International Bernie Sanders Spoke Out Against Open Borders in 2015

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For the record I understand that capitalism isnt a political system, however economic systems correlate to the political systems they're employed in. Or vice versa. Also Im not a full-on communist, I do believe that in some sectors private enterprise is faster, better, more efficient. What I'm saying is that capitalism + right wing + Government structured to protect capital interests was always a breeding ground for fascism. I hope you've spent a lot of time reading about early American uprisings, why they happened, and what the people wanted. Also why our History has been re-written worth hogwash "great man" narratives such as Henry Ford "inventing" the 40hr work week and the weekend off when the truth is he detested the idea, and Unions had been pushing for those things since the 1800's.

See my question about "true capitalism" is "why do you own an apple orchard?" Who decided that? Apple orchards grow. Orange groves grow. These things easily outlive us, why are we arbitrarily squabbling over "ownership?" There's almost no way to "own" such things without either violent acts, or threats.pf violence. And I say that as a guy with fruit trees and some vegetable and spice plants in my backyard. Just the good fortune of the house my family moved into. And Ive explained to my Sons that in the event of Zombie Apocalypse, like some of their favorite movies, we would NEED to be armed to protect those resources because there will be armed people who will eventually start to starve while we have growing food. Also explained to them how bartering works being as I've had the misfortune of experiencing Mad Max in the wake of natural disaster. People become communists almost immediately when society deconstructs that way:

Just wanted to not here that there's no hostility on my side, nor am I attempting to belittle you with any comparisons. I really appreciate the discussion.

I think in the simplest terms is that no matter what political/economical system you implement there is a danger for people to leverage it to their own greed or nefarious intent. It's just something that happens.

I'm not sure I'm qualified enough to answer your orchard question within the confines here, because it's both very complex and enormous in depth. However, it's important to define what ownership means and the effort it takes to produce. I love, absolutely LOVE, unions and co-ops. The problem is in the drive for profit and not for sustainability. The hard question behind hard socialist policies is the conglomeration of power and the dictation of resources. It's such a large country, and world, that you inevitably place the trust of administration to others. It also assumes that everyone contributes equally, which is never the case.

I appreciate it, again! It's okay to be fearful of hierarchy and authority. It's actually pretty American. I just want the best for everyone, that also, wants the best for everyone.