International [Chinese COVID Vaccines News] After Sowing Propaganda Against mRNA Tech, China Realize They Needs It

Yes the cooling requirements will pose a problem in rural areas this is why I think Moderna is better.

In sone areas medical fascilities are primitive there might not be enough freezers in town.

But then again the more isolated those communities the less they will be at risk from Covid.
I think for areas that don’t have the infrastructure they’ll have everyone come to a central area to get the shots. Which will make single dose vaccines like JNJ better for these situations. Not too mention no need for crazy freezing
 
No Papers, No Orders:
Agencies left in the dark over government's illegal Sinopharm vaccination mess



https://www.philstar.com/headlines/...eft-dark-over-sinopharm-vaccination-mess/amp/

I think Its the Military behind this and like a lot of Military conspiracies we will most likely not get to know who is behind this unless some hi ranking whistle blowers would surface but I doubt.


And you will not see any much backlash from the government Civilian agencies handling the investigation I am sure the Military will kindly advice them to sweep this under the rugs or they end up inside a cement filed drum.
 
I think for areas that don’t have the infrastructure they’ll have everyone come to a central area to get the shots. Which will make single dose vaccines like JNJ better for these situations. Not too mention no need for crazy freezing

Manila Mayor pledge he will get Moderna and Pfzer it seems there is really distrust and rightfully so with the Chinese vaccines and even Duterte supporters Like Manila Mayor Dumagosu are trying to get independent procurement of vaccines.

They are probably being pushed by the business sector who wants a better vacine that will give more confidence to consumers and investors to get back to normal.


Lots of Filipinos are still worried off getting sick from this and are avoiding going to pubs,theme parks etc, And as long as there are random mini outbreaks it will not put the people at ease.
 
I would assume the 3rd. Probably by a diplomat, typically they are not searched at all.

Oh yes this was probably recomended by the Chinese diplomats they have been trying to buy the loyalty of the Philippine military more and more this past few years.
 
Does anyone actually trust a Chinese vaccine to be as effective as it is claimed and the stated side effects?

The Chinese government wants to be be seen as the world's savior, so they will make all kinds of claims for their vaccine.


Our Mayor wants to wait for the Moderna and Pfzer vaccines instead.
 
Manila Mayor pledge he will get Moderna and Pfzer it seems there is really distrust and rightfully so with the Chinese vaccines and even Duterte supporters Like Manila Mayor Dumagosu are trying to get independent procurement of vaccines.

They are probably being pushed by the business sector who wants a better vacine that will give more confidence to consumers and investors to get back to normal.


Lots of Filipinos are still worried off getting sick from this and are avoiding going to pubs,theme parks etc, And as long as there are random mini outbreaks it will not put the people at ease.
I’m sure there is an under current of resistance against some of the crazy things duerte is doing. A more expensive less effective and possibly ore dangerous Chinese vaccine sounds like a dumb plan. Hopefully others can get around dumb D and get the real vaccine

Japan still has no vaccine plan as of now. Maybe this year is all I know
 
Manila Mayor pledge he will get Moderna and Pfzer it seems there is really distrust and rightfully so with the Chinese vaccines and even Duterte supporters Like Manila Mayor Dumagosu are trying to get independent procurement of vaccines.

They are probably being pushed by the business sector who wants a better vacine that will give more confidence to consumers and investors to get back to normal.


Lots of Filipinos are still worried off getting sick from this and are avoiding going to pubs,theme parks etc, And as long as there are random mini outbreaks it will not put the people at ease.


Main reason is probably this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den...nch,complications associated with the vaccine.


That's a Sanofi issue though.
 
Japan still has no vaccine plan as of now. Maybe this year is all I know

Japan is scheduled to begin in Feb, with inventories locked down with Pfizer, Moderna, and AstraZeneca.
 
Japan is scheduled to begin in Feb, with inventories locked down with Pfizer, Moderna, and AstraZeneca.
I mean they are scheduled but don’t have a real plan. I doubt the roll out will be fast by any means. Also seems most don’t want the vaccine. Those that I’ve talked to all are very skeptical
 
China approves Sinopharm Covid-19 vaccine, promises free Chinese shots for all citizens

China approved its first homegrown coronavirus vaccine for general public use on Thursday, with officials promising to provide the general public with free inoculations.

The approval comes a day after its manufacturer, state-owned pharmaceutical giant Sinopharm, said the vaccine is 79.34% effective, citing interim analysis of Phase 3 clinical trials.

Though no detailed efficacy data for the vaccine has been released, the decision to grant approval underscores claims made by Chinese officials in recent weeks over the safety and effectiveness of the country's domestically produced vaccine candidates.

China is aiming to inoculate 50 million people with domestic Covid-19 vaccines ahead of February's Lunar New Year celebrations. It has also drastically scaled up its vaccine emergency use program in recent weeks.

Zeng Yixin, vice-minister of China's National Health Commission, said at a news conference Thursday that the Sinopharm vaccine will be provided free of charge to Chinese citizens.

"Vaccine is a public good by its nature, and the price may vary based on the scale of use, but an important premise is that it will be provided to the public for free," Zeng said.

Since December 15, more than 3 million vaccine doses have been administered to "key groups," Zeng said. That's on top of the 1.5 million doses administered to "high-risk groups" by the end of November, he added.

Among those inoculated, fewer than 0.1% developed a light fever, and about two people per million developed "relative serious adverse reactions" such as allergies, according to Zeng.

The next step is to inoculate vulnerable groups such as the elderly and people with underlying diseases, before vaccinating the general population, Zeng said, without offering more details on how the vaccines will be provided for free.

A Sinopharm company executive said Thursday the vaccine's Phase 3 trials covered more than 60,000 people, while detailed data will be released later and published in scientific journals at home and abroad.

An official with China's drug regulator said the vaccine's clinical trials are still ongoing, and its manufacturer will be required to submit follow-up data to authorities.

The Sinopharm vaccine is less effective than those developed by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, which have an efficacy rate of about 95%. Russia says its Sputnik V vaccine is 91% effective.

And the vaccine's efficacy rate of 79% is lower than the 86% announced by the United Arab Emirates for the same vaccine on December 9. The UAE based its results on an interim analysis of late-stage clinical trials conducted there from July. It has since approved the vaccine for public use.

The Sinopharm vaccine has a higher efficacy rate than the one developed by the UK's Oxford University and AstraZeneca, which averaged 70%. On Wednesday, the UK became the first country to approve that vaccine for public distribution.

Sinopharm's results were announced weeks after its global competitors. And with a lack of details, it remains unclear whether the information provided will be enough to dispel skepticism over the quality of Chinese vaccines.

Nevertheless, the announcement could still pave the way for the vaccine's large-scale rollout both within China and globally.

China is ready to send hundreds of millions of doses to countries that have conducted last-stage trials for its leading vaccine candidates. Chinese leaders have also promised a growing list of developing countries priority access.

Beijing is using the global campaign as a soft power tool, analysts say, to try to repair any damage to its image from its early mishandling of the coronavirus pandemic.

Aside from the approved Sinopharm vaccine, China has four coronavirus candidates which have reached Phase 3 clinical trials -- the last and most important step of testing before regulatory approval is sought. Having largely eliminated the spread of coronavirus inside its borders, Chinese drugmakers had to look abroad for places to test the efficacy of their vaccines. Together, they have rolled out Phase 3 trials in at least 16 countries.

Sinopharm's two vaccine candidates, including the one approved in China, have rolled out Phase 3 trials in 10 countries, mostly in the Middle East and South America.

Sinopharm chairman Liu Jingzhen said last month that dozens of countries have requested to buy the company's vaccines. He did not name the countries or elaborate on the amount of doses they proposed, but he said CNBG was capable of producing more than a billion doses in 2021.

Compared with Pfizer and Moderna, Sinopharm's vaccines do not require freezing temperatures for storage, making transport and distribution much easier -- especially in developing countries that lack cold storage capacities.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/30/asia/china-sinopharm-vaccine-efficacy-intl-hnk/index.html
 
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Egypt approves Chinese COVID vaccine, roll-out likely this month
Arab world’s most populous country plans to buy 40 million doses of the Sinopharm vaccine, health minister says.

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Egypt has granted regulatory approval for the use of a COVID-19 vaccine developed by Chinese pharma giant Sinopharm, with the inoculation campaign expected to get under way later in January, the health minister said.

“The Egyptian pharmaceutical authority approved on Saturday the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine,” Hala Zayed told the local MBC Masr channel.

Zayed said the first batch of the vaccine was delivered in December, with further doses expected this month.

“The second shipment of this vaccine is due to arrive in the second or third week of January, and as soon as it arrives, we will start vaccinations,” the minister said.

Each batch of the vaccine consists of 50,000 doses. Zayed said Egypt plans to buy 40 million doses of the Sinopharm jab.

The health ministry has announced the first group to receive the vaccination will be the country’s medical workers.

Egypt, the Arab world’s most populous country with about 100 million inhabitants, has recorded more than 140,000 cases of the COVID-19 disease, including 7,800 deaths.

After a brief lull, the number of infections rose dramatically in late 2020, from about 100 new cases confirmed a day in October to some 1,400 daily cases currently.

Sinopharm announced on Wednesday that one of its vaccines, to be distributed in China, was 79 percent effective.

The jab’s efficacy is lower than that of vaccines developed by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna – both over 90 percent effective.

Another jab developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University has proved to be 70 percent effective.

Egypt will also receive the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine in the third or fourth week of January, according to Zayed, who added that a contract “was being finalised”.

Negotiations with Pfizer “are under way” as well, she added.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/3/egypt-approves-chinese-vaccine-roll-out-expected-in-january
 
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As it turns out, there's no unified protocol with any of the Chinese trials, it's conducted differently by every manufacturer in every country, that's why the results are wildly different, nothing adds up, and the results can't even be compared with one another like those in the West who followed the same protocol for their 30,000+ volunteers.

First, Indonesia previously announced an incredible "97% efficacy rate" for Sinovac, then back-pedaled and admit the efficacy rate is actually "not yet determined" for their tiny trial with only 1,700 volunteers (???)

Then Turkey announced an impressive 91.25% result from their Sinovac trial that has 7,000 volunteers, before clarifying that 91.25% efficacy number is actually based on data from only 1,322 of the participants (???)

Let's just call it like it is: a "Phase 3 trial" that involves only a handful of people is no Phase 3 at all. In fact, we call that Phase 2!

(A side note: UAE announced 86% for the Sinopharm-designed vaccine that they tested on 31,000 volunteers, which is really good, the only hiccup that we found out later is the vaccines they use for the trial actually came from two different partnering manufacturers being lumped into one trial, so no one know which one does better, and hope both are exactly the same in everyway.

Sinopharm's separate announcement that "no one who were vaccined outside the trials ever get infected" can be tossed in the trash obviously, since no vaccine is 100% effective.)

Now, the Sinovac Phase 3 trial in Brazil with 13,000 volunteers is supposedly legit because the Brazilian government insisted that it follows FDA's clinical trials guideline for western vaccines to make sure the data is meaningful and comparable (same vaccine/placebo source for equal representation of age ranges, genders, ethnicities, and so on), so that's the one everyone are paying attention to, but now China wouldn't let them announce their results for a third time and want to "consolidate data from the trials in Indonesia and Turkey" (???)

My guess is Brazil's "at least 50% efficacy" number is certainly higher than a coin-toss, but it is nowhere near the numbers from the tiny trials that did NOT follow FDA's standard protocol for Phase 3, and if Sinovac really going to lump apples and oranges into one basket instead of letting people know the result from perhaps the only legitimate Phase 3 trial they have in Brazil, I think the final consolidated number is even more meaningless than AstraZeneca's "up to 90% efficacy (but only in young people)" when they consolidated the half-dose results with full-dose.

SINOVAC VACCINE 78% EFFECTIVE SHOWN IN TRAILS IN BRASIL

This just came out today
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equil...8-contra-a-covid-19-em-estudo-no-brasil.shtml

Nailed it!

Further details remains to be seen, but this number is much more believable than those fake-ass cherry-picked numbers from a handful of people in Turkey and Indonesia that China wants to consolidate together for a higher average.

As expected, Sinovac and Sinopharm will mainly compete with AstraZeneca in the developing world who missed out or can't afford the premium stuff, though I expect AstraZeneca will win with its much cheaper price tag and peer-reviewed results published in medical journals.

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Butantan announce Sinovac vaccine 78% effective in Brazil trial, experts call for more details
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SAO PAULOSAO PAULO (Reuters) -A coronavirus vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech was 78% effective in a late-stage Brazilian trial with no severe COVID-19 cases, researchers said on Thursday, although a lack of data details stirred calls for more transparency.

The trial results, closely watched by developing countries counting on the vaccine to begin mass inoculations to help end a raging pandemic, was below preliminary findings from Turkish researchers and lacked detailed data provided on U.S. and European vaccines.

The director of Brazilian biomedical center Butantan, Sinovac's research and production partner, said detailed results were being submitted to health regulator Anvisa as part of a request for emergency use of the vaccine.

"One thing is a presentation at a news conference. It's something else to get the data and analyze it, which is what Anvisa will do," said Cristina Bonorino, who sits on the scientific committee of the Brazilian Immunology Society. "If it's what they say, that's an excellent result," she added.

Brazil and Indonesia, which have the most COVID-19 cases in Latin America and Southeast Asia, respectively, are preparing to roll out the vaccine, called CoronaVac, this month. Turkey, Chile, Singapore, Ukraine and Thailand have also struck supply deals with Sinovac.

Although CoronaVac's efficacy falls short of the 95% success rate of vaccines from Moderna Inc or Pfizer Inc with partner BioNTech SE, it is easier to transport and can be stored at normal refrigerator temperatures.

The 78% efficacy rate is also well above the 50% to 60% benchmark set by global health authorities for vaccines in development early in the pandemic, given the urgent need.

Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech released detailed results of late-stage trials last year, before receiving emergency use authorizations in the United States and elsewhere.

Butantan Director Dimas Covas told a news conference that full CoronaVac data would be released in an unspecified scientific publication but did not provide a timeline.

Pressed by journalists, Covas said there had been 218 COVID-19 cases in the trial of 13,000 volunteers. Just over 160 of those cases occurred among participants who received a placebo and the rest were in vaccinated volunteers, he said.

Unlike other studies of the vaccine, Brazil's CoronaVac trial included elderly volunteers, a particularly vulnerable population.

Covas said CoronaVac had entirely prevented severe COVID-19 cases among the vaccinated group, including the elderly. None of those who received the vaccine become ill enough to require hospitalization, he added.

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Piecemeal disclosure of results from global CoronaVac studies have led to concerns about transparency of the trials, which was not helped by Butantan's news conference.

"It was not clear or transparent," said Denise Garrett, an epidemiologist who worked 23 years at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). "They presented secondary outcomes on preventing mild cases, serious ones and hospitalizations, but not the efficacy in preventing disease."

The partial disclosure by Butantan, which had delayed its announcement three times, citing obligations to Sinovac, added to skepticism about the Chinese vaccine in Brazil. Nearly half of Brazilians said they would not take a COVID-19 vaccine developed by China, according to a December poll.

Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has expressed disdain for the Sinovac vaccine, citing doubts about its "origin." He has traded barbs with political rival João Doria, the governor of Sao Paulo, which is funding trials and production of the shot.

Still, Health Minister Eduardo Pazuello said on Thursday that the federal government would buy Butantan's full output of CoronaVac this year, nearing a deal to buy 100 million doses for a national immunization program.

Brazil has the world's second-deadliest outbreak after the United States, with a death toll that passed 200,000 on Thursday, and aims to vaccinate 51 million people, or about one-fourth of its population, in the first half of 2021. [nL1N2JI32B]

Immunizations have not yet begun. Doria reiterated that Sao Paulo, the country's most affluent and populous state, expected to start vaccinations on Jan. 25.

Based on traditional vaccine technology using inactivated coronavirus to trigger an immune response, CoronaVac can be stored temperatures of 2-8 degrees Celsius (36°-46°F) and may remain stable for up to three years.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN29C1VZ
 
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Nailed it!

Further details remains to be seen, but this number is much more believable than those fake-ass cherry-picked numbers from a handful of people in Turkey and Indonesia that China wants to consolidate together for a higher average.

As expected, Sinovac and Sinopharm will mainly compete with AstraZeneca in the developing world who missed out or can't afford the premium stuff, though I expect AstraZeneca will win with its much cheaper price tag and peer-reviewed results published in medical journals.

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Butantan announce Sinovac vaccine 78% effective in Brazil trial, experts call for more details
Eduardo Simões​

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https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN29C1VZ
And it's actually much lower.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-than-60-in-brazil-trial-report-idINKBN29G14W
The best I could find in English but in Portuguese:
https://g1.globo.com/sp/sao-paulo/n...feitos-no-brasil-diz-instituto-butantan.ghtml
My resume:
Anvisa(FDA) criticized Butantan early results, asked for more data and said the actual efficacy is 50.4%.
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I think the image is self explanatory due to the similarity of the languages but it grades disease from 0(not infected) to 10(death). 1 being assymptomatic, 2 light symptoms and so on.
It says that in relation to placebo there were no deaths and no hospitalizations, there was a 77.96% reduction in "people that need help"(not sure what it means) and 50.38% reduction in very mild cases.

Anvisa, says though that the data is still incomplete and it cannot allow the vaccine with incomplete data. Bad!


Why it matters and how it matters?
At first glance it's a terrible vaccine, it's expensive, shady data, and it doesn't work that well.
Looking deeper, if the values hold for the population at large it would still be an improvement as people that get the shots will not die.
However, looking even deeper, if 50% or so of the people that get the shot still get sick they still transmit the virus!
If everybody got the injections at once it would make no difference, sure.
As even advanced countries are taking a while to vaccinate their whole populations and half of the people that get the Coronavac vaccine are still infectious and spreading the virus herd immunity will take a whole lot longer to achieve.

The vaccine is low tech, which is great because it can be produced in many countries but it's not cheap. AstraZeneca's vaccine seems to be cheaper and more effective.
My verdict is a big loss for Sao Paulo and China.
 
It was a sham, they announced 78% excluding cases that were of mild symptons. The vaccine is 50% and the local Government made a mockery of the announcement.

Today the actuall institute that made the tests came out with the correct number

Coronavac is a joke

And it's actually much lower.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-than-60-in-brazil-trial-report-idINKBN29G14W
The best I could find in English but in Portuguese:
https://g1.globo.com/sp/sao-paulo/n...feitos-no-brasil-diz-instituto-butantan.ghtml
My resume:
Anvisa(FDA) criticized Butantan early results, asked for more data and said the actual efficacy is 50.4%.
slide.jpg

I think the image is self explanatory due to the similarity of the languages but it grades disease from 0(not infected) to 10(death). 1 being assymptomatic, 2 light symptoms and so on.
It says that in relation to placebo there were no deaths and no hospitalizations, there was a 77.96% reduction in "people that need help"(not sure what it means) and 50.38% reduction in very mild cases.

Anvisa, says though that the data is still incomplete and it cannot allow the vaccine with incomplete data. Bad!


Why it matters and how it matters?
At first glance it's a terrible vaccine, it's expensive, shady data, and it doesn't work that well.
Looking deeper, if the values hold for the population at large it would still be an improvement as people that get the shots will not die.
However, looking even deeper, if 50% or so of the people that get the shot still get sick they still transmit the virus!
If everybody got the injections at once it would make no difference, sure.
As even advanced countries are taking a while to vaccinate their whole populations and half of the people that get the Coronavac vaccine are still infectious and spreading the virus herd immunity will take a whole lot longer to achieve.

The vaccine is low tech, which is great because it can be produced in many countries but it's not cheap. AstraZeneca's vaccine seems to be cheaper and more effective.
My verdict is a big loss for Sao Paulo and China.
 
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And it's actually much lower.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-than-60-in-brazil-trial-report-idINKBN29G14W
The best I could find in English but in Portuguese:
https://g1.globo.com/sp/sao-paulo/n...feitos-no-brasil-diz-instituto-butantan.ghtml
My resume:
Anvisa(FDA) criticized Butantan early results, asked for more data and said the actual efficacy is 50.4%.
slide.jpg

I think the image is self explanatory due to the similarity of the languages but it grades disease from 0(not infected) to 10(death). 1 being assymptomatic, 2 light symptoms and so on.
It says that in relation to placebo there were no deaths and no hospitalizations, there was a 77.96% reduction in "people that need help"(not sure what it means) and 50.38% reduction in very mild cases.

Anvisa, says though that the data is still incomplete and it cannot allow the vaccine with incomplete data. Bad!


Why it matters and how it matters?
At first glance it's a terrible vaccine, it's expensive, shady data, and it doesn't work that well.
Looking deeper, if the values hold for the population at large it would still be an improvement as people that get the shots will not die.
However, looking even deeper, if 50% or so of the people that get the shot still get sick they still transmit the virus!
If everybody got the injections at once it would make no difference, sure.
As even advanced countries are taking a while to vaccinate their whole populations and half of the people that get the Coronavac vaccine are still infectious and spreading the virus herd immunity will take a whole lot longer to achieve.

The vaccine is low tech, which is great because it can be produced in many countries but it's not cheap. AstraZeneca's vaccine seems to be cheaper and more effective.
My verdict is a big loss for Sao Paulo and China.

WTF, this cherry-picking bs is even worse than AstraZeneca's intial report <Lmaoo>

If you are fully vaccinated and still get infected, then you are infected. It doesn't matter if the symptoms are mild or severe, you are still a contagious virus factory!
 
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Anyone have info on the dosage that is being distributed/given for the Sinovac vaccine? They tested two dosages in their animal trials, but I can’t find any information on which dose is being recommended/given to humans.
 
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