Crime Armed school employee stops alleged attempted kidnapping in Ogden

[Peter_Panner]

A 41-year-old man is in custody after allegedly trying to kidnap an 11-year-old girl in Ogden.

Ogden police were called to a local elementary school Tuesday after a teacher was able to stop the attempted kidnapping.

“An employee was watching the kids from the inside and observed the suspect walk up to this 11-year-old girl [on the playground] and put his hands on her in an attempt to take her,” says Lt. Brian Eynon of the Ogden City Police Department. “He ran outside, the employee did, and confronted the suspect. At that same time, the girl had the ability to pull away from the suspect.”

The teacher was able to get all 20 students off the playground and into the school.

Police the 41-year-old suspect, Ira Cox-Berry, then approached the building and began punching the window in an attempt to force his way inside.

That’s when the employee, a concealed carry permit holder, produced a firearm and held Cox-Berry off while calling 911.

“This employee is protected under the Second Amendment. He followed all policy and procedure at the school, and in this particular case, did everything that he should have done to protect the innocent lives of the children at the school,” says the Lieutenant. “And in this case, it is likely that a life was saved or injury to a life was prevented due to the actions of this heroic employee.”

Officers quickly arrived and took Cox-Berry into custody after a brief struggle.

Lt. Eynon adds, “the suspect was high, high on some type of narcotic.”

Investigators says there is no link between Cox-Berry and the young girl.

“This teacher, in particular, was very prepared emotionally to confront a suspect he didn’t know, that was most likely on drugs, could be dangerous, could have been armed, and he took it upon himself to protect and be a hero, frankly, for the children who are on scene there when this went down,” says Lt. Eynon



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I think the teacher shouldnt have a gun on property and should have let the man take the girl and kill her after raping her and then twitter could have paid his bail and we could have all formed a circle and sang Kumbaya. The teacher took that from us. Shame.

 

[Proud American]

We as Free Americans have got to be more proactive in taking care of one another in many different ways. Like this man did.

We should rely on each other as community more for a collective cause. Independent people, freely banding together

 

[tenniswhiz]

What a great story.

I could have done exactly what the teacher did, but without a gun.

The gun was not drawn when the man was trying to take the little girl (who was able to “free herself”) but it was drawn when the man began punching the window?

That being said, props to the teacher.

I don’t have a problem with the 2nd.
Just a problem with stories that smell of bullshit.

 

[Neph]

I think the teacher shouldnt have a gun on property and should have let the man take the girl and kill her after raping her and then twitter could have paid his bail and we could have all formed a circle and sang Kumbaya. The teacher took that from us. Shame.

A great outcome, but also, not a common outcome. In 2017 in the USA there were 3410 fire-arm related deaths for persons under the age of 18, and for every child or teen fatally shot there were another five who suffered non-fatal funshot wounds.

If we made a thread every time a child or teen died of gunshot wounds in the US there would be about 65 threads a week on it.

 

[Peter_Panner]

A great outcome, but also, not a common outcome. In 2017 in the USA there were 3410 fire-arm related deaths for persons under the age of 18, and for every child or teen fatally shot there were another five who suffered non-fatal funshot wounds.

If we made a thread every time a child or teen died of gunshot wounds in the US there would be about 65 threads a week on it.

I dont think you fully understand

 

[tonni]

We as Free Americans have got to be more proactive in taking care of one another in many different ways. Like this man did.

We should rely on each other as community more for a collective cause. Independent people, freely banding together

You're Canadian at best.

 

[Neph]

I dont think you fully understand

This being a discussion thread, perhaps you would like to enlighten me.

 

[tonni]

In 2017 in the USA there were 3410 fire-arm related deaths for persons under the age of 18, and for every child or teen fatally shot there were another five who suffered non-fatal funshot wounds.

That's fucked up.

 

[bobgeese]

A great outcome, but also, not a common outcome. In 2017 in the USA there were 3410 fire-arm related deaths for persons under the age of 18, and for every child or teen fatally shot there were another five who suffered non-fatal funshot wounds.

If we made a thread every time a child or teen died of gunshot wounds in the US there would be about 65 threads a week on it.

That has absolutely nothing to do with guns, and everything to do with our decline as people. America needs a cultural reset badly.

 

[Neph]

That has absolutely nothing to do with guns, and everything to do with our decline as people. America needs a cultural reset badly.

At what point would you suggest the US needs to go to?

 

[bobgeese]

At what point would you suggest the US needs to go to?

Do you really think murders and suicides would stop if there were no guns?

 

[Neph]

Do you really think murders and suicides would stop if there were no guns?

That has absolutely nothing to do with guns, and everything to do with our decline as people. America needs a cultural reset badly.

You drew a line between these events and a decline in the culture of Americans. I'm wondering where you feel the right point to go back is, bearing in mind that for the most part violence has only gone down over time, at least since the 60s.

Important caveat: Last year sucked

 

[Neph]

Do you really think murders and suicides would stop if there were no guns?

The very short answer is: They will reduce. But I don't think it's either practical or the right thing to do in the US, at least not now.

The fundamentals of why I don't think it's the right thing to do is that it first needs popular, overwhelming support. If you try to 'take guns off people' when there isn't that overwhelming support, it's doomed to fail and the social unrest will be far reaching and dangerous. It's much more likely that generational change will create the impetus to change the rules, and that change will probably be slow with various grandfather clauses to allow for a more harmonious, slow transit.

The reason I say They will reduce is that the evidence is utterly overwhelming that more guns have clear, proven links to murders and suicides. I've been down this road before and provided countless papers in the past but to be honest even the most basic Google search will provide it for you. The studies are rigorous, the statistical methods are strong and well established, and they are peer reviewed by economists and mathematicians.

But, to cycle back to my first point: I don't think America is ready for it. I don't think America wants it. You can't force people to do these things without massive blowback, so you shouldn't. I expect future generations will be far less happy with the prevalence of guns and will seek that change, and it can be up to them.

Edit: I made a slight edit. The murders and suicides won't stop, and I don't think @bobgeese was really intending to talk in such black and white terms.

 

[scoopj]

We as Free Americans have got to be more proactive in taking care of one another in many different ways. Like this man did.

We should rely on each other as community more for a collective cause. Independent people, freely banding together

Nope. We are rugged individualists. Every man for himself.

 

[shankmcgank]

You drew a line between these events and a decline in the culture of Americans. I'm wondering where you feel the right point to go back is, bearing in mind that for the most part violence has only gone down over time, at least since the 60s.

Important caveat: Last year sucked

Since we both love graphs, I'm just gonna leave this here...perhaps you see a correlation?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Thankfully that predator is absolutely awful at coming up with good kidnapping plans.

 

[tenniswhiz]

Since we both love graphs, I'm just gonna leave this here...perhaps you see a correlation?

So...what are you trying to say?

 

[Neph]

Since we both love graphs, I'm just gonna leave this here...perhaps you see a correlation?

Yes, the black homicide rate is appalling.

I should point out that the white homicide rate isn't good either. According to your top graph most 1st world countries are between 0.0 and 0.5.

If we take the upper range at 0.5, white US male are around 2.5, which is 5x more likely to commit homicide than most other 1st world countries, regardless of the ethnic composition. You can't solely blame the black population when the white is 5x worse as well.

 

[shankmcgank]

So...what are you trying to say?

Isn't it obvious?

The black community has a gun violence problem. This is only a secret to those who choose to live in ignorance.

6% of the population (black males) are responsible for 50% of the murders in America every year.

Tell me another race in America where the #1 cause of death for a male under the age of 45 is homicide?

https://www.gainesville.com/story/s...ack-males-age-44-and-younger-in-us/112900786/

For those who want to use the go-to "racist" ad hominem, go ahead, I'm not the one who can't handle the truth.

 

[Hadron90]

What a great story.

I could have done exactly what the teacher did, but without a gun.

We know. You are a regular badass. You probably even have a stripe or two on BJJ white belt.

I don’t have a problem with the 2nd.
Just a problem with stories that smell of bullshit.

What do you believe is untrue about this story?