Barao vs Asuncao

Asuncao is such an extreme neutralizer that its difficult to see how anyone would have done vs him. Barao has that Nova Uniao TDD so Asuncao wouldn't have been able to sneak those in, at least.
 
Soon cow upset unlikely imo. Barao wasn’t quite washed in the TJ fight, TJ was just on another level. Maybe another level of EPO, but still looking very good in that fight.
 
Pequeño Corey said:
Soon cow upset unlikely imo. Barao wasn’t quite washed in the TJ fight, TJ was just on another level. Maybe another level of EPO, but still looking very good in that fight.
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I ask myself, would Umar or Merab have beaten EPOshaw?
The answer is no.
Barao was still hella game in those bouts, fighting back even when TJ was doing matrix moves.
 
europe1 said:
I ask myself, would Umar or Merab have beaten EPOshaw?
The answer is no.
Barao was still hella game in those bouts, fighting back even when TJ was doing matrix moves.
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TJ is underrated bc people here hate him. The best version of him beats Merab imo based on their styles. I don’t see Merab having much success with the wrestling there, and TJ had way better striking.

The Cruz fight was close, but again, I just think it’s a bad style match for TJ.
 
Pequeño Corey said:
TJ is underrated bc people here hate him. The best version of him beats Merab easy imo based on their styles. I don’t see Merab having much success with the wrestling there, and TJ had way better striking.

The Cruz fight was close, but again, I just think it’s a bad style match for TJ.
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True.
TJ was not only an excellent sprawler, but he was also a flow fighter. Finding strikes in chaotic, high-pressure situations was not something he struggled with. That's where he trived. Bad for Merab. Not to mention the EPO-cardio.
But that same flow-mindset hurt him vs Cruz. It prevented him from comitting to a gameplan, a concentrated attack. He had great success kicking Cruz's legs but never made it his focus because he was more interested in finding strikes in the flow of the moment. Compare this with Cejudo, who walked into the Cruz fight 100% focused on killing Cruz's legs whenever he retreated.
Though I thought TJ should have recieved the decision.
 
Fact Checker said:
Crazy to think proven cheater TJ derailed the careers of Barao, Holdsworth, and Garbrandt all while having multiple source claims of being a juicebox lol.


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Barao fall was crazy... did it match the USADA timeline, like Hendricks? If it did I wouldnt even be that mad with the TJ shit.
What irks me is they giving TJ his last title shot against Sterling. Dude's a proven cheater, coming from a controversial decision and fighting hurt on top of that, he only bagged the paycheck
 
europe1 said:
I ask myself, would Umar or Merab have beaten EPOshaw?
The answer is no.
Barao was still hella game in those bouts, fighting back even when TJ was doing matrix moves.
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I marvel when I think of how injury prone Cruz coming off a multi year lay off came , beat a top contender and beat tippy top prime EPO TJ.
 
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TheMoa said:
Barao fall was crazy... did it match the USADA timeline, like Hendricks? If it did I wouldnt even be that mad with the TJ shit.
What irks me is they giving TJ his last title shot against Sterling. Dude's a proven cheater, coming from a controversial decision and fighting hurt on top of that, he only bagged the paycheck
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Barao’s ultimate downfall began with the beatings at TJ’s hands, then the crazy concussion he received when he was cutting weight for the TJ rematch

He was forced to fight a little too soon before the concussion fully healed IMHO
 
Fact Checker said:
Crazy to think proven cheater TJ derailed the careers of Barao, Holdsworth, and Garbrandt all while having multiple source claims of being a juicebox lol.


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And people here still glaze him calling him "a great" while shitting on "post USADA Barao". Funny how that works👻👻👻

P.S: Same clowns say Chael was 2 minutes away from being Champ; conveniently ignoring his pop for steroids that would have been a NC🥈
 
Pequeño Corey said:
TJ is underrated bc people here hate him. The best version of him beats Merab imo based on their styles. I don’t see Merab having much success with the wrestling there, and TJ had way better striking.

The Cruz fight was close, but again, I just think it’s a bad style match for TJ.
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Cruz would beat Merab too
 
My guess is yes

Assunção beat a pre ludwig version of dillashaw, who was basically a tam grappler.

The dillashaw/barao I was a key fight for barao, since dillashaw literally took barao soul in a way so hard that barao literally was never the same fighter after it.

Had he faced Assunção instead, he wouldn't be soulless barao, which could influence in the fight, granting barao a possible decision
 
TheMoa said:
Barao fall was crazy... did it match the USADA timeline, like Hendricks? If it did I wouldnt even be that mad with the TJ shit.
What irks me is they giving TJ his last title shot against Sterling. Dude's a proven cheater, coming from a controversial decision and fighting hurt on top of that, he only bagged the paycheck
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No.

No USADA when he first faced TJ.

And it was just starting a couple of weeks before the second fight, so not fully implemented. So guaranteed no pre fight tests before the rematch, possibly no post fight either but I've never seen confirmation on that.
 
europe1 said:
True.
TJ was not only an excellent sprawler, but he was also a flow fighter. Finding strikes in chaotic, high-pressure situations was not something he struggled with. That's where he trived. Bad for Merab. Not to mention the EPO-cardio.
But that same flow-mindset hurt him vs Cruz. It prevented him from comitting to a gameplan, a concentrated attack. He had great success kicking Cruz's legs but never made it his focus because he was more interested in finding strikes in the flow of the moment. Compare this with Cejudo, who walked into the Cruz fight 100% focused on killing Cruz's legs whenever he retreated.
Though I thought TJ should have recieved the decision.
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Lol yes exactly. I didn’t want to mention TJ’s cardio bc we all know he had some help, but for sure I don’t think his gas tank would be a problem in a hypothetical fight with the gremlin.

Great analysis here thanks.
 
europe1 said:
I ask myself, would Umar or Merab have beaten EPOshaw?
The answer is no.
Barao was still hella game in those bouts, fighting back even when TJ was doing matrix moves.
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Was eposhaw that much better than the guy who fought Sandhagen
 
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