BJJ and Skin Infections

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Hi Everyone,

I have been doing BJJ for about a month now, and I have never had more fun or lost more weight in my life. However, recently I have been reading about heath hazards that are associated with BJJ.

I was hoping that someone could give me some info on how common Mat Herpes (Virus type 1) is with BJJ patrons. I only participate in full GI classes.

The issue is, I have mild to sever Eczema on a lot of my body, and because of this, my immune system isn't very strong, so the idea of having ANOTHER skin issue is a definite no no. I have been reading the horror stories of people contracting Herpes type 1 from wrestling and BJJ clubs. Is this common, or am I just hearing the worst of the worst?

Should I just stick to kick boxing? It's fun...but not as fun...
 
Mat Herpes is not really likely.

However, you will at some point get staph and ringworm but that is a bacteria and a fungus, not viral.
 
No. You need to learn how to take care of yourself. Anti-Bacterial soap and Hand Sanitizer is a must in your gear bag. Anywhere you go no matter how hard or slow you train. I personally use this:

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Tea tree oil is believed to be able to get rid of the skins bacteria such as ringworm (before it happens of course) and other bad shit and also heal wounds. I've been using this after my first ringworm on my arm and haven't got it back ever since. I strongly recommend it.
 
Herpes Gladiatorum is quite rare unless a gym and it's people are extremely dirty and not cleaned properly.


Tinea infections (ringworm, jock itch, athlete's foot) are much more common and will be a bigger issue for you with your history of autoimmune dermatitis particularly if your sites of inflammation frequently have cracked or broken skin and even more so if you are using an immunosuppresant therapy as part of your protocol.

Ultimately you need to do the same thing everyone else does.

Launder all your gear (in this case the Gi) immediately after training, shower immediately after training and wash every inch with an antifungal soap such as Defense or Dr Bronnar's (I find Defense stronger but Bronnars is easier to find in stores if you aren't ordering Defense online and your coach does not carry it in the gym).

With your history, use moisturizer. Dry damaged skin is far more likely to crack and tear due to the shearing forces often seen in grappling. Anytime the skin is broken open you have a greater risk for skin infections.

Tinea and MRSA are what you really need to worry about. Herpes Gladiatorum I've really never heard of outside of really dirty gyms that don't clean their mats and bags.


That being said, even if they are more common people still go years without getting these skin issues if they are using proper hygeine.

In the last two years I've only ever had one skin issue, a spot of ringworm on my finger, and I treated it with a topical antifungal and it was dead and gone in two days after noticing and treating it.

Don't let hypochondria get the better of you, just follow proper hygeine guidelines.
 
News flash Herpes Gladitorium is the same as Herpes simplex type 1 (cold sores), except that it can be anywhere on the head.
 
It's pretty uncommon. At my gym, we had one case of ringworm, and one case of staph. Both of those infections came from outside the gym, and weren't spread to anyone else. As long as they club you're at cleans the mats daily, and your partners come to class clean, the risk isn't very big.

Over a long enough time span, you very well might catch ringworm, or maybe staph, but very seldom is it severe. The "horror" stories you find online are really the extreme cases. I have some moderate eczema, too, and my concern is just paying attention to any rashes that show up. If they're in unusual places, or don't seem like your usual eczema then get them checked out. If you think it might be "spider bites," it's probably not spider bites.

If you catch it early, some cream and maybe a pill, and you'll be good to go in no time. Really, compared to all of the other possible injuries, minor skin infections are pretty easy to deal with.
 
If you visit this thread http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f1...ng-after-training-rolling-2414829/index6.html

You will find our prevention tips as well as an article I prepared on your normal skin flora.

Please feel free to contact us anytime with questions or concerns.

Guy
Defense Soap

Prevention Tips

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Here is our list of prevention tips. Hope it helps.


We all know that wrestlers and fighters are special athletes. Along with being special athletes come special needs. Staying healthy and free from infections is one of these needs.

The most important step we can take toward preventing and curing skin infections is to educate ourselves. Once we are properly educated we can begin to lay a solid foundation, brick by brick, for healthy, infection tolerant skin.

Skin infections are caused by three different sources:

1. Fungus (most common is Tinea)
--Causes ringworm, jock itch, athlete’s foot, and infected nails
2. Bacteria
--Causes Staph, impetigo and MRSA
3. Virus
--Causes Herpes and warts


Our skin surface is made up of our own unique balance of these three sources. This is called our normal flora. When our flora is out of balance and/or our skin becomes damaged. These sources have a chance to become infections.

Showering immediately after practice sounds like a simple enough way to prevent skin infections, but did you know that if you go straight to the shower and use an antibacterial soap only, you are promoting the growth of fungal infections?

--Antibacterial soaps do just what they state- they kill bacteria. This is great when we
want to protect ourselves from just bacterial infections. This is not great when we
are also exposed to fungal and viral infections.

--Antibacterial soaps strip away the bacteria that keep the balance of our normal flora
leaving behind fungal and viral infections to flourish. The bacterium on your skin
are needed to compete for space with the fungi and viruses to create your normal
flora.

--Antibacterial soaps commonly use Triclosan as their active ingredient. Triclosan is
an FDA approved pesticide that some studies show is absorbed through our skin.

Showering tips for wrestlers and fighters:

--Do not lather directly under the flow of water. Allow soap to remain on skin
momentarily.


--Use a loofa (mesh sponge) but not too vigorously. Vigorous scrubbing will cause
small abrasions to the surface of the skin allowing penetration by the sources of
infection.

--Wash the back of the neck and hairline thoroughly. The Collar Tie is responsible
for the over abundance of skin infections found here. Our hands touch everything
in the wrestling room including the mats, our bodies, our opponent’s body and
anything else you might pick up. Everything collected by our hands is transferred
to the back of our opponent’s neck. Wash this area twice.

--Wear shower shoes. Athlete’s foot is caused by the same Tinea (fungus) that causes
ringworm.

--Do not share towels and wash towels after each use.

--Dry off thoroughly.

--Wear loose fitting clothes to allow your skin to breath.

We also need to protect ourselves on the mats. We all know that the mats are a battlefield. They are a place we go to compete or to train and prepare for competition.
Part of this preparation and training should include proper hygiene. Here are a few tips that can help in the room.

--Carry your shoes to practice. When leaving the room for water or bathroom breaks
wipe your shoes before entering back into the room. Shoes can be wiped on a towel
dampened with solution from your bucket of mat cleaner. Wet the towel in the
bucket before cleaning the mats.

--Fighters who train barefoot should never walk on the floor without proper foot
coverings. The foot coverings should always be removed before entering the mats
or ring.

--Change your shirt often during practice. Once a shirt becomes soaked in sweat it
becomes permeable. Your sweat becomes a vehicle for infections to pass through
your clothing and onto your skin.

--Wear a thick cotton t-shirt or clothing made of synthetic fibers that "wick" the sweat
away from the body, helping to keep the skin dry.

--When sitting on the wall do not play with the mats. Wrestlers often lean with their
backs against the wall with their hands at their sides touching the edges of the mats
along the wall. Take a look at what is in between the wall and the edge of the mat.
When was the last time this area was cleaned and when was the last time your wall
mats were cleaned?

--Do not train with partners who have skin infections and do not train if you yourself
are infected.

--Cover and treat any trauma to the skin including, cuts, scrapes, and new tattoos.
New tattoos are the product of the skin being pierced literally thousands of times.
Always apply an antibiotic ointment or healing slave before covering for added
protection. Of course this is going to fall of during training and will have to be
recovered.

--When leaving the room always, always, always, consider yourself contaminated-
because you are. Shower immediately and properly. If a shower is not available
use a body wipe to hold you over until you can shower.

Having a clean room is also a necessity but a clean room is more then just mopping the mats. There are many more surfaces that we come in contact with other than floor mats.
Consider cleaning the following:

--Wall mats.

--Takedown dummies. (Remove the clothing and launder it and wipe down vinyl
surfaces.)

--Throw dummies.

--Crash pads or throw mats.

--Fighters, wipe down your bags, bag gloves and your hands after wearing bag gloves.

--Fungi like to live in damp and dark places. Make your room light and dry. A
dehumidifier can pull moisture out of your room.

Battling skin infections is more then just topical. Diet can play a huge role in how healthy our skin is and healthy skin is harder to infect. Here are a few diet and skin care tips:

--Keep your blood sugars under control. Aim for blood sugars of 80 mg/dl to
120 mg/dl before meals, and 100 mg/dl to 140 mg/dl at bedtime.

--Keep your Hemoglobin A1c at 7% or less (a 3 month average blood sugar test).
This prevents dry skin.

--Drink eight glasses of water a day. Of course when cutting weight we all would love
to have eight glasses of water however we just cannot do this. Applying lotion to
the skin will help keep it moist.

--Eat whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables and small amounts of lean protein
rather then sugary or fat laden foods. Keep a balanced diet even when cutting
back.

--Rest to increase your body’s resistance. You will catch infections easier if you
are worn down.

Once infected, proper care is required to rid you of the infection and promote healing.

--Do not touch the infection. Wash your hands immediately if you do touch an
infection.

--Consult your trainer or physician with all possible infections. The sooner you treat
an infection the less established it will be. The infection will be easier to clear up,
creating less damage to the skin.

--Use medicine completely and as recommended. The infection may still be present
even though it may not be visible.

--Use the proper medication for each infection. Using the wrong medicine my make
the infection worse. An example of this is using cortisone creams on fugal
infections which help fungus grow.

Many of us train for hours a day for competition, some are coaches and some just want to stay in shape. Whatever reason we have to be on the mat or in the ring, we all share the common threat of skin infections. Preventing, treating and curing skin infections can be made easier with a little education on the topic.


Guy Sako
Defense Soap LLC
216-255-8748
www.DefenseSoap.com


This is gold, I never really considered paying extra attention to washing out the hairline / collar tie area until I read this in a different thread last year.

Putting the whole thing up for anyone to lazy to follow a link, I presume Guy is ok with that ;)
 
If people have plantar warts and are still on the mat that is disgusting
 
The real killer in BJJ is not skin infections but is, in fact, Super AIDS.
 
If people have plantar warts and are still on the mat that is disgusting

To be fair someone might not actually know what they are. When I was a 2-stripe whitebelt I got molluscum contagiosum on the inside of my arm. I rolled with it for about two weeks - my thinking was "oh, it's just a rash" and didn't think it was infectious. I went to a physician and they diagnosed it - when I found out that it was infectious I stayed off until it was 100% gone, of course. If they weren't into physical activities before BJJ they've probably got no experience or knowledge of things like ringworm, molluscum, staph, et cetera.
 
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