Can a southpaw use mayweathers defense or philly shell?

[Almus Monk]

Just wondering is there any southpaws that use there defense like mayweather or hopkins? I know what mayweather uses isnt exactly the philly shell, Im new to boxing really when it comes to studying it.

I come from traditional martial arts style background like TKD, Karate, etc.
Ive done muay thai for over 4-5 years and started boxing a year ago.

I switch stance alot and when im on my right side, its easy to use my shoulders as a guard and try to mimic that shell.
But I have no idea how to use it one the left side?
I am a southpaw anyway, but for karate and TKD Id switch between right and southpaw.

Thanks

 

[Almus Monk]

And when I mean easy on my right side I dont mean Ive mastered it or anything like that. I mean it comes quite naturally and there is plenty of video for it for my basics

 

[JediMaster81]

nope

 

[JediMaster81]

maybe....

 

[JediMaster81]

yessss

 

[JediMaster81]

fuck i dont know

 

[Sinister]

I'd delete all those posts, but they're funny.

The answer is yes. Georgie Benton taught Pernell Whitaker a lot of the Shell.

 

[thugpoet]

It can b done left handed or not

 

[Lifer]

I don't think there's a lot of southpaws that use the philly shell because your right side which is where your liver side is exposed to body shots. you don't want that.

 

[mkoua]

I remember against slower fighters Winky Wright would sometimes switch it up to the shell

 

[Almus Monk]

What are the main things to worry about sinister or anyone else? Or things to look out for that work well?

 

[Sinister]

I don't think there's a lot of southpaws that use the philly shell because your right side which is where your liver side is exposed to body shots. you don't want that.

The liver is always on that side no matter what. And in the proper shell, it's not exposed to body shots at all.

 

[Sinister]

What are the main things to worry about sinister or anyone else? Or things to look out for that work well?

In what context? This is a little broad of a question.

 

[yeahhh]

The Art of Defensive Boxing - YouTube

 

[fightingrabbit]

Why the fuck not, it's a free country!

The question you should ask is why they'd want to use it.

 

[Almus Monk]

In what context? This is a little broad of a question.

Basically I thought the angles, counters and everything changes when you switch stance from right to southpaw, when tryin to use this shell. Just thinking basics

 

[Marvin Covar]

I don't see why not.

 

[wallysparx]

My boxing is more of an informal side project at my Muay Thai gym, with a few guys who used to box giving a few tips on the finer points of the sweet science. With that disclaimer, I'm a southpaw and do like to play with the philly shell with reasonable success. I catch the jabs on my shoulder, and rolling with the left hooks feels perfect to counter with my left cross. My lead arm protects the body pretty well, and my left hand sticks to my chin to catch the straight right (though of course I do my best to move out of the way first). I find myself most vulnerable to the left hook to the body, though they tend to land further back from where the liver is. And of course a quick, stiff right straight is always a threat.

 

[ssullivan80]

Of course. A angle is an angle and a counter a counter...... the side the shot comes from changes, but the principles are the same. Both Hopkins and Mayweather have successfully fought SP's with their style........ Their style is effective because they know how to use it and how to adapt it to their opponents. SP vs. Orth is irrelevant, the fighter makes that style effective vs. ineffective.

Lucian Bute is a southpaw who uses a similar style, works well for him. Chad Dawson has done the same (since E Steward took over he's gotten away from it though).

see clip

 

[superjatt]

one of the amateur boxers at my gym is a southpaw uses the philly shell and is a very good boxer with some very good defense.