BJJ and Judo coexistence in the same gym

[Italianissimo]

Do you have experience living together in the same gym or under the same roof as Judo and BJJ?
Was there a good development of both or was coexistence difficult?

 

[winterbike]

My gym offers both. Usually the crowds don't mix, but once in a while we'll try each other's stuff. One judo black belt is also a brown belt in BJJ and teaches a no gi class.

It's a peaceful coexistence and we respect each other's arts. Personally I'd do judo with them if I had the time, but having kids killed that dream.

 

[RemyR]

Lots of places cross train

 

[DoctorTaco]

It all depends on the owner/head coach. You will inevitability be a bjj gym with a judo program or a judo gym with a bjj program.

 

[winterbike]

What is the schedule of the classes? Do they have the same number of lessons per week?

3 judo classes per week, 12 BJJ classes per week. It's a BJJ gym first, but the judo club was looking for mat space.

 

[kintana]

I usually see the judo guys go into BJJ more than BJJ guys go into Judo.

Normally it is quite nice harmony between the two.

One gym I trained at the judo mentality was "If he dies he dies" alla Rocky 4. Lots of BJJ guys did not like the crazy throws. I remember in Judo we practiced break falls like 30 times a day.

 

[winterbike]

Only amateur athletes in the Judo classes or even competitors? And what age do they generally are?

Kids classes and amateurs mostly. Middle-aged people, like most of my gym.

 

[Bigboot]

We’ve got both and at one point if you didn’t attend judo you might be stuck at a belt for an unknown amount of time.

it wasn’t in writing anywhere but let’s just say coach was a little sick of guard pulling.


We’re lucky that we have a lot of high level wrestlers at our school so takedowns can’t be taken lightly.

We also offer wrestling, boxing and Muay Thai but none of it is required.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

I train at 2 dojos
My main one is only Judo, but a couple of BJJ guys do come down on occasion

Another gym is a bjj/judo gym. Only a few of the BJJ guys train Judo, but quite a few of the Judo guys cross over

They seem to coexist, but from my knowledge some of the BJJ guys look down on Judo and think it's completely pointless, because they can just pull guard or attack the legs, so don't need to learn as it's inferior

 

[Quebec Nick]

I train at 2 dojos
My main one is only Judo, but a couple of BJJ guys do come down on occasion

Another gym is a bjj/judo gym. Only a few of the BJJ guys train Judo, but quite a few of the Judo guys cross over

They seem to coexist, but from my knowledge some of the BJJ guys look down on Judo and think it's completely pointless, because they can just pull guard or attack the legs, so don't need to learn as it's inferior

At least I'm honest, I don't train judo because it's too rough for my old body

Saying that such a great grappling art is pointless is pretty stupid. We have had a bunch of very high level judo guys that come train BJJ and they have incredible strenghts in their game. Grips, balance, momentum, energy and aggressivity

Just be honest guys, it's tough to train, it's tough to learn and you can't keep up with it

 

[Dana's Moonface]

At least I'm honest, I don't train judo because it's too rough for my old body

Saying that such a great grappling art is pointless is pretty stupid. We have had a bunch of very high level judo guys that come train BJJ and they have incredible strenghts in their game. Grips, balance, momentum, energy and aggressivity

Just be honest guys, it's tough to train, it's tough to learn and you can't keep up with it

It is extremely tough on the body
I am thinking of cutting it to just one 2 hour session per week and start training more BJJ

 

[Quebec Nick]

It is extremely tough on the body
I am thinking of cutting it to just one 2 hour session per week and start training more BJJ

At some point, you need to act your own age lol

But it's not only for combat sports, I have friends that stopped playing soccer because making quick cuts and accelerations on grass isn't that good for old joints.

Same thing with hockey, at some point you need to stop playing super competitive with checking and all that stuff


BJJ is super soft for older people, you can learn, you can get better, you can compete and work hard in the gym. With some proper S&C on the side, you can do this for years and make young people a run for their money.

Being 40 and giving a run for their money to 25 years old blue belts, even physically, is the joy of my life

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

We do lots of judo stuff but don't have a dedicated class for it. I've seen gyms with both and they seem to enjoy it.

 

[DoctorTaco]

At some point, you need to act your own age lol

But it's not only for combat sports, I have friends that stopped playing soccer because making quick cuts and accelerations on grass isn't that good for old joints.

Same thing with hockey, at some point you need to stop playing super competitive with checking and all that stuff


BJJ is super soft for older people, you can learn, you can get better, you can compete and work hard in the gym. With some proper S&C on the side, you can do this for years and make young people a run for their money.

Being 40 and giving a run for their money to 25 years old blue belts, even physically, is the joy of my life

Basketball has wrecked more than a few guys who are 40+ and playing pick up games at the gym.

 

[ChickenBrother]

Basketball has wrecked more than a few guys who are 40+ and playing pick up games at the gym.

And this is understandable when you consider what goes down during those games:



LOL let's face it, if you're a 40+ white guy you probably shouldn't be doing pick up games on public basketball courts acting like you own the place. This isn't a Wesley Snipes movie FFS.

 

[Quebec Nick]

Basketball has wrecked more than a few guys who are 40+ and playing pick up games at the gym.

You can still do sports at 40

But run in a straight line, don't cut, sprint, break and change directions

We are too old for this shit

 

[DoctorTaco]

You can still do sports at 40

But run in a straight line, don't cut, sprint, break and change directions

We are too old for this shit

im a boxing coach with enough juice in the tank to impress my team for 6 seconds at a time

 

[Little Mac]

We do not cross Train Judo at our Gym. However for myself I have been adding Judo into my BJJ game on my own with help of my professor.

 

[HunterAcosta]

Judos best started when young tbh. All it takes is one bad fall/breakfall and when youre 50 like me,its over athletically, at lease the same way you were before. Not worth it. Beautiful art thought, imo, wrestling is more bang for your buck and is simpler to learn.

 

[shunyata]

Basketball has wrecked more than a few guys who are 40+ and playing pick up games at the gym.

I'd say basketball and soccer are much more popular old dude hobbyist sports, and I know plenty of people in bjj / sub grappling who wrecked their knees in football / basketball / soccer. Also know plenty of guys who don't touch combat sports, but fuck up their ACLs and Achilles' tendons with hobbyist basketball / soccer in the 30 - 65 year old range.

And then there's mountain biking.

Holy shit. Whole nother can of worms.