News Artur Beterbiev vs Dmitry Bivol 2 and Daniel Dubois vs Joseph Parker official for February 22 in Riyadh

Who would win the rematch?

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Beterbiev is gonna dodge it. He knows Bivol has his number.
 
StopDucking said:
I picked Biev the first time and will pick him a second time. Beterbiev is p4p the hardest hitter in boxing history. One has to be head and shoulders above him technique-wise to overcome that.
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I also picked him to win and will be picking him again. Only this time he'll actually have more time to recover with his knee. He only had 5 months or less last time. That's a very quick turnaround. Too quick according to a lot of people I've talked to about a ruptured meniscus that required surgery. I think he'll go to the body much more this time. Bivol was feeling those shots.
 
Kovalev's Man Bag said:
He won't but he should. Bivol waited him out for years and still lost.
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You see a man in his mid 40s to even his 50s being buff while lifting heavy in the gym and realize that speed and agility decline first before strength/toughness.

Beterbiev relies more on the latter for his style of boxing.

Beterbiev might just walk through Bivol's punches now that he can tank them without even flinching when that guard is up.
 
Bivol found out even jumping on Beterbiev when you think you got him hurt is a dangerous mistake, but outside a few scary moments Bivol was able to mix some strand and trade in with his box and move. He didn’t melt in exchanges, never even knocked down, which is a hell of a lot more than 20 other strong willed opponents can say, and he may be able to adjust more than Beter can for round 2. I felt the win was decisive enough, but the rematch is warranted because the FIGHT WAS GOOD and they both showed folds the they previously hadn’t, fighting each others game and forcing the least expected result of all!

Could easily become a trilogy.
 
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You see a man in his mid 40s to even his 50s being buff while lifting heavy in the gym and realize that speed and agility decline first before strength/toughness.

Beterbiev relies more on the latter for his style of boxing.

Beterbiev might just walk through Bivol's punches now that he can tank them without even flinching when that guard is up.
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Not just a decline in speed but overall reflexes and reaction time. Your durability (punch resistance) will also decline with age. My point though was that they should've fought several years ago. The only reason they didn't is because Bivol dragged his feet. It wasn't until Beterbiev looked like he might be starting to slip (Yarde fight) that they signed to fight him. It's important to note that the fight was already a done deal before Beterbiev looked great in demolishing Callum Smith.
 
Kovalev's Man Bag said:
It depends on what type of power we're talking about. In terms of thudding power he's probably the best example of it regardless of weight class.
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He doesn’t have to load up the shot to hurt someone. Bivol spoke about how Canelo may have hit him harder with a single shot but that’s because Canelo hits with all his power , beterbiev doesn’t load up at all and every combo hurts
 
LEWIS540 said:
Now there's bold claim to state so matter of fact.
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Most power punchers like Jackson, Shavers or Wilder hurt people with power punches, meaning punches that are designed to hurt, look like they hurt and indeed hurt.

Beterbiev and Foreman don’t even throw power punches. All their punches hurt. Even arm punches, pitty-patter punches or blocked punches that look like they shouldn’t hurt still hurt.

What makes Beterbiev even more impressive is that he’s 2 weight classes lighter than Foreman. A LHW shouldn’t be able to punch that hard without even trying.
 
StopDucking said:
Most power punchers like Jackson, Shavers or Wilder hurt people with power punches, meaning punches that are designed to hurt, look like they hurt and indeed hurt.

Beterbiev and Foreman don’t even throw power punches. All their punches hurt. Even arm punches, pitty-patter punches or blocked punches that look like they shouldn’t hurt still hurt.

What makes Beterbiev even more impressive is that he’s 2 weight classes lighter than Foreman. A LHW shouldn’t be able to punch that hard without even trying.
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The first time I saw Beterbiev I said, “WOW, that’s definitely gonna be the man to beat of the division” total first impression, his power and no bullshit demeanor was that telling, pretty much knew we had a thoroughbred on our hands. Been a frustrating wait since then initially seeing him hit the scene, been curious about who’s who at LHW for a loooong time, but it is all that much sweeter that even at 39 Beterbiev was STILL able to prove the danger of his power! And it proved so critical in the outcome of the fight.
 
borntoloseNOT said:
The first time I saw Beterbiev I said, “WOW, that’s definitely gonna be the man to beat of the division” total first impression, his power and no bullshit demeanor was that telling, pretty much knew we had a thoroughbred on our hands. Been a frustrating wait since then initially seeing him hit the scene, been curious about who’s who at LHW for a loooong time, but it is all that much sweeter that even at 39 Beterbiev was STILL able to prove the danger of his power! And it proved so critical in the outcome of the fight.
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I was sold on Beterbiev after the Gvozdyk fight. Gvozdyk outboxed him for most of the fight but still got broken down because fighting Biev is like fighting a guy with loaded gloves. The human body can’t handle such punishment.
 
iwannabeadored said:
He doesn’t have to load up the shot to hurt someone. Bivol spoke about how Canelo may have hit him harder with a single shot but that’s because Canelo hits with all his power , beterbiev doesn’t load up at all and every combo hurts
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I noticed that with him clear back in the amateurs. The shot he dropped Usyk with to the body didn't even look like much. Canelo doesn't just swing for the fences he also steps in with his shots a lot of the time. That will add momentum to his shots. He was throwing bombs against Bivol but telegraphing them. You're not going to hit a fighter so defensively blessed with a bomb like that unless they switch off for a split second like he did against Joe Smith. Bivol rarely makes such a mistake.
 
StopDucking said:
Most power punchers like Jackson, Shavers or Wilder hurt people with power punches, meaning punches that are designed to hurt, look like they hurt and indeed hurt.

Beterbiev and Foreman don’t even throw power punches. All their punches hurt. Even arm punches, pitty-patter punches or blocked punches that look like they shouldn’t hurt still hurt.

What makes Beterbiev even more impressive is that he’s 2 weight classes lighter than Foreman. A LHW shouldn’t be able to punch that hard without even trying.
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Dan Azeez sparred Beterbiev and said that he was the heaviest hitter he's ever sparred even over Daniel Dubois. Big size difference there and Dubois is obviously one of the best punchers at heavyweight. There's a 40+ lbs weight difference between Beterbiev and Dubois.
 
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One of the reasons why Bivol lost the fight apart from giving up the last few rounds. He can't afford to do this again in the rematch.
 
Bivol fan here, but Bivol cannot hurt Biev and Biev can certainly hurt Bivol.

Have to give the advantage to Biev who needs to up the tempo earlier. If he does that it's going to be difficult for Bivol.
 
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