Television ANDOR Season 2 (Concludes at No. 1 on Nielsen's Streaming Charts; Best Star Wars Since Original Trilogy)

[Madmick]

Even at the forest base, Bail Organa has to wear the fancy cape. I guess he was ranking senator so he gets to act like he's the boss of the rebels. Mothma's fanciness level went all the way to zero to match her bleh hairdo in Rogue One.

I think he may have been the rebel leader at that point. He dies when the Deathstar destroys Alderaan (with Vader forcing Leia to watch).

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

What annoyed me all throughout this series is the minimal dialogue, minimal exposition, you get a cookie for figuring things out approach to storytelling. Underwhelming ending, I get that it can't be a big shoot out with a lot of explosions but how about not close it without the "I bet that's what the writer was thinking" bullshit?

Was Bix holding Cassian's baby? So she left just before she started to show because she knows she was pregnant? Leave it to fucking Tony Gilroy to make that a mystery. Oooooohhhh. Ahhhhhhh. I hope they don't make another series where Cassian's Maury Povich baby grew up to find his long lost Aunt because that would suck.

Diego Luna is unintentionally hilarious when he acts wide-eyed and serious and they give him a closeup, especially towards the end. And why is it that every non-POV character in this show has such a punchable face? Or maybe it's just the writing that makes me wanna punch them?

Why didn't we learn anything new about the Death Star plans? Isn't that the point of the show? We did learn that Stormtroopers are just as incompetent without their helmets as they are with them on. Great job there.

What's the point of showing Mon Mothma's husband with an escort while he was drinking with that stupid ponytail, wtf?

 

[Myrddin Wild]

What annoyed me all throughout this series is the minimal dialogue, minimal exposition, you get a cookie for figuring things out approach. Underwhelming ending, I get that it can't be a big shoot out with a lot of explosions but how about not close it without the "I bet that's what the writer was thinking" bullshit?

Was Bix holding Cassian's baby? So she left just before she started to show because she knows she was pregnant? Leave it to fucking Tony Gilroy to make that a mystery. Oooooohhhh. Ahhhhhhh. I hope they don't make another series where Cassian's Maury Povich baby grew up to find his long lost Aunt because that would suck.

Diego Luna is unintentionally hilarious when he acts serious and they give him a closeup, especially towards the end. And why is it that every non-POV character in this show has such a punchable face? Or maybe it's just the writing that makes me wanna punch them?

Why didn't we learn anything new about the Death Star plans? Isn't that the point of the show?

Your pov on characters is your opinion, but regarding some key point gripes:

Death Star planz were revealed in Rogue One. We were expecting teh collected crumbs that led to those discoveries & that's what we got. (perhaps review that movie before continuing this line of questioning) To your point, I would've appreciated a play-out of how Galen got teh message to the pilot from Rogue One... that told them how to get access to teh planz, but that wasn't necessary.

It was actually a big shootout ending... it just happened in teh 3rd block & then they used teh 4th block to close out & tie in wit Rogue One. I expected fireworks in teh finale, but this is a unique story where it ties into teh explosion of what follows in Rogue One. Brilliant imo.

It's obvious that waz "baby Cassa." It doesn't need to be spelled out. Your pov suggests the couple that had been together for years had a side piece for Bix... lol... Her being pregnant at the time she told Cassa that she had to leave makes that scene so much more than we realized at the time. She knew his roll was critical & he was talking about leaving the rebelz. She took one for the team. You seem to be trying a bit to hard here to undermine a beautiful ending.

I personally would love to see Cassa'z baby grow oop knowing his pops waz key to overthrowing an entire empire, & take teh mantle in his own contributionz.

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

Some people online theorize that Cassian's supposed baby ( Bix is a tease ), grows up to be Poe Dameron. This gives "somehow Palpatine has returned" a new ring to it.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Some people online theorize that Cassian's supposed baby ( Bix is a tease ), grows up to be Poe Dameron. This gives "somehow Palpatine has returned" a new ring to it.

Cassa waz dead for years before Poe'z birth. Perhaps a donation to a sperm bank for some xtra cash?


Oh yeah, he waz cloned from Cassa...

I get teh slapstick comedy here, since Poe said that in teh sequelz... & since the timeline doesn't work out for his child'z birth... now this outragious theory would be funny if true... so thanx for sharing it.

That said, while acknowledging teh humor:
"Somehow Palpatine returned" is a fun thing to say, but it's just a shoutout to the evolution of the rebel'z understanding at the time. This is so simple to understand. The rebelz found out he returned... didn't know how, & that's teh way they described what they knew.

While I consider Screencrush's breakdownz at the top of teh U-tube offeringz, their on-going joke about this is getting old. It was never that funny to begin with because the story told was legit, & it was already written in non-canon for decades prior before it was made canon in teh sequelz & then completely understood during the canon Mandalorian series. They just didn't spell it out in canon at the time he said that. It was as much a mystery to us as it was to them at the time..

So semi-legitimate gripe... but not that funny now 300 yearz later. We've moved on & everyone who's familiar with canon, now understandz how Sid returned.

 

[Daverisimo]

Some people online theorize that Cassian's supposed baby ( Bix is a tease ), grows up to be Poe Dameron. This gives "somehow Palpatine has returned" a new ring to it.

Some Star Wars fans have brainworms. These are the same people who thought Kleya was actually Leia in disguise. Fortunately, Tony Gilroy shut the "Kleya=Leia" theory down. Unfortunately, it's out of his hands now, so any hack writer Lucasfilms hires is free to retcon Cassian and Bix' kid actually being Poe into existence. If that happens, I will mail said writer my own shit.

Andor/R1 is a masterpiece, and if the other writers at Lucasfilms have any amount of functional braincells numbering at least in the double digits, they'll leave it the fuck alone. No tie ins, no cameos (aside from legacy characters), none of that bullshit please.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Some Star Wars fans have brainworms.

100%... likely from petting LothCats after they used teh litterbox.

any hack writer Lucasfilms hires is free to retcon Cassian and Bix' kid actually being Poe into existence. If that happens, I will mail said writer my own shit.

Me too. This would by far be one of teh worse thingz they could ever do, & I personally would be swayed as a fan if that or the kid not being Cassian'z ever happened. That's how strongly I believe they'd never break this belief that they have developed.

We've seen other thingz fanz didn't like, but this is straight oop what they led us to believe.

 

[JadeOwl]

But even on Ghorman, being sent to assassinate the key Imperial in charge of the show seemed like a stretch. This is the event that formally precipitated the Rebellion. On balance, he botches that and is only there to sell Karn's attempts to hit his rape choke finishing move on progressively tougher opponents.

This was done by Luthan, outside of teh Yavin Alliance, & so the pickings were pretty slim. Luthan has full trust in him, unlike some other shady characterz he knows who might be a better assassin than Andy.

I don’t think the assassination was Luther’s doing at all.

That was a private, off the books revenge plot by the Ferrix boys against the woman who engineered the massacre on their homeworld.

Luthen may have sent Wilmon to Ghorman, but I’m 100% convinced that whole plan was Wilmon’s doing.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

I don’t think the assassination was Luther’s doing at all.

That was a private, off the books revenge plot by the Ferrix boys against the woman who engineered the massacre on their homeworld.

Luthen may have sent Wilmon to Ghorman, but I’m 100% convinced that whole plan was Wilmon’s doing.

Could you please elaborate further with some background.

The context behind these quotes from me & chickin don't seem to give the background from the discussion they were quoted from.

Assuming it's the assasination of Daedra, then Luthan 100% sent Andy, but what is your point about Wilmon maybe initiating that plan? or is your point something else? I'm not sure.

 

[GSP_37]

The off screen drug dealer could be the baby daddy... or maybe Palpatine's magical sperm had long range.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

The off screen drug dealer could be the baby daddy... or maybe Palpatine's magical sperm had long range.

If it's not Cassa, it's someone from Yavin... though your etheric impregnation is certainly not out of teh question in a world where Sid & Plagues made a baby Ani from an isolated cave in Madeira, Portugal ....I suppose anything'z possible.

 

[Streeter]

Some Star Wars fans have brainworms. These are the same people who thought Kleya was actually Leia in disguise. Fortunately, Tony Gilroy shut the "Kleya=Leia" theory down. Unfortunately, it's out of his hands now, so any hack writer Lucasfilms hires is free to retcon Cassian and Bix' kid actually being Poe into existence. If that happens, I will mail said writer my own shit.

Andor/R1 is a masterpiece, and if the other writers at Lucasfilms have any amount of functional braincells numbering at least in the double digits, they'll leave it the fuck alone. No tie ins, no cameos (aside from legacy characters), none of that bullshit please.

Other than the OT. YES! Rouge 1 and Andor are easily the 2 best thi hs Lucasfilm has done for Star Wars. ROTS and Mandalorian were a notch below but still pretty decent . Everything g else been different levels of trash

 

[JadeOwl]

Could you please elaborate further with some background.

The context behind these quotes from me & chickin don't seem to give the background from the discussion they were quoted from.

Assuming it's the assasination of Daedra, then Luthan 100% sent Andy, but what is your point about Wilmon maybe initiating that plan? or is your point something else? I'm not sure.

Andor never talks to Luthen directly before the mission to Ghorman. It all comes from Wilmon.

Wilmon who has personal reasons to want Dedra dead.
Wilmon who has been spending so much time on Ghorman he already has a Ghor girlfriend, from the Ghorman Front
Wilmon who before that was last seen huffing rhydo fumes and getting lessons in revolution with Saw "Let's Burn Everything Down" Guerrera.

There's also the factor that Ghorman was already the kind of mess Luthen wanted. The kind of escalation that murdering the planet's ranking ISB officer would bring, before finding out why she's been put in charge there, seemed out of character for Luthen.

 

[The Clinch]

Just finished season 2, not bad.

Those first couple episodes with Andor stuck on that planet with the goober brigade were a waste of time.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Those first couple episodes with Andor stuck on that planet with the goober brigade were a waste of time.

Yeah, I wish they would've shortened that arc, but it was designed to show how uninhabitable Yavin was back then. Here we got teh first Rebelz on Yavin.

So it was interesting, but I too felt it was too long & drawn out.

 

[The Clinch]

Yeah, I wish they would've shortened that arc, but it was designed to show how uninhabitable Yavin was back then. Here we got teh first Rebelz on Yavin.

So it was interesting, but I too felt it was too long & drawn out.

Think it was also just something to have Andor on the show and sorta preoccupied while everything else with Dedra, Mon, Luthen, etc. was being set up.

 

[I Am Legion]

The show really heated up the last 6 episodes. What a job they did with World Buildng, absolutely gorgeous sets and shots. Teh characters are well developed and colorful. The suspense has been great as well. What a triumph imo. The Ghorman trap was such a great episode.

 

[Streeter]

I ly issue is why wasnt Mads in this. He should of been featured last eps to explain his part as he had the biggest part of fighting the death star

 

[GSP_37]

What more from Galen Erso did you want that wasn't covered in Rogue One? They said they already shrunk Andor due to budget as is. They were originally thinking 5 seasons but it's expensive to make these shows and they're not getting movie money for each episode.

One of the creators said he would have liked to have Syril's mom visit Luthen at his shop. One man's shits and giggles is another man's don't put that shit in the show.

 

[Kimchii]

The blood in blood out guy, was he a Jedi? He told Andor that force thing.

Who was the snobs around the round table? I remember 2 people bitching.