Media Nevada State Athletic Commission will be holding a special 10-8 training session

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[Davidjacksonjones]

Honored to be in your thread/post of the year!

Will your next post be in 2024

 

[loisestrad]

What's a 10-8 training session? Is that were the coaches absolutely obliterate the students?

 

[2004 account]

This is where they teach them the signal for 'the fix is in'

 

[Pechan]

 

[usernamee]

At least they are reacting to it, this is good news. Although one could expect them to you know.. already understand the rules which they are judging under. But like I said, still good news.

 

[Goutfather]

well, if the score is incorrect, what’s the impediment to changing it? re-training a bunch of judges (who should already be trained btw) doesn’t really fix the specific problem at issue.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Yes, one person fucks up, everyone gets remedial training. Standard practice in the military. Short of firing what's his name, it's about as extreme a measure as you're going to see in the private sector. I applaud this decision.

 

[FreedomCricket]

This pretty much confirms the grasso/Val decision was a fuck up.

That was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

 

[Banana Tree's Nemesis]

Wonder where on the scale of 'trust me bro' to Ariel's classic 'per sources' this 'I'm told' fits in.

To be fair though, the good thing here isn't just that they hold this training. That in itself is a joke, but the one good thing is that it's for all licensed judges to attend.
Because that's the real issue at hand here.
We don't need 10-8s to be this or that, it barely matters what exactly constitutes a 10-8, what we are in such dire need of is just consistency.
At least that's my hope here. That this isn't just blind reactionism, but actually has the purpose to gather all judges to feel out their perspectives and find a common denominator.

 

[The Accuser]

That's exactly the wrong approach: everybody already knows this wasn't a 10-8. Mike Bell knew it wasn't a 10-8. What you gotta do is fire the fucker Mike Bell so judges learn that there are consequences when you fuck up 1000 times worse than the usual minor inconsistency fuck up.

tldr: this isn't about knowledge of the rules, this is about knowing that there are consequences, at least in the most extreme cases.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

What's a 10-8 training session? Is that were the coaches absolutely obliterates the students?

Hahaha imagine

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Will Mike Bell be in attendance?

 

[Tweak896]

The problem with 10-8's are they fuck up scores mathematically for low amount of rounds. The only reason 10-8's and point deductions should be rare is because there are only 3 rounds in a normal fight and 5 for championship. Honestly giving dominant rounds 10-8's isn't controversial, but the impact to the scoring is way too brutal. If you scored a 10-8 every knockdown like boxing you could get some weird judging. I don't know real solution, they could make it 10 rounds and hand them out easier or keep it the same and make fouls/10-8's hard to score unless they are almost finished.

 

[Tapatio]

Why not just fire Mike Bell for this complete fuckery and incompetence? Or maybe he knew what he was doing with the 10-8??

 

[Tito Tapped]

well, if the score is incorrect, what’s the impediment to changing it? re-training a bunch of judges (who should already be trained btw) doesn’t really fix the specific problem at issue.

The score is not incorrect. The only way a score could ever be "incorrect" is if if were written down incorrectly or read incorrectly. You will never ever see a decision like this overturned after the fact as it would just be opening the flood gates for fighters to bring legal action anytime a fight is close and they lost on points.

The score was an outlier. It didn't properly reflect what the majority of viewers saw. It's okay that judges have different opinions and the training is to get everyone on the same page. Ongoing training is crucial and addresses the problem directly.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

You know what this situation kinda reminds me of, except a bit out of order? Wonderboy-Woodley.

First fight was the draw, with Wonderboy winning 3, but dropping a 10-8. And the rematch had some bad scoring including a random 10-8 from Sal D'Amato in there that actually had Keith Kizer (at the time Nevada athletic director) say "The one judge that had it 10-8 — we went over it in the debriefing — and that 10-8 was unacceptable." Which may have been the first time I've ever heard an athletic commission address some accountability.

And now we're in the same situation of people admitting that correct judging would have made the recent fight a different result, which should normally call for people wanting it settled, but not willing to do a third.

 

[Streeter]

Saltchenko just got a fresh salt supply in she should be as Salty as the Dead Sea after this.

 

[Goutfather]

The score is not incorrect. The only way a score could ever be "incorrect" is if if were written down incorrectly or read incorrectly. You will never ever see a decision like this overturned after the fact as it would just be opening the flood gates for fighters to bring legal action anytime a fight is close and they lost on points.

The score was an outlier. It didn't properly reflect what the majority of viewers saw. It's okay that judges have different opinions and the training is to get everyone on the same page. Ongoing training is crucial and addresses the problem directly.

you’re basically saying it’s impossible for a score to be incorrect, it can only be an outlier. what if it was a 10-7? what if it were a 10-8 for schevchenko? at some point, an “outlier” is an incorrect score. i get what you’re saying, but if you wanna protect the integrity of the system, you have to acknowledge and correct mistakes.

 

[MrBlackheart]

This pretty much confirms the grasso/Val decision was a fuck up.

That was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

a lot of people outaged by the score card that has the tie but no one gets upset over the card that had grasso win. I mean shouldn’t the latter be more egregious?