Boxing bends over backwards to turn away potential fans.

[MC Paul Barman]

Aside from the litany of other problems with boxing (promoters who don't regularly give meaningful fights... boxers not working with their promoters to make meaningful fights... boxers who underwhelm the fans when they're actually in the ring)....

What a terribly shitty product in which your showcase match airs at 12:30 fucking AM (central time... those poor souls on the Pacific coast).... after what, 35 minutes of mariachi music? Now that's a great way to win over the imaginations of young fans. Great production work there. Might as well have grandmothers knitting scarves being showcased.

This was the first big fight I have watched in awhile. My son was actually interested in wanting to see it. He slipped off into the land of nod by 11:20pm.... Prior to that he got to be amazed at watching that all too regular spectacle of a SPLIT DRAW. "Oh wow, no one actually wins.... how entertaining!!".

Fighters that seem like they would rather be fencing... outcomes where voila: no actual winner. More mariachi music than you typically hear in a decade. Main fight start times that make it the goal to outsprint the interests of the potential fans and current fans.


What a horse shit of a product that boxing all to often offers up.

 

[Dr Fong]

OP has always been a UFC mark. Go back to the heavies.

 

[MC Paul Barman]

OP has always been a UFC mark. Go back to the heavies.

Not quite

 

[mozfonky]

Aside from the litany of other problems with boxing (promoters who don't regularly give meaningful fights... boxers not working with their promoters to make meaningful fights... boxers who underwhelm the fans when they're actually in the ring)....

What a terribly shitty product in which your showcase match airs at 12:30 fucking AM (central time... those poor souls on the Pacific coast).... after what, 35 minutes of mariachi music? Now that's a great way to win over the imaginations of young fans. Great production work there. Might as well have grandmothers knitting scarves being showcased.

This was the first big fight I have watched in awhile. My son was actually interested in wanting to see it. He slipped off into the land of nod by 11:20pm.... Prior to that he got to be amazed at watching that all too regular spectacle of a SPLIT DRAW. "Oh wow, no one actually wins.... how entertaining!!".

Fighters that seem like they would rather be fencing... outcomes where voila: no actual winner. More mariachi music than you typically hear in a decade. Main fight start times that make it the goal to outsprint the interests of the potential fans and current fans.


What a horse shit of a product that boxing all to often offers up.

i hardly watch anymore, tough seeing something you love change so much.

 

[treelo]

i remember as a kid growing up i couldnt stand the national anthems being played, i just wanted to see the fighters go at it, this latest trend of having people singing and such is just awful, but youngsters arent watching boxing anymore, so they need to do something to try and lure them in

 

[CatchnShoot]

Aside from the litany of other problems with boxing (promoters who don't regularly give meaningful fights... boxers not working with their promoters to make meaningful fights... boxers who underwhelm the fans when they're actually in the ring)....

What a terribly shitty product in which your showcase match airs at 12:30 fucking AM (central time... those poor souls on the Pacific coast).... after what, 35 minutes of mariachi music? Now that's a great way to win over the imaginations of young fans. Great production work there. Might as well have grandmothers knitting scarves being showcased.

This was the first big fight I have watched in awhile. My son was actually interested in wanting to see it. He slipped off into the land of nod by 11:20pm.... Prior to that he got to be amazed at watching that all too regular spectacle of a SPLIT DRAW. "Oh wow, no one actually wins.... how entertaining!!".

Fighters that seem like they would rather be fencing... outcomes where voila: no actual winner. More mariachi music than you typically hear in a decade. Main fight start times that make it the goal to outsprint the interests of the potential fans and current fans.


What a horse shit of a product that boxing all to often offers up.

That you are whining about the "split draw" fight says it all. That was epic, and a proper outcome.
YOU used to be good ppl... wtf happened to you?

 

[treelo]

That you are whining about the "split draw" fight says it all. That was epic, and a proper outcome.
YOU used to be good ppl... wtf happened to you?

yeah, that fight was one for the ages, neither of those guys deserved to lose due to suspect judging, basically a Gatti-Ward fight in the modern era

 

[Zyklon R]

OP has always been a UFC mark. Go back to the heavies.

No he's not actually

 

[MayweatherisTBE]

OP has always been a UFC mark. Go back to the heavies.

Is he wrong, though?

 

[CatchnShoot]

Is he wrong, though?

Yes.

This fight was viewed GLOBALLY, in the top spot for Netflix in over 30 countries, and top 10 in 90. It's safe to say that his complaints about "Time" are egocentric, and as it was NOT a ppv event, the focus on USA audience is much less than it would have otherwise been. To quote the great Punk band "The Exploited"



Boxing events are nearly always comprised of ONE major fight and a bunch of lesser known fighters, the casual audience doesn't have the time or the desire to spend all day watching an entire card, that's only for the hardcore fans. The ME will have a set walk out time, and everything else is in service of that event. If a 12 round fight ends in 3... you've got space to fill...because contractually, those ME fighters aren't moving until it's showtime. In teh UFC, the fighters are like the canvass...Dana Says "Pick that Cotton" and it gets done.

In Boxing, the fighters are supposed to come first, and the idea is that preparation and warm ups at this level are critical to in ring performance, and so you don't fuck with the ME's feng shui.

Boxing used to make good use of dead air with swing bouts..... ie) if they had time to kill they put in a 4 or 6 rounder in between full length features, but that has mainly gone by the wayside. I'd like to think it's because they want to be fair to the fighters, and it's shit to not know if/when you are fighting, but "fair to the fighters" isn't how any prize fight runs, so I'm sure there are ulterior motives.
But, as a Boxing fan, I know that if a 10/12 rounder ends, I've got time to make a drink/shower, whatever ...the UFC uses WMMA for that purpose.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Boxing is dead (for real this time!)

 

[borntoloseNOT]

I actually thought part of Tool showing up, and then the rest of the live performances were really cool. I wasn’t a fan of the draws either, that sucked. But at least the main event delivered and we got a definitive winner.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

I actually thought part of Tool showing up, and then the rest of the live performances were really cool. I wasn’t a fan of the draws either, that sucked. But at least the main event delivered and we got a definitive winner.

They're one of my favorite bands of all time. Too bad Maynard wasn't there.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

They're one of my favorite bands of all time. Too bad Maynard wasn't there.

They were influential to me early on when I first started taking to musical instruments, thought it was a cool choice. I really liked Canelos walkout music too.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Tool was performing back in the 90s and some crazy fan hopped up on stage. Maynard casually tossed him to the ground, took his back, and then simulated a rear naked choke. He then proceeded to sit on the guy for 10 minutes. Where was their security? No clue. This guy was lucky that he didn't get punched out.

 

[DougieJones]

I'm a boxing casual but very much enjoyed that fight

 

[PBAC]

i remember as a kid growing up i couldnt stand the national anthems being played, i just wanted to see the fighters go at it, this latest trend of having people singing and such is just awful, but youngsters arent watching boxing anymore, so they need to do something to try and lure them in

It is ranked as one of the most popular sports among US youth. If you look outside the main promotions you will notice they are ramping up an effort to rope in gen z.

 

[JoeBobbaLou2]

I enjoyed the fight because I wagered heavy on Crawford and it was a masterclass display of skill

 

[treelo]

It is ranked as one of the most popular sports among US youth. If you look outside the main promotions you will notice they are ramping up an effort to rope in gen z.

for Americas sake, lets hope some of them are taking up the sport, i suspect the demographic that are young and watching boxing are probably not going to be the types to walk into a gym because they have fuck all else to do

 

[MC Paul Barman]

That you are whining about the "split draw" fight says it all. That was epic, and a proper outcome.
YOU used to be good ppl... wtf happened to you?

Split draws happen so regularly on these cards. Rarely should it be the case where both fighters just happen to be equally effective whereas to warrant a split draw. Should it happen, certainly. Not to this extent though.