited as boxing is, I think I got more confidence about my martial art/self defense game from boxing than anything else. It really helped teach me how to deal with pain, pressure, aggressive motion from someone who was truly better than me and more experienced. Then when I took my boxing experience back to other art forms, I realized how far footwork and a jab can actually take someone. I can see why they would have wanted some of that more immersive sparring. It's really revealing.

Not bragging AT ALL as I am pretty mediocre to be honest lol, but living all that experience gave me a bit of perspective.
 
deucesarewild said:
Honestly, having gone through some martial arts like BJJ and Jeet Kune Do, then trying some May Thai/kickboxing, and then giving boxing a very pretty dedicated go, I can say that as limited as boxing is, I think I got more confidence about my martial art/self defense game from boxing than anything else. It really helped teach me how to deal with pain, pressure, aggressive motion from someone who was truly better than me and more experienced. Then when I took my boxing experience back to other art forms, I realized how far footwork and a jab can actually take someone. I can see why they would have wanted some of that more immersive sparring. It's really revealing.

Not bragging AT ALL as I am pretty mediocre to be honest lol, but living all that experience gave me a bit of perspective.
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Oh, I know exactly what you mean. Great post.
 
I wish I'd know these moves last time I had a street fight when the guy pushed out a lame punch and left it hanging there waiting for my counterattack.
 
Chuck Norris karate

Chuck I mean Chun

Kick I mean kuk

DoOOoOooO


Chunkukdo


Chuck Norris is legit but somehow got sucked into jokes.

I view chuck as more "legit" than Bruce but I might want to double check with khan on what counts and what does not as well as what is legit and what is not.
 
Looks like horseshit TMA sequences . However, the guys doing them look solid. These are examples of guys that look legit despite their art.
 
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