boxers that don't watch tape?

[Terrible]

mayweather for example claims he doesn't watch tape, he just leaves it to roger. does anyone seriously believe any of these boxers especially some greats like money that claim they don't watch tape. i know some boxers don't wanna psych themselves out by watchin their opponents whoopin ass but c'mon, i just can't imagine money not watchin tape.

 

[Seano]

mayweather for example claims he doesn't watch tape, he just leaves it to roger. does anyone seriously believe any of these boxers especially some greats like money that claim they don't watch tape. i know some boxers don't wanna psych themselves out by watchin their opponents whoopin ass but c'mon, i just can't imagine money not watchin tape.

I've heard some boxers do that to be prepared and not get stuck with a gameplan when a fghter comes in doing something you didn't see on a tape.

I'm pretty sure Cotto and MArquez have both said they don't watch tapes either.

 

[Pro**]

The trainers produce the fight plan so they watch the tape.

The fighter listens to the trainers fight plan so they don't need to watch the tape.

 

[JEMtheROCK]

boxers arent scientists. they leave the hard work to the trainers to break it down for them.

 

[Sinister]

Most of the Fighters who don't watch tape are thinkers, and they tend to over-think and over-analyze if they see the opposition beforehand. Plus, to be a thinking Fighter and execute properly there has to be adaptability. Outside eyes are best for this, and the Fighter's mind tends to need to be clear in order to make adjustments in the middle of a bout, rather than being baffled because a guy is doing something no tape revealed they were capable of.

 

[the absurdist]

Most of the Fighters who don't watch tape are thinkers, and they tend to over-think and over-analyze if they see the opposition beforehand. Plus, to be a thinking Fighter and execute properly there has to be adaptability. Outside eyes are best for this, and the Fighter's mind tends to need to be clear in order to make adjustments in the middle of a bout, rather than being baffled because a guy is doing something no tape revealed they were capable of.

So boxers who watch tape are usually more aggressive fighters?

 

[5acrossYOeye]

my reasoning would've been...it looks different when fighting as supposed to watch via TV. for example...watching kevin kelly's left hand on TV can't look the same when he's actually throwing it at you.

no deception on TV.

 

[Producer1]

The way I hear the story, Smokin' Joe didn't watch tape of Ali, Eddie Futch did and it was Futch who told him to watch Ali's right hand.

That strategy worked out pretty well at the Garden, so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Floyd does leave it to Roger to watch the tape. It would certainly be a way of keeping Roger busy and out of trouble...

 

[Sinister]

So boxers who watch tape are usually more aggressive fighters?

Ironically most of the Fighters I've ever met who watch tape, or seen say they watch tape, were the brawler types, and I think they look for how a guy handles it when being put under pressure. They usually don't give a shit what the guy is gonna do, that doesn't matter, but will he back up? Does he run? That sort of thing.

my reasoning would've been...it looks different when fighting as supposed to watch via TV. for example...watching kevin kelly's left hand on TV can't look the same when he's actually throwing it at you.

Well, you wouldn't watch tape to see if a guy can throw a punch per se. His record can tell you that. But like Roach said, you watch for habits. Kevin could throw some bombs, but he fell in love with his ability to do so and was willing to take damage to land. Hence, why he lost when he did, and he never quite could correct that.

The way I hear the story, Smokin' Joe didn't watch tape of Ali, Eddie Futch did and it was Futch who told him to watch Ali's right hand.

As a guy who trains under a guy who trained under Futch, I can honestly tell you that from everything I've heard non-stop about Futch for the past 3 years, you didn't have to know jack shit about your opponent if Eddie was in your corner.

 

[Strigiform]

The trainers produce the fight plan so they watch the tape.

The fighter listens to the trainers fight plan so they don't need to watch the tape.

There are certain things language or even sparring may not convey the way seeing first-hand how your opponent executes a technique would convey. At the highest level in any human specialization, the devil separating that individual is in the subtle details.

I'm sure some fighters genuinely do not watch the tape due to not wanting to become bogged down in specifics, or some merely assigning their trainer to that role, but I'm sure some others do watch the tape & are just putting on a nonchalant facade in saying they didn't watch their opponent before a fight.

 

[Terrible]

interesting stuff guys especially on hos the more agressive guys watch tape as opposed to the technical guys, i guess that takes some serious trust in your trainer

 

[Sinister]

I'm sure some fighters genuinely do not watch the tape due to not wanting to become bogged down in specifics, or some merely assigning their trainer to that role, but I'm sure some others do watch the tape & are just putting on a nonchalant facade in saying they didn't watch their opponent before a fight.

I really don't know why you'd be so sure of that. It's not as if a Fighter "assigns" the trainer to watch tape. That's Historically the trainer's job and why guys like Futch, Bouie Fisher, D'Amato, Sadler, the great trainers of old, they were the ones to break down an opponent and formulate plans of attack for their Fighters. Their eyes were far more educated than the Fighter's. I guess nowadays with fly-by-night trainers it seems less applicable, but when you talk about guys like Steward, Roach, Goosen, Richardson, Perez, Morales, Cotto, Reid, the Fighter is better-served letting them do their task and focusing on training up what they're told and being in-shape.