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BY KANIS LEUNG AND ZEN SOO
Updated 9:59 AM BRT, January 29, 2024

HONG KONG (AP) — A Hong Kong court ordered China Evergrande, the world’s most heavily indebted real estate developer, to undergo liquidation following a failed effort to restructure $300 billion owed to banks and bondholders that fueled fears about China’s rising debt burden.
“It would be a situation where the court says enough is enough,” Judge Linda Chan said Monday. She said it was appropriate for the court to order Evergrande to wind up its business given a “lack of progress on the part of the company putting forward a viable restructuring proposal” as well as Evergrande’s insolvency.

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China Evergrande Group is among dozens of Chinese developers that have collapsed since 2020 under official pressure to rein in surging debt the ruling Communist Party views as a threat to China’s slowing economic growth.

But the crackdown on excess borrowing tipped the property industry into crisis, dragging on the economy and rattling financial systems in and outside China.

Chinese regulators have said the risks of global shockwaves from Evergrande’s failure can be contained. The court documents seen Monday showed Evergrande owes about $25.4 billion to foreign creditors. Its total assets of about $240 billion are dwarfed by its total liabilities.


“It is indisputable that the company is grossly insolvent and is unable to pay its debts,” the documents say.

About 90% of Evergrande’s business is in mainland China. Its chairman, Hui Ka Yan, who is also known as Xu Jiayin, was detained by authorities for suspected “illegal crimes” in late September, further complicating the company’s efforts to recover.

It’s unclear how the liquidation order will affect China’s financial system or Evergrande’s operations as it struggles to deliver housing that has been paid for but not yet handed over to families that put their life savings into such investments.

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Evergrande’s Hong Kong-traded shares plunged nearly 21% early Monday before they were suspended from trading. But Hong Kong’s benchmark Hang Seng index was up 0.9% and some property developers saw gains in their share prices.

China’s largest real estate developer, Country Garden, initially gained nearly 3% but was flat. Sunac China Holdings rose 2.4%.

The Shanghai Composite index dropped 0.9% while Shenzhen’s A-share index fell more than 2%.

The Hong Kong court gave Evergrande a reprieve in December to allow it time to “refine” a new debt restructuring plan.

But Chan, the judge, said Evergrande “has not demonstrated that there is any useful purpose for the court to adjourn the petition — there is no restructuring proposal, let alone a viable proposal which has the support of the requisite majorities of the creditors.”

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In remarks published online, she lambasted the company for putting out only “general ideas” about what it may or may not be able to put forward as a restructuring proposal. The interests of creditors would be better protected if Evergrande is wound up by the court, she said.

Fergus Saurin, a lawyer representing an ad hoc group of creditors, said Monday he was not surprised by the outcome.

“The company has failed to engage with us. There has been a history of last-minute engagement which has gone nowhere,” he said.

Saurin said that his team worked in good faith during the negotiations. Evergrande “only has itself to blame for being wound up,” he said.

Tiffany Wong, one of two liquidators appointed by the court from global services firm Alvarez & Marsal, said that their priority was to ensure that “as much of the business as possible (is) retained, restructured and remains operational.”

“We will pursue a structured approach to preserve and return value to the creditors and other stakeholders,” Wong said. That includes considering any viable restructuring proposals, she said.

Evergrande CEO Shawn Siu told Chinese news outlet 21Jingji that the company feels “utmost regret” at the liquidation order.

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He emphasized that the order affects only the Hong Kong-listed China Evergrande unit and that the group’s domestic and overseas units are independent legal entities. Siu said that Evergrande will strive to continue smooth operations and deliver properties to buyers.

Real estate drove China’s economic boom, but developers borrowed heavily as they turned cities into forests of apartment and office towers. That has helped to push total corporate, government and household debt to the equivalent of more than 300% of annual economic output, unusually high for a middle-income country.

Evergrande first defaulted on its financial obligations in 2021, just over a year after Beijing clamped down on lending to property developers to cool a property bubble.

As a former British colony, Hong Kong operates under a legal system that is separate, though increasingly influenced by, communist-ruled China’s. In some cases, mainland courts have recognized bankruptcy rulings in Hong Kong but analysts say Evergrande’s is something of a test case.

Brock Silvers, managing director at Kaiyuan Capital, said the liquidation order was likely to have more of an immediate impact on foreign investors and their confidence in China’s financial markets than on Evergrande’s operations in mainland China.

“So onshore, Evergrande tomorrow will look a lot like Evergrande yesterday, there won’t be a lot of noticeable difference,” he said.

Regulators need to restructure Evergrande and other struggling property developers, but it will be a complex and difficult process, said David Goodman, director of the China Studies Center at the University of Sydney.

“If the government could see simple answers to these problems, it would have reached them two to three years ago,” Goodman said.

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This has been breqing for several years, I wonder what this will do to the global housing market.

- They said they can control the economic waves.
But i seriously doubt that a colossal business like this, isnt snowball!

Someone who knows about economy can chime in?

Not insinuating that you dont know, but my passion are Haiti and afghanistan, dont know much outside of that!

And dinosaurs of course!:cool:
 
- They said they can control the economic waves.
But i seriously doubt that a colossal business like this, isnt snowball!

Someone who knows about economy can chime in?

I'm no economics master, but having a company liquidate while it holds $300 billion in debt is gonna be massive. I mean, it could spell the end the China as we know it.

How much money can they recoup from the liquidation? I doubt it will be much more than a few billion at best. And the holder of a huge portion of that debt, are the regular chinese middle class. People who put their life savings into real estate only to see it all go away.

With a stroke, this will impoverish millions. Hell, probably hundreds of millions. This would be the equivalent of 3 or 4 of our major banks simply vanishing. And with no government bailout to the people who had their money with them.
 
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I'm not economics master, but having a company liquidate while it holds $300 billion in debt is gonna be massive. I mean, it could spell the end the China as we know it.

How much money can they recoup from the liquidation? I doubt it will be much more than a few billion at best. And the holder of a huge portion of that debt, are the regular chinese middle class. People who put their life savings into real estate only to see it all go away.

With a stroke, this will impoverish millions. Hell, probably hundreds of millions. This would be the equivalent of 3 or 4 of our major banks simply vanishing. And with no government bailout to the people who had their money with them.

- I thought that. This is the money that very few sheiks have on their accounts. How cant not spirral on some massive loss around the globe?

We see smaller cars manufactures break and descend into chaos. Can only imagine a enterprise huge like that.

And the holder of a huge portion of that debt, are the regular chinese middle class. People who put their life savings into real estate only to see it all go away.
- We have several chinese people here. They own a lot of business. The one i know, started with a very little store, on a very bad place here, now a couple of years late, she is on a bigger one. I used to go on christimas, even when theres little public, they were open.

I've read they usually bough real stateon other countries.
 
China gonna need a bail out, we better start firing up them money printers
 
BY KANIS LEUNG AND ZEN SOO
Updated 9:59 AM BRT, January 29, 2024

HONG KONG (AP) — A Hong Kong court ordered China Evergrande, the world’s most heavily indebted real estate developer, to undergo liquidation following a failed effort to restructure $300 billion owed to banks and bondholders that fueled fears about China’s rising debt burden.
“It would be a situation where the court says enough is enough,” Judge Linda Chan said Monday. She said it was appropriate for the court to order Evergrande to wind up its business given a “lack of progress on the part of the company putting forward a viable restructuring proposal” as well as Evergrande’s insolvency.

bj77ccuunpd71.png

China Evergrande Group is among dozens of Chinese developers that have collapsed since 2020 under official pressure to rein in surging debt the ruling Communist Party views as a threat to China’s slowing economic growth.

But the crackdown on excess borrowing tipped the property industry into crisis, dragging on the economy and rattling financial systems in and outside China.

Chinese regulators have said the risks of global shockwaves from Evergrande’s failure can be contained. The court documents seen Monday showed Evergrande owes about $25.4 billion to foreign creditors. Its total assets of about $240 billion are dwarfed by its total liabilities.


“It is indisputable that the company is grossly insolvent and is unable to pay its debts,” the documents say.

About 90% of Evergrande’s business is in mainland China. Its chairman, Hui Ka Yan, who is also known as Xu Jiayin, was detained by authorities for suspected “illegal crimes” in late September, further complicating the company’s efforts to recover.

It’s unclear how the liquidation order will affect China’s financial system or Evergrande’s operations as it struggles to deliver housing that has been paid for but not yet handed over to families that put their life savings into such investments.

13873227_1279130798778408_7873657789507279225_n.jpg

Evergrande’s Hong Kong-traded shares plunged nearly 21% early Monday before they were suspended from trading. But Hong Kong’s benchmark Hang Seng index was up 0.9% and some property developers saw gains in their share prices.

China’s largest real estate developer, Country Garden, initially gained nearly 3% but was flat. Sunac China Holdings rose 2.4%.

The Shanghai Composite index dropped 0.9% while Shenzhen’s A-share index fell more than 2%.

The Hong Kong court gave Evergrande a reprieve in December to allow it time to “refine” a new debt restructuring plan.

But Chan, the judge, said Evergrande “has not demonstrated that there is any useful purpose for the court to adjourn the petition — there is no restructuring proposal, let alone a viable proposal which has the support of the requisite majorities of the creditors.”

Evergrande-fachada.jpg

In remarks published online, she lambasted the company for putting out only “general ideas” about what it may or may not be able to put forward as a restructuring proposal. The interests of creditors would be better protected if Evergrande is wound up by the court, she said.

Fergus Saurin, a lawyer representing an ad hoc group of creditors, said Monday he was not surprised by the outcome.

“The company has failed to engage with us. There has been a history of last-minute engagement which has gone nowhere,” he said.

Saurin said that his team worked in good faith during the negotiations. Evergrande “only has itself to blame for being wound up,” he said.

Tiffany Wong, one of two liquidators appointed by the court from global services firm Alvarez & Marsal, said that their priority was to ensure that “as much of the business as possible (is) retained, restructured and remains operational.”

“We will pursue a structured approach to preserve and return value to the creditors and other stakeholders,” Wong said. That includes considering any viable restructuring proposals, she said.

Evergrande CEO Shawn Siu told Chinese news outlet 21Jingji that the company feels “utmost regret” at the liquidation order.

31939081434_63f26d7a49.jpg

He emphasized that the order affects only the Hong Kong-listed China Evergrande unit and that the group’s domestic and overseas units are independent legal entities. Siu said that Evergrande will strive to continue smooth operations and deliver properties to buyers.

Real estate drove China’s economic boom, but developers borrowed heavily as they turned cities into forests of apartment and office towers. That has helped to push total corporate, government and household debt to the equivalent of more than 300% of annual economic output, unusually high for a middle-income country.

Evergrande first defaulted on its financial obligations in 2021, just over a year after Beijing clamped down on lending to property developers to cool a property bubble.

As a former British colony, Hong Kong operates under a legal system that is separate, though increasingly influenced by, communist-ruled China’s. In some cases, mainland courts have recognized bankruptcy rulings in Hong Kong but analysts say Evergrande’s is something of a test case.

Brock Silvers, managing director at Kaiyuan Capital, said the liquidation order was likely to have more of an immediate impact on foreign investors and their confidence in China’s financial markets than on Evergrande’s operations in mainland China.

“So onshore, Evergrande tomorrow will look a lot like Evergrande yesterday, there won’t be a lot of noticeable difference,” he said.

Regulators need to restructure Evergrande and other struggling property developers, but it will be a complex and difficult process, said David Goodman, director of the China Studies Center at the University of Sydney.

“If the government could see simple answers to these problems, it would have reached them two to three years ago,” Goodman said.

31939082624_18a854e9c7.jpg

https://apnews.com/article/china-ev...dation-order-7965ab1ec2f0208c53f9298daf8b9fd0
do you create these lego pictures or do you find them somewhere?
 
I'm not economics master, but having a company liquidate while it holds $300 billion in debt is gonna be massive. I mean, it could spell the end the China as we know it.

How much money can they recoup from the liquidation? I doubt it will be much more than a few billion at best. And the holder of a huge portion of that debt, are the regular chinese middle class. People who put their life savings into real estate only to see it all go away.

With a stroke, this will impoverish millions. Hell, probably hundreds of millions. This would be the equivalent of 3 or 4 of our major banks simply vanishing. And with no government bailout to the people who had their money with them.

The CCP will prop up the system by bailing out the important and the well connected, further debasing an already worthless global currency.
 
While largely expected I wonder what this means for the huge number of zombie companies in China.
 
Nothing and no one, especially a company, should ever be this large.
 
Although this has taken years, it's still the biggest story and not just about financial loses. So many people invested life savings into the Chinese property market, let's see if there will be civil unrest and protests. Also this will have big implications of how foreign investors will be treated in Chinese bankruptcy proceedings.
 
America has bailed out trillions before so I don’t see why China can’t do it. There is a reason why these bailouts need to happen so the world doesn’t get fucked in the ass.
 
Oh well. Ponzi schemes usually don't last forever. I'm not surprised.
 
- They said they can control the economic waves.
But i seriously doubt that a colossal business like this, isnt snowball!

Someone who knows about economy can chime in?

Not insinuating that you dont know, but my passion are Haiti and afghanistan, dont know much outside of that!

And dinosaurs of course!:cool:
They say they can control the economic waves...except that if they were any good at forecasting economic outcomes, they wouldn't be in this situation to begin with.
 
They say they can control the economic waves...except that if they were any good at forecasting economic outcomes, they wouldn't be in this situation to begin with.

- That is true!
 
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