Carlos Monzon: Tell me about him.

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I never hear much about him, besides a lot of times seeing him as the TOP MW ever. I never see anydocumentaries about him or anything like that. Was he really that good? Where would you rank him?
 
He was good and definitely unique.

I mentioned some of his quirks in another thread. He was a flatter footed fighter , very lethargic in the ring. He pushed his punches, but still managed to have good power. That's really 'bad' technique, very unorthodox and not text book. Howver, he still managed to Defeat great boxer-fighters like Benny Briscoe and Nino Benvenuti. Minzon's early career was Rocky with him losing to regional/national talent. He decided to get serious and ended up going on an undefeated title run. Amazing stuff
 
One of the best "tall" fighters of all time. He was a 6'0 MW with a 76" reach and used every inch of it.

One of the best and underrated jabs in history. It appeared slow but was always accurate and had a pretty hard impact.

Great Right Hand. His Cross and Straight were also very accurate and were clubbers.

Great ring movement and making opponents fight at his pace.

Tremendous cardio. The amazing thing is he was a heavy drinker and smoker yet you would never know based off his performances. His ability to stay ridiculously calm and unfazed also played a factor into his ability to go the distance and get better as the fight went on.

Underrated defense. He was able to get out of the way of big punches very well and when backed into the ropes, use his shoulders to deflect shots and tie up his opponents until the ref separated.

He was physically very strong, tough as they come and had a granite chin.

 
Heard a bit about him lately, one of our boxing commentators over here compared GGG to him which sparked my interest.
 
He was good and definitely unique.

I mentioned some of his quirks in another thread. He was a flatter footed fighter , very lethargic in the ring. He pushed his punches, but still managed to have good power. That's really 'bad' technique, very unorthodox and not text book. Howver, he still managed to Defeat great boxer-fighters like Benny Briscoe and Nino Benvenuti. Minzon's early career was Rocky with him losing to regional/national talent. He decided to get serious and ended up going on an undefeated title run. Amazing stuff

I really don't think of Monzon that way. To me, he had great footwork. He cut off the ring very well and was nearly always in advantageous positions. He got his opponent to move where he wanted them to move. He had one of the best and most versatile jabs in MW history. In terms of his punching form, I think he threw one of the nicest right hands in MW history and he could get guys out of there with both hands. I think he was smart, skilled and extremely gritty.
 
I really don't think of Monzon that way. To me, he had great footwork. He cut off the ring very well and was nearly always in advantageous positions. He got his opponent to move where he wanted them to move. He had one of the best and most versatile jabs in MW history. In terms of his punching form, I think he threw one of the nicest right hands in MW history and he could get guys out of there with both hands. I think he was smart, skilled and extremely gritty.

I agree for the most part. I should make clear I wasn't criticizing his over all foot work, I just felt it contributed in part to his style of fighting which I was describing. Being flat footed, or sort of in his case, does not dictate ring generalship, cutting off the ring, and over all smart footwork/tactics. I can't really find the words to describe it. He's....listless in the ring. He was so calm and collected he looked almost disinterested. Meanwhile, his opponent is all eyes, juking, reflexes on over drive, and Monzon still had good defensive head and body movement.

His power hand was better than his jab IMO. Powerful and accurate. He pushed his jab though. A pushed punch stuffs an opponent rather than spapping an opponent like when you pitch a jab. I don't know enough theory to expand on that, I was correctly vigorously when I first started because I did it as well.

Agree with smart, skilled, gritty. When you break established traditions or form and still have success your all of those for sure.

I hope I was better able to describe myself.
 
I agree for the most part. I should make clear I wasn't criticizing his over all foot work, I just felt it contributed in part to his style of fighting which I was describing. Being flat footed, or sort of in his case, does not dictate ring generalship, cutting off the ring, and over all smart footwork/tactics. I can't really find the words to describe it. He's....listless in the ring. He was so calm and collected he looked almost disinterested. Meanwhile, his opponent is all eyes, juking, reflexes on over drive, and Monzon still had good defensive head and body movement.

His power hand was better than his jab IMO. Powerful and accurate. He pushed his jab though. A pushed punch stuffs an opponent rather than spapping an opponent like when you pitch a jab. I don't know enough theory to expand on that, I was correctly vigorously when I first started because I did it as well.

Agree with smart, skilled, gritty. When you break established traditions or form and still have success your all of those for sure.

I will agree that he certainly looked unique in the ring. There aren't a lot of fighters that really resembled his overall style and execution that I can think of. He really was one of the fighters that you could say looked at home in the ring. Exceptionally calm and clinical. Interestingly, it would seem he was rather the opposite of that outside of the ring (or maybe he was just a straight psychopath).
 
I will agree that he certainly looked unique in the ring. There aren't a lot of fighters that really resembled his overall style and execution that I can think of. He really was one of the fighters that you could say looked at home in the ring. Exceptionally calm and clinical. Interestingly, it would seem he was rather the opposite of that outside of the ring (or maybe he was just a straight psychopath).

He was born to be in the ring, like a veteran who can't adjust to civilian life. Train hard, box hard, drug and drink hard, repeat. Classic lifestyle of a drug addicted, socially delinquent boxer. Like the Black Murderers Row the violent lifestyle was brought outside the ring and it caught up to him.
 
One of the 3 greatest Latino fighters in the History of the Sport.

To put his freakish power into perspective, I think it was one-time opponent Denny Moyer (known for durability) who said: "He hit me so hard right between the eyes that I immediately thought I'd went blind."
 
One of the 3 greatest Latino fighters in the History of the Sport.

To put his freakish power into perspective, I think it was one-time opponent Denny Moyer (known for durability) who said: "He hit me so hard right between the eyes that I immediately thought I'd went blind."

Whoa! I knew Monzon had a clubbing right hand but I didn't know it was like that lol.
 
"Carlos Monzon? I could lose that fight. Monzon was tall, rangy, did everything right. I see myself losing that fight more than winning it."

-Bernard Hopkins
 
"Carlos Monzon? I could lose that fight. Monzon was tall, rangy, did everything right. I see myself losing that fight more than winning it."

-Bernard Hopkins

Interesting. Do you happen to remember the source in which Bernard said this.
 

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