News Chris Hemsworth's trainer says Creatine, Protein Shakes are waste of time to build muscle + burn fat

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What do you guys think? I agree Creatine to me is a waste of money, I think Whey works helps get the extra quick digesting protein in especially since eating full meals takes time to digest.

Hemsworth is natural and you can tell by his traps he doesn't have the bulging traps that are a sign of steroid usage.


Supplements offer only small benefits at best compared to diet and exercise
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Zocchi said people over rely on products like protein shakes or creatine to build muscle and burn fat.

"People think things like protein shakes and creatine make a big difference, but that's only about 5% of the equation," Zocchi said.

Creatine, BCAAs, and similar products can give you an edge, but only if you've already nailed down the basics of eating well and working out consistently.

There's also nothing magical about protein shakes, the main advantage of which is to provide concentrated nutrients to help round out your diet if you can't get enough from whole foods.

For Hemsworth's 4,500 calorie a day bulking plan, that can be helpful, but it's a small portion of his overall training and diet.

And for the average person who isn't eating 4,500 calories, supplements are significantly less important than high-quality food and regular gym sessions.

"It's dialing in the basics and sticking to the program to get results," Zocchi said.

It can also be difficult to know what you're getting in supplements since they don't need to be FDA approved, so products may contain fillers, unreliable doses, or ingredients not on the label.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/chris-hemsworths-thor-trainer-says-123000517.html
 
Hemsworth is 100% on the peds. All the ripped hollywood dudes are on them. They're not athletes and dont have to get tested so why the hell not.

Pretty shitty to be telling average joes they can obtain those bodies naturally though.
 
There is a reason they are called SUPPLEMENTS. They are supposed to supplement a good diet an exercise regimine. They are not supposed to be a solution in themselves. Hemsworth is likely a combo of spectacular genes, dietitians, private chefs, personal trainers, and doctor monitored Mexican creatine doses. I doubt anyone in Hollywood is natty.
 
everything he says in the quotes makes a lot of sense to me

most of your success will come from dialing in eating real healthy food and working out consistently

personally, I find that challenging enough

elite athletes may require something more

the title is misleading. I know that the TS took the title directly from the article and so my criticism is of the original author. I get it that they want (maybe need) a clickbait headline but this is so lazy. The title literally includes "trainer says" and then the article is filled with quotes from the trainer that never actually say that.

incidentally, this is also one of the best quotes: "As such, it's important to set goals that prioritize your own progress, rather than comparing yourself to a Hollywood star. Everyone's body is different. I do the same workouts as Chris and eat the same, and I don't look like him,"
 
Hemsworth is 100% on the peds. All the ripped hollywood dudes are on them. They're not athletes and dont have to get tested so why the hell not.

Pretty shitty to be telling average joes they can obtain those bodies naturally though.

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I recently started using creatine. Just the recommended 5g a day. It seems to help with muscle recovery. I'm not in it for chiseled physique. I want to get back to the place I was before injury and surgery and have my muscle endurance match my energy level. I'm also old as fuck so I figured I'd give it a shot.

Also shouts to @Valhoven for the recommendation. Cheers bud.
 
Hemsworth is 100% on the peds. All the ripped hollywood dudes are on them. They're not athletes and dont have to get tested so why the hell not.

Pretty shitty to be telling average joes they can obtain those bodies naturally though.
I got cranky during the Congressional hearings regarding PEDs in baseball. The reason being that the chairman of the committee, Henry Waxman, claimed that he needed to go after baseball players because "children look up to them". Mind you, Waxman literally represented the district that includes Hollywood. I wonder why he didn't go after Hollywood for the same reason "children look up to them."
 
Hemsworth ain’t passing the eye test, no way he’s not juicing. I took creatine and whey protein in the 90’s, from what I remember it worked ok. Now I take ice cream.
 
wtf is the “eye test”?

Eye don’t look that good so he must be on steroids?
 
I got cranky during the Congressional hearings regarding PEDs in baseball. The reason being that the chairman of the committee, Henry Waxman, claimed that he needed to go after baseball players because "children look up to them". Mind you, Waxman literally represented the district that includes Hollywood. I wonder why he didn't go after Hollywood for the same reason "children look up to them."

Sports is different because you're competing against other athletes. By taking peds you're basically commiting fraud.
None of that really applies to actors and hollywood. The whole children/role models thing to me is bs. I view it as just a way to assert more control over athletes and to keep them in line. Role models should be people actually in your life. I can't recall an actor whose ever been in a big scandal being criticised for being a bad role model.

I do get where you're coming from though.
 
It depends on the goal, the size, the training regime, etc....

When i was deeply invested in bodybuilding, i was around 216 at 5'10, eating 5500-6000 calories and 350g of protein just for maintenance. Eating 350g of protein without shakes was very often difficult and made life very dull and repetitive as you can't do anything for more than two hours without having massive cravings. So protein bars/shakes were always handy.

As far creatine goes, the only benefit i had was an increase in strength in the first couple of months of being a beginner. Later on, i did several 6 months on, 6 months off, and all things being equal, i gained neither size nor strength from it.

The average 160-170 gym regular wouldn't have much benefit from either. Making sure to eat enough calories/protein and having a smart training program designed to deliver more stress every training session, whether by adding more weight, more reps in the same number of sets, or adding sets, will produce great gains without exception.

People that don't grow, either don't eat enough calories, eat enough protein relative to their bodyweight or repeat the same training cycles that have never yielded results but expect that they will magically begin to. 95% of regular gym goers fall under this umbrella, staying the same year in and year out, claiming that you can't grow without steroids while benching 4 sets of 8 with 185 for the last 5 years.
 
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