And people say UFC has watered down cards...

[EndlessCritic]

Bellator's card this friday has a main event of paul bradley vs josh neer, and a co main of houston alexander vs virgil zwicker. what a joke.

 

[jamesgalb]

The difference is.... Bellator isnt charging PPV or FightPass to watch, and they have real intentions to scale back the over-saturation within the next few months...

Also, Season 10 was absent Tournaments, Rampage, Minakov, Lima, and Bellator just released 2 of its names in Alvarez and Riggs... All things considered, Coker didnt do horrible having to fill 9 consecutive weeks.

And the 2 weeks after that are pretty damn good

 

[JonSnitchPhones]

They do have watered down cards. So does Bellator, with less talent on average, and worse matchmaking.

They can both have watered down cards. It's not helping anyone to justify that practice in either organization. Both organizations would be more fan friendly if they looked for a happy medium between regular MMA and quality. They haven't found it yet.

 

[Mavadorov]

It's cause they do

 

[EndlessCritic]

It's cause they do

really, what card was watered down this year. let's go.

 

[Bigj383]

Bellator has lower expectations as a minor league org. Though UFC has had more bad luck this year than Bellator with all the injuries to its champions. To the average UFC fan almost every Bellator card is watered down since that term is about name recognition.

 

[JonSnitchPhones]

really, what card was watered down this year. let's go.

Most of them. UFC 175 had two title fights, but then only two others on the main card, one being Hall-Santos, and the other Doane-Brimage. Those are supposed to contribute to people paying for a card? Maybe it would for you because you bet on so many fights, but the average person who doesn't, why should they pay for those? Or alone for Machida-Weidman and a mismatch between two chicks? Clearly you realize the UFC could create better cards if not for Fight Pass and branching out to like TUF Antarctica now (I'd be great with the UFC format and fights right now I figure if it weren't for FP and archaic TUF). Bisping-Le and Woodley-DHK surrounded by a bunch of no name Asian dudes is incredibly watered down, and acts to water down other cards like the ones I mentioned. Fights like those (or Marquardt-Te Huna, Oliveira-Hioki on the previous FP) could have fortified UFC 175 to be an event rather than a fight you're waiting all night for. This isn't boxing.

 

[tendersurrender]

Bellator has lower expectations as a minor league org. Though UFC has had more bad luck this year than Bellator with all the injuries to its champions. To the average UFC fan almost every Bellator card is watered down since that term is about name recognition.

As a fan of both UFC & Bellator and a fan of MMA in general , the main event and co main event is pretty terrible even for bellator.

 

[Deleted member 158611]

It's free if you're already paying for cable TV.

The UFC is the premier MMA organization in the world that charges $60 for PPVs so they have an obligation to make those cards stacked.

 

[Zanmato]

bellator offering a shitty card doesn't have any meaning on the ufc offering good or bad cards, apples and oranges

saffedine v lim, marqardt v te huna, kim v hathaway, bisping v le, dillashaw v soto, nelson v story

etc.. were all on paper quite underwhelming cards. they may have had one or two stars, some prospects or good fights but overall they weren't great cards. that's just the nature of the beast now though, nobody can be expected to keep up with every card and every fighter now, no matter how much they want to

 

[melvinj0]

So much bitching about this upcoming Bellator card. Who cares, I'm still gonna watch it because I enjoy MMA. Neer is usually always good for a scrap, and Zwicker/Houston could be a fun brawl.

Ya it's really not a good card on paper, could still be some fun fights.

 

[melvinj0]

Besides, 130 and 131 have a lot of their bigger named guys on them so 129 kinda suffers from that.

 

[MaTaLa]

Don't watch it. People comparing Bellator w/ UFC and "haha, they suck" have too much time on their hands.

I watch all the Bellator matches and all the UFC that I can. Like them both and both suck sometimes. Get over it and enjoy the fights.

 

[Bigj383]

As a fan of both UFC & Bellator and a fan of MMA in general , the main event and co main event is pretty terrible even for bellator.

Yeah I would have to agree Bradley vs Neer and Houston Alexander are bad fights. If it was Journeyman vs Prospect or contender it would be easier to excuse but Journeyman vs journeyman main event makes little sense.

 

[tendersurrender]

Yeah I would have to agree Bradley vs Neer and Houston Alexander are bad fights. If it was Journeyman vs Prospect or contender it would be easier to excuse but Journeyman vs journeyman main event makes little sense.

Im sure it will be a good fight though but I think they can do better. WSOF took away a lot of fighters that would of been great additions and it definitely effected bellator . They could of used those guys on cards like this .

 

[melvinj0]

Im sure it will be a good fight though but I think they can do better. WSOF took away a lot of fighters that would of been great additions and it definitely effected bellator . They could of used those guys on cards like this .

For sure, Hamman would have been a nice entertaining cheap addition to Bellator's LHW or MW division had WSOF not picked him up.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

To the average UFC fan almost every Bellator card is watered down since that term is about name recognition.

I am really coming around to this point of view. I think it is hard to show there has been a decline in quality of fights or cards. It seems the real complaint is that the roster is too big to be able to follow every fighter closely.

 

[tendersurrender]

For sure, Hamman would have been a nice entertaining cheap addition to Bellator's LHW or MW division had WSOF not picked him up.

Got to give WSOF alot of credit they went out and got some very good free agents and i'm sure paid a lot too get some of those guys.Ray Sefo is a big part in there success. I'd like too see more organizations with ex-fighters at the helm. They understand the sport more than someone like DW or scott coker .

 

[JonSnitchPhones]

Got to give WSOF alot of credit they went out and got some very good free agents and i'm sure paid a lot too get some of those guys.Ray Sefo is a big part in there success. I'd like too see more organizations with ex-fighters at the helm. They understand the sport more than someone like DW or scott coker .

I wouldn't call an organization a success because some fighters, many of whom who no other major organization wanted, signed with them for exorbitant amounts. I'd call that more of a failure.

Unless they're just existing for a while to fuck with Bellator (like it was alluded to they are doing on purpose or accident), which I and many others have long suspected. I'll bet they go out of business by early 2015 now that Zuffa has a less contentious relationship w/ Bellator and they've proven not to be a real threat on Spike.

 

[ebartlett84]

I've attended a Bellator "worse" than this. 43.

Relying mainly on local talent for preliminaries in a strong fight mma area like this event is fine.

That's a decent enough card- 11 or so solid fights. Not a bum on the card, not one.


Trey Brown impressed me last fight. Solid addition to the prelims.
Lawson vs. Cotton is an interesting fight.