68 year old randomly beaten to death / eye for an eye?

[WorldofWarcraft]

They say it was a robbery, but I don't think so. The surveillance video (not in the link) showed it to be some sort of random attack against the 68 year old Ruan Wen Hui. They already caught a suspect, although he claims it wasn't him, but he matched the description in the video. Same apperance, same t-shirt and the video showed him walking in the direction towards where he lives.

The family wants to add a racial motivation amongst the charges, as it will give the suspect life in prison without the possibility of parole.

While we're discussing crime and punishment, what do you think about an "eye for an eye" justice? I remember an article that was posted on here years ago about a guy in Iran who threw acid on his girlfriend's face, then the punishment given to him was the same. They were going to pour acid on his face just like he did to his ex girlfriend.

Do you think it is too barbaric? It's about the most equal sense of justice I can think of.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nypd-se...y-beating-of-68-year-old-man-in-east-village/

 

[Orgasmo]

The suspect looks athletic and explosive.

 

[knuckleroll**]

I'm all for an eye for an eye punishment. Especially that acid one. I've always felt that way though. You rape some chick, you deserve to have some big ass inmate rape you.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

The suspect, assuming he is found guilty should be sentenced to death.

 

[surgeyou1]

Nope we aren't living in the Stone Age

 

[5H3RD0G]

They say it was a robbery, but I don't think so. The surveillance video (not in the link) showed it to be some sort of random attack against the 68 year old Ruan Wen Hui. They already caught a suspect, although he claims it wasn't him, but he matched the description in the video. Same apperance, same t-shirt and the video showed him walking in the direction towards where he lives.

The family wants to add a racial motivation amongst the charges, as it will give the suspect life in prison without the possibility of parole.

While we're discussing crime and punishment, what do you think about an "eye for an eye" justice? I remember an article that was posted on here years ago about a guy in Iran who threw acid on his girlfriend's face, then the punishment given to him was the same. They were going to pour acid on his face just like he did to his ex girlfriend.

Do you think it is too barbaric? It's about the most equal sense of justice I can think of.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nypd-se...y-beating-of-68-year-old-man-in-east-village/

You don't want to become the guilty party. You do want them to understand what they did wrong. People like that should not be in society period, they are a whole class unto themselves. Lifetime deportation to a select island where all criminal act violators reside would be better. The problem people that throw acid on their wives and acts as such actually mentally enjoy that level of punishment they are one of the lost souls. Most that do such things will replay that same routine unless they are the type to accept defeat. If they are proud type personality the acid burns will commence. In truth they should be asked if they would be brave enough to face that same punishment if cowardly enough not to don't do it to others. If they do accept the same punishment and continue to do it you don't want them breeding in society or you have generations of mental patients.

 

[OldGoat]

They say it was a robbery, but I don't think so. The surveillance video (not in the link) showed it to be some sort of random attack against the 68 year old Ruan Wen Hui. They already caught a suspect, although he claims it wasn't him, but he matched the description in the video. Same apperance, same t-shirt and the video showed him walking in the direction towards where he lives.

The family wants to add a racial motivation amongst the charges, as it will give the suspect life in prison without the possibility of parole.

While we're discussing crime and punishment, what do you think about an "eye for an eye" justice? I remember an article that was posted on here years ago about a guy in Iran who threw acid on his girlfriend's face, then the punishment given to him was the same. They were going to pour acid on his face just like he did to his ex girlfriend.

Do you think it is too barbaric? It's about the most equal sense of justice I can think of.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nypd-se...y-beating-of-68-year-old-man-in-east-village/

Sounds like more media hype. And in before the lock/delete/dump.

 

[panamaican]

This is what the death penalty is for.

 

[nostradumbass]

They say it was a robbery, but I don't think so. The surveillance video (not in the link) showed it to be some sort of random attack against the 68 year old Ruan Wen Hui. They already caught a suspect, although he claims it wasn't him, but he matched the description in the video. Same apperance, same t-shirt and the video showed him walking in the direction towards where he lives.

The family wants to add a racial motivation amongst the charges, as it will give the suspect life in prison without the possibility of parole.

While we're discussing crime and punishment, what do you think about an "eye for an eye" justice? I remember an article that was posted on here years ago about a guy in Iran who threw acid on his girlfriend's face, then the punishment given to him was the same. They were going to pour acid on his face just like he did to his ex girlfriend.

Do you think it is too barbaric? It's about the most equal sense of justice I can think of.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nypd-se...y-beating-of-68-year-old-man-in-east-village/

That's silly, everyone knows only white men can be racist.

I like the idea of eye for an eye punishment but it isn't doable in many cases because half the thing is the terror of not knowing how or when the assault is going to stop and you can't replicate that and for those, we should just have one guy with AIDS on standby to rape these guys.

 

[Deleted member 159002]

Against. The guy should get life in prison without parole.

 

[Canned Tuna]

Kill him

But in seriousness I'm opposed to eye for an eye justice because of what I perceive to be flaws in our judicial system and because of how hugely different two cases with the same conviction can be. For example, a guy shot a man who kidnapped and sexually abused his son. I dont think that man deserves death. When some thug kills someone and robs them I do think they deserve death. I think someone who rapes people deserves to be raped. I dont think a 19 yearold who gets charged with statutory for banging his 16 or 17 yearold girlfriend deserves to get raped. Then there are the obvious flaws like people being wrongly convicted.

In a world with a perfect prosecution system, i would be all for eye for an eye punishment.

 

[jx820]

I don't see why the motivation for a crime should have any effect on the punishment. If someone kills your Son in an argument is that less traumatic than killing them for their race? Are they more or less dead?

We've reached a point at which insensitivity is a worse crime than murder.

 

[SuperLuigi]

I hope this isnt more of that "knockout game" bs.

 

[Canned Tuna]

We've reached a point at which insensitivity is a worse crime than murder.

Good quote

 

[OldGoat]

I don't see why the motivation for a crime should have any effect on the punishment. If someone kills your Son in an argument is that less traumatic than killing them for their race? Are they more or less dead?

We've reached a point at which insensitivity is a worse crime than murder.

When society focuses on the words of a decrepit man more so than the actions of youths that result in the deaths of a man you know society is screwed.

 

[Jukai]

I don't see why the motivation for a crime should have any effect on the punishment. If someone kills your Son in an argument is that less traumatic than killing them for their race? Are they more or less dead?

We've reached a point at which insensitivity is a worse crime than murder.

Insensitivity to the point of murder is worse than a murder of passion. This should be reasonably obviously....

 

[KOQ24]

They say it was a robbery, but I don't think so. The surveillance video (not in the link) showed it to be some sort of random attack against the 68 year old Ruan Wen Hui. They already caught a suspect, although he claims it wasn't him, but he matched the description in the video. Same apperance, same t-shirt and the video showed him walking in the direction towards where he lives.

The family wants to add a racial motivation amongst the charges, as it will give the suspect life in prison without the possibility of parole.

While we're discussing crime and punishment, what do you think about an "eye for an eye" justice? I remember an article that was posted on here years ago about a guy in Iran who threw acid on his girlfriend's face, then the punishment given to him was the same. They were going to pour acid on his face just like he did to his ex girlfriend.

Do you think it is too barbaric? It's about the most equal sense of justice I can think of.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nypd-se...y-beating-of-68-year-old-man-in-east-village/

apparently the constitiution only applies to gun rights with you hah?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

 

[jx820]

When society focuses on the words of a decrepit man more so than the actions of youths that result in the deaths of a man you know society is screwed.

I'm not worried about the words of a decrepit man. I'm worried about a society that doles out "justice" based on how it polls in a survey rather than on the crime and it's outcome. That issue is overall more important than a single homicide.

Insensitivity to the point of murder is worse than a murder of passion. This should be reasonably obviously....

It's not obvious. The nature of the crime and the end result are EXACTLY the same. Why should the mental frame of the criminal effect sentencing?

 

[Jukai]

It's not obvious. The nature of the crime and the end result are EXACTLY the same. Why should the mental frame of the criminal effect sentencing?

So you're saying that someone who gets annoyed that another person is flirting with his girlfriend and punches him in the mouth, making him fall over and hit his head on the concrete and dies... should be punished the same as a person who hunts and kills someone for fun? Same nature, same end result.

 

[Canned Tuna]

It's not obvious. The nature of the crime and the end result are EXACTLY the same. Why should the mental frame of the criminal effect sentencing?

That isn't true. Killing someone accidentally, ie in a car accident, is not the same as stabbing someone