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In Denmark we have a saying that translates to "Thieves think everyone steals". So when people defend doping, it says a lot about them and their mentality.
Another Team Khabib fighter pops for doping - Movlid Khaybulaev
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How do you know what I know ? If anyone is doping ? Are there maybe videos of pro fighters talking about how they were doping ? Are there steroid test failures ? Are there people visibly on steroids ? Is there info shared by fighters about athletes who dope ? Let alone real world knowledge.
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Maybe you are not understanding, let me try again...
Unless you are PERSONALLY involved with a fighter, or the testing process, you have ZERO KNOWLEDGE whatsoever that they are on steroids. You may THINK they are, but that is an OPINION until proven FACT by admission or failed test
and after reading your quoted response I feel like I have to point out I am OBVIOUSLY not talking about people that have failed tests or admitting to using already
The difference with Russia is that cheating (doping) was/is literally a PROVEN, inarguably core part of their athletic strategy, and basically required of it's program
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Hmm. What ABOUT separate PED-allowed and No-PED leagues, like they have in competitive weight-lifting?
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what is the point of peds ? To win a rat race. Be a rat. Cheat. Why not battle peds and keep normal sports and follow the rules we agreed to ? Why peds ? To cheat
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I see now Mahachev cheated with the IV and didn't get the 2 year suspension as by the rules. Coruption. He had a iv bump mark on his vein. And has 1 failed test I think. Wasn't there also some story about someone hiding in a mosque somewhere ? So we got hidding under a cage, in a mosque and someone calling the brasilian cops to arrest testers.
I'm just realising they gon hate me all if they ever read this
And why did Brock get an excemption.
Whatever
I'm just realising they gon hate me all if they ever read this
And why did Brock get an excemption.
Whatever
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I think we sorta agree, but the way you argue is.....confusing.I see now Mahachev cheated with the IV and didn't get the 2 year suspension as by the rules. Coruption. He had a iv bump mark on his vein. And has 1 failed test I think. Wasn't there also some story about someone hiding in a mosque somewhere ? So we got hidding under a cage, in a mosque and someone calling the brasilian cops to arrest testers.
I'm just realising they gon hate me all if they ever read this
And why did Brock get an excemption.
Whatever
Yes, it would be best if we could stop all doping.
Yes, there are people from all countries that dope.
Yes, there are corruption in the system and some fighters are not punished as they should be.
The one point where you are wrong is about Russia (and china). You have to understand that there is a difference between individual fighters doping, and STATE SPONSORED doping programs. Programs that started doping athletes from they were children. And those programs, just to make it 100% clear, were implemented by the russian government. This has been proven.
You are comparing apples to oranges. And the way you argue makes it sound like you are defending Russia, or trying to make it seem like they werent that bad.
They were.
And it has gotten better, but doping is still going on in Russia on a scale not seen anywhere else but China. Russias sports minister has admitted it, and said he would try to fight against children getting doped.
Edit: and yes, Islam is a cheater I would agree. And he is "Russian" as Dagestan is a republic of Russia. The state sponsored doping went on there too.
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How do athletes have careers in their mid 30ies if they been doped as kids ? Did their natural testosterone production not shut down ?
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I am not a doping expert so I can not answer that.
There is this article about child doping (and when you look at the numbers, remember that children are not usually tested for doping) -
"A 10-year global study of positive doping tests by children and young teenagers showed most sanctions came from Russia, India, and China"
"The youngest athlete tested was 8 years old and the youngest sanctioned in a doping case was a 12-year-old, WADA said in the "Operation Refuge" study."
"1,500 positive tests involving more than 1,400 minors since 2012"
Study: Minors doping cases point to 3 nations
A 10-year global study of positive doping tests by children and young teenagers showed most sanctions came from Russia, India and China and in sports such as weightlifting, athletics, and cycling, the World Anti-Doping Agency said Wednesday.
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Russian fighters get slandered all the time for there drug use, boring fights , handpicked opponents and all these true things.
. I don't wanna accuse nobody of anything
