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I started this new thread because I have questions and there seems to be a lot of conflicting information here and all over the web about this...here goes.

I'm 35 years old, Louisville KY native. I started training in boxing about 4 months ago. Before that, I was going to the gym regularly and I am a very muscular (not db bodybuilder) guy. I am 6'4" and weigh 250lbs.

I need a set of bag gloves that will protect my hands. I hit hard...very hard. It seems I found my unknown passion for boxing...now I am obsessed. Most of the reviews and info I see on getting a solid pair of bag gloves are not applicable to me. What might work for a lightweight may not work for a heavyweight. Also, before there is any heavyweight bashing...God just made me big, take it up with him.

Okay, I have read and read about different gloves. Here are the primary contenders (I think)

  • Winning (I can't afford them, but they seem like the top ones)
  • Grant Campeons (heard lots of good things, but they are very low cost, seems too good to be true)
  • Ringside IMF (big brand, but heard quality has changed over the years)
  • Rival gel shock (I have a pair of Rival 12oz RB40's right now...I have pummeled them in a month.)

Okay, now another issue, I have been told that because of my size/punch I need a 18oz-20oz to protect my hands. My middle knuckle on my right hand is so sore it keeps me from being able to box. But, when you look at most bag gloves (Grant, Winning, Rival gel, etc....most of them are 12oz-16oz. I just don't understand. I really need help from the experts here.

I am only looking for bag gloves. I will not be doing any sparring until I heal from a neck injury. I do not want "punchers" gloves like Cleto's or anything. I want to go all out and still provide ultimate knuckle protection. I also currently use Ringside gel hand covers with 180" mexican wraps.

Please help me...everyone says something different. If Winning gloves are indeed the best, I need the best possible knock-off. Also, please help me understand the confusion about 16oz, 18oz, etc...shouldn't bag gloves all be 18+oz's??

I really appreciate you all. I am looking forward to getting more involved in the sport!
 
The advice you need to hear, as a heavyweight, is going to be pretty much the same as that which should be given to any lightweight who wants the same thing -- protective bag gloves. Anyway,

What's your budget? Where do you live?

Winning provide the best knuckle protection. The second best out there in this regard is probably the Hayabusa Tokushu gloves.

Grant Campeons haven't been around for years. Whatever info you've been reading is old. Grants are super expensive nowadays and not especially protective.

Ringside IMF are pretty standard gloves. Decent protection, doesn't absorb shock that well but does protect in so far as your knuckles are never going to crash through the padding like they might in a thinly padded layered foam glove.

There's no such thing as "Rival gel shock". They have their RB10 d30 bag gloves, which can supposedly provide good knuckle protection but their wrist support is terrible. The RB40 is meant for beginners/boxercisers and is a layered foam glove, like most of what Rival has, not gel.

If you read the FAQ, you'll see

Q: What weight boxing gloves should I get for bag and padwork?

A: Whilst 12oz is the norm, some people like heavier gloves for strength and conditioning purposes and the added protection, and others feel that a slightly smaller weighted glove is better for honing technique. People who use traditional, thumbless bag mitts subscribe to the latter theory. Keep in mind that heavier boxing gloves tend to have bigger hand compartments.
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16oz should be fine for you. It's good enough for most professionals your size. Consider picking up the Winning NG2 knuckle guards from rakuten, they will do you better than the Ringside gel hand covers you have http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/boxing/item/436550/ .
 
Trololololol


P.s, just in case you aren't trolling. 14-16oz will do you fine killer. Your hands probably aren't conditioned after 4 months, so they wont be used to repetitive strain. Ice it, take a week off, and then stop being a puss. I have enlarged middle knuckles (and a sunken knuckle) from the damage they've accrued over the past 8 years, you get used to it.

Also, most heavy pro's use 16 for sparring, 14 for bag work.
 
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Minowafanatic: Thank you. Alot. I live in Louisville KY - USA. Yes, you are correct...I want protective (the MOST protection) bag gloves. There seems to be a big rivalry between heavyweights and lightweights on this forum though...the only reason I stated my weight is because I have heard from boxers that your weight should be a big determining factor in what ounce glove you use. I was told that most light/featherweights do not tie on 20oz gloves. Again, that is why I have asked...I am clueless on who to listen to. You see so many mixed reviews on every pair on the market.

So, I should stay away from Grants? And yes, I was referring to the Rival d30's. Again, so much hype from "boxers" and they are 12oz gloves that you confirm are for beginners and spin-class chicks. See what I mean? Very confusing.

I just want to be able to go all out, and not regret it painfully for the next two weeks. As for the question and answer you cited...that is confusing too. I currently use 12oz gloves. They do not protect my knuckles well. I think maybe a 16 or 18 would be better. However, a 12oz Winning glove is going to be far better than a 18oz Title glove...again, confusing to someone who does not want to buy 20 pairs before he gets it right! LOL I really appreciate your help.

BTW, lawmills2006, not sure what that reply is supposed to be but if you don't have the ability or knowledge to help, please move on.
 
lawmills2006 said:
Trololololol


P.s, just in case you aren't trolling. 14-16oz will do you fine killer. Your hands probably aren't conditioned after 4 months, so they wont be used to repetitive strain. Ice it, take a week off, and then stop being a puss. I have enlarged middle knuckles (and a sunken knuckle) from the damage they've accrued over the past 8 years, you get used to it.

Also, most heavy pro's use 16 for sparring, 14 for bag work.
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I am not a troll or a puss. Befor I decided to actually learn the sport, I was garage sparring with 7ox MMA gloves, full strength with same sized cops on local police force. Not a puss in my opinion...but someone who posts that from the safety of a PC might be. I just joined this forum, I am not trolling. I swear, I have been reading this forum for weeks and ANYTIME someone posts they are a heavyweight, a bunch of 120lb little-man-issue dudes attack them. Grow up!! I sincerely wanted some information...I like boxing. Seriously, what is your deal? You don't even know me. Glad I will get to deal with your kind on this forum. Thank you for the shred of useful information.
 
Dirk lemme help you out brotha!

1st of all based on your height and weight I don't think a 12oz is big enough for you, a 14-16oz should suffice for a bag glove though.

Regarding the 20oz that would probably be your ideal weight for a sparring glove, but you have no intention of doing that right now.

Since you are on a budget and need quality gloves you will need to go this route:

http://www.ringtocage.com/Deluxe-MiM-Foam-Sparring-Gloves-Limited-Edition-RC06VR.htm

Excellent gloves, they've been praised before. These are a work horse glove. The MiM is pretty dang good, and usable on a bag imo. Very protective as well!

If you are against IMF and are sure you want a 20oz glove:
http://www.ringside.com/ringside/ringside-heavy-hitter-pro-quad-layer-sparring-glove.html

I know it says sparring glove you can use them on a bag, but after you put in long rounds DONT use them in sparring.
 
Dbirk007 said:
Minowafanatic: Thank you. Alot. I live in Louisville KY - USA. Yes, you are correct...I want protective (the MOST protection) bag gloves. There seems to be a big rivalry between heavyweights and lightweights on this forum though...the only reason I stated my weight is because I have heard from boxers that your weight should be a big determining factor in what ounce glove you use. I was told that most light/featherweights do not tie on 20oz gloves. Again, that is why I have asked...I am clueless on who to listen to. You see so many mixed reviews on every pair on the market.

So, I should stay away from Grants? And yes, I was referring to the Rival d30's. Again, so much hype from "boxers" and they are 12oz gloves that you confirm are for beginners and spin-class chicks. See what I mean? Very confusing.

I just want to be able to go all out, and not regret it painfully for the next two weeks. As for the question and answer you cited...that is confusing too. I currently use 12oz gloves. They do not protect my knuckles well. I think maybe a 16 or 18 would be better. However, a 12oz Winning glove is going to be far better than a 18oz Title glove...again, confusing to someone who does not want to buy 20 pairs before he gets it right! LOL I really appreciate your help.

BTW, lawmills2006, not sure what that reply is supposed to be but if you don't have the ability or knowledge to help, please move on.
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Sorry, I didn't think you were actually serious.

Let me reiterate, you do not need a heavier glove than a 16. I used to train week in, week out with heavyweight boys who have placed in British and Commonwealth competition. The guys never ever used over 16. 18oz are used primarily for conditioning, although most credible coaches will never use them.

So, your problem is, in my opinion, down to a lack of knuckle conditioning. Take some time off, work technique, when your knuckle heals, get back to it. Either that, or you are not punching properly, focusing on the one knuckle as opposed to the whole area of your fist. In which case, ask your coach to help.

Finally, if you are still moaning non stop about how your so powerful your knuckle is hurting, buy some top heavy gloves. Some decent cleto reyes, or the boxing style of fairtex ( A quick search on google will turn out the model number). Again, you don't ever need over 16oz.
 
Dbirk007 said:
Minowafanatic: Thank you. Alot. I live in Louisville KY - USA. Yes, you are correct...I want protective (the MOST protection) bag gloves. There seems to be a big rivalry between heavyweights and lightweights on this forum though...the only reason I stated my weight is because I have heard from boxers that your weight should be a big determining factor in what ounce glove you use. I was told that most light/featherweights do not tie on 20oz gloves. Again, that is why I have asked...I am clueless on who to listen to. You see so many mixed reviews on every pair on the market.

So, I should stay away from Grants? And yes, I was referring to the Rival d30's. Again, so much hype from "boxers" and they are 12oz gloves that you confirm are for beginners and spin-class chicks. See what I mean? Very confusing.

I just want to be able to go all out, and not regret it painfully for the next two weeks. As for the question and answer you cited...that is confusing too. I currently use 12oz gloves. They do not protect my knuckles well. I think maybe a 16 or 18 would be better. However, a 12oz Winning glove is going to be far better than a 18oz Title glove...again, confusing to someone who does not want to buy 20 pairs before he gets it right! LOL I really appreciate your help.

BTW, lawmills2006, not sure what that reply is supposed to be but if you don't have the ability or knowledge to help, please move on.
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Personally I think you are too "Green" to get into Winning at this moment, please don't take offense to that, its not what I mean. I just know people that think they like boxing and quit 5-6 months down the road and they have 200-450 dollar gloves just sitting around.

Grant is garbage move along. IF you are willing to drop that much cash, spend $150 bucks get a custom Beaulieu instead.
 
lawmills2006 said:
Trololololol


P.s, just in case you aren't trolling. 14-16oz will do you fine killer. Your hands probably aren't conditioned after 4 months, so they wont be used to repetitive strain. Ice it, take a week off, and then stop being a puss. I have enlarged middle knuckles (and a sunken knuckle) from the damage they've accrued over the past 8 years, you get used to it.

Also, most heavy pro's use 16 for sparring, 14 for bag work.
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Thank you so much for the link to the review and the link to the winning knuckle guards! This is a great review and I had never heard of these gloves. I can attest that the ringside gel knuckle guards are JUNK...they say XL, but they cut off my circulation and the finger holes have already all ripped apart. Also, they don't actually cushion your knuckles that well. If anyone is considering them, don't waste your money...just my opinion.
 
Dbirk007 said:
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I am not a troll or a puss. Befor I decided to actually learn the sport, I was garage sparring with 7ox MMA gloves, full strength with same sized cops on local police force. Not a puss in my opinion...but someone who posts that from the safety of a PC might be. I just joined this forum, I am not trolling. I swear, I have been reading this forum for weeks and ANYTIME someone posts they are a heavyweight, a bunch of 120lb little-man-issue dudes attack them. Grow up!! I sincerely wanted some information...I like boxing. Seriously, what is your deal? You don't even know me. Glad I will get to deal with your kind on this forum. Thank you for the shred of useful information.
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Also Im 99% sure your knuckle issue stems from improper wrapping technique, at your size Id probably make the move to 220 wraps instead of 180.

edit: I also posted some links to great budget gloves on page 1, let me know if I can help my friend!
 
StRatoCastR said:
Also Im 99% sure your knuckle issue stems from improper wrapping technique, at your size Id probably make the move to 220 wraps instead of 180.

edit: I also posted some links to great budget gloves on page 1, let me know if I can help my friend!
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THANK YOU ALL so much! I really appreciate the information. I actually may be punching incorrectly. I noticed the pain when I really started trying to perfect my right to the body...I really draw my hook in...as if I am grabbing something out of someone's hand and bringing it to my chest...I know that description probably sounded GREEN!!! But you are right, it may be my form. At the same time, I really need a good solid pair that offers the ultimate protection. I would love to be able to buy a set of Winning gloves, and I probably will when I have "earned" them...that is, I have stuck with it and learned good form and paid my dues, like so many of you ahve.

I really appreciate you help guys, I will look into the gloves everyone has listed and go from there. I can spend about $100-140.00 right now. I have almost already spent that on 3 pairs of crap gloves LOL!

I think If I am hearing correctly also, I would really do well in a 16oz for heavy bag work, 1-2 hours a day three days a week? Thank you again, i can't tell you enough how great it is to be able to get information from guys doing this every day.
 
Yeah when you buy gloves also invest into 220 wraps I think you will find them a better fit for your huge paw lol.

PM me if you have any questions if I don't know the answer I will do my best to guide you in the right direction.

But yeah Im pretty sure you wont go wrong with either glove.

If you go too cheap of a glove 20-50 range they just don't last and you wind up spending MORE money to replace them down the road.

a good pair in the 70-100 range should last you a few YEARS.
 
StRatoCastR said:
Yeah when you buy gloves also invest into 220 wraps I think you will find them a better fit for your huge paw lol.

PM me if you have any questions if I don't know the answer I will do my best to guide you in the right direction.

But yeah Im pretty sure you wont go wrong with either glove.

If you go too cheap of a glove 20-50 range they just don't last and you wind up spending MORE money to replace them down the road.

a good pair in the 70-100 range should last you a few YEARS.
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I PM'd you...thanks a lot, great advice and great help!
 
No problem my friend, here to help!

Btw before we get too ahead of ourselves Im sure you have a large hand correct?
 
StRatoCastR said:
No problem my friend, here to help!

Btw before we get too ahead of ourselves Im sure you have a large hand correct?
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Yes, found out the hard way when I was unable to return 2 pairs of XL MMA gloves I bought lol. The Rival RB40 12oz gloves I use now are too snug, especially with wraps on. Feel like it is cutting off my circulation! Plus, I feel that because my hand is large, it is prematurely wearing out stitching...if that makes sense?
 
Dbirk007 said:
So, I should stay away from Grants? And yes, I was referring to the Rival d30's. Again, so much hype from "boxers" and they are 12oz gloves that you confirm are for beginners and spin-class chicks. See what I mean? Very confusing.
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Stay away from Grant - generic padding + they cost more than Winning.

Do NOT buy RB10. Their protection is... not great (speaking softly). A gimmicky thing these RB10.

Buy either Winning 16 oz. or Hayabusa Tokushu PLUS SIZE. The most protective gloves you can get.
 
shihtzu said:
Stay away from Grant - generic padding + they cost more than Winning.

Do NOT buy RB10. Their protection is... not great (speaking softly). A gimmicky thing these RB10.

Buy either Winning 16 oz. or Hayabusa Tokushu PLUS SIZE. The most protective gloves you can get.
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I think I am going to go with the RINGSIDE HEAVY HITTER PRO QUAD LAYER SPARRING GLOVE 20oz. On light days, and to keep certain I am still using good form, I will throw on my current Rival RB40's 12oz. I really appreciate everyone's help...as time goes on, I hope I can be of help to others as well. Thank you ALL!! If you should ahve any other additional comments, please post them! BTW-one more thing...are all wraps created pretty equal? I currently use Ringside, but they are not as elastic as I thought they should be...but hey, what do I know!!?? LOL!
 
actually ive been browsing do they not make 210s or 220s anymore? I dont see any on ringside or title.
 
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