7 reasons why Bobby Green has a better chance than people give him

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1. Bobby Green is actually a pretty good fighter. He very well beat Moises, and his fight against Fiziev was pretty close, if that were the case, he would be on a 7-0 run right now. Sometimes, fighters are better than the number of losses on their record. Green is one of them.

2. Bobby Green is coming on short notice. Islam prepped for Orthodox opponent whole camp, though the argument against it is he had a southpaw opponent not that long ago. In a fight where you have only one path to winning, by finish, I think that favours Green.

3.Green actually does have a wrestling background, not elite but still, and not a bad wrestler necessarily. He has a win over Volkman, Thompson and Guida, and you don't do that unless you know how to wrestle. The list of fighters who decisioned Guida: Madsen, Maynard, Henderson, Diego, Griffin, all in their primes, all of them pretty good wrestlers. Then Bobby Green.

4. Green has only been submitted twice in his career. Twice 13 years ago or so. Out of 42 fights, you get subbed 13 years ago, it shows that though Islam is much, much better grappler, Green probably isn't just a walk in the park like Hooker was on the ground. Hooker, albeit a better fighter than Green, weren't as battle tested with wrestlers as Green was. Actually not at all really, if you look at Hooker's record.

5. Green doesn't have a lot of finishes on his record, but sometimes it comes late in peoples' careers. Look at Hendo, he used to decision people left and right. Masvidal wasn't finishing people really, but then one day he started to put people away. Green looked phenomenal against Al Laquinta, fast and sharp.

6. In a fight like this where you are vastly outgunned and you likely need a mistake from your opponent to win, not a small one either, you HAVE to be willing to take some chances. You may likely lose in more devastating way, by taking chances, that's why lots of fighters go down without swinging and just starting at people, when you are in a fight against much superior opponent, you have to be willing to take some chances and force the action. Obviously, you have to be smart against someone like Islam, but I think Green sounds like the type to take some chances even if that means going down swinging. But that's the only way.

7. Perhaps most importantly, Islam might be overconfident and look past Green. It sounds like Islam might very well be looking past him, and who can blame him? I do think if they run it 10 times, Islam wins at least 9 out of 10 times and Islam vs Dariush winner in my opinion is a better fighter than Gaethje vs Chuck. In my opinion, the best LW on earth right now, but you don't fight 10 times, you fight once, and one punch is all it takes.

I don't think Green stands much of chance against Islam if Islam is focused 100 percent. Even if he doesn't, he probably doesn't stand much of chance barring a big mistake by Islam. Let's be honest, this fight no one wanted to see. Dariush vs Islam on the other hand was one of the best fights of all time at lightweight. But if Islam is looking past him, and he may well be from the sound of things, for the aforementioned reasons, Bobby Green probably has a better chance than people give him in this fight.

Pulling for Islam though.
 
1. Bobby Green is actually a pretty good fighter. He very well beat Moises, and his fight against Fiziev was pretty close, if that were the case, he would be on a 7-0 run right now. Sometimes, fighters are better than the number of losses on their record. Green is one of them.

2. Bobby Green is coming on short notice. Islam prepped for Orthodox opponent whole camp, though the argument against it is he had a southpaw opponent not that long ago. In a fight where you have only one path to winning, by finish, I think that favours Green.

3.Green actually does have a wrestling background, not elite but still, and not a bad wrestler necessarily. He has a win over Volkman, Thompson and Guida, and you don't do that unless you know how to wrestle. The list of fighters who decisioned Guida: Madsen, Maynard, Henderson, Diego, Griffin, all in their primes, all of them pretty good wrestlers. Then Bobby Green.

4. Green has only been submitted twice in his career. Twice 13 years ago or so. Out of 42 fights, you get subbed 13 years ago, it shows that though Islam is much, much better grappler, Green probably isn't just a walk in the park like Hooker was on the ground. Hooker, albeit a better fighter than Green, weren't as battle tested with wrestlers as Green was. Actually not at all really, if you look at Hooker's record.

5. Green doesn't have a lot of finishes on his record, but sometimes it comes late in peoples' careers. Look at Hendo, he used to decision people left and right. Masvidal wasn't finishing people really, but then one day he started to put people away. Green looked phenomenal against Al Laquinta, fast and sharp.

6. In a fight like this where you are vastly outgunned and you likely need a mistake from your opponent to win, not a small one either, you HAVE to be willing to take some chances. You may likely lose in more devastating way, by taking chances, that's why lots of fighters go down without swinging and just starting at people, when you are in a fight against much superior opponent, you have to be willing to take some chances and force the action. Obviously, you have to be smart against someone like Islam, but I think Green sounds like the type to take some chances even if that means going down swinging. But that's the only way.

7. Perhaps most importantly, Islam might be overconfident and look past Green. It sounds like Islam might very well be looking past him, and who can blame him? I do think if they run it 10 times, Islam wins at least 9 out of 10 times and Islam vs Dariush winner in my opinion is a better fighter than Gaethje vs Chuck. In my opinion, the best LW on earth right now, but you don't fight 10 times, you fight once, and one punch is all it takes.

I don't think Green stands much of chance against Islam if Islam is focused 100 percent. Even if he doesn't, he probably doesn't stand much of chance barring a big mistake by Islam. Let's be honest, this fight no one wanted to see. Dariush vs Islam on the other hand was one of the best fights of all time at lightweight. But if Islam is looking past him, and he may well be from the sound of things, for the aforementioned reasons, Bobby Green probably has a better chance than people give him in this fight.

Pulling for Islam though.

With all due respect, some of these points are off. Some are good though.

1. good point. Green is better than his record suggests... though we cannot count his close losses as wins to make him 7-0. That isn't how it works.

2. the fact is both of them had a recent fight camp, neither was training for each other. Null point

3, 4. True, Green is a reasonably good wrestler who is hard to sub.

5. Probably the worst point. To say "sometimes the finishes come late in peoples career" is exactly the argument contrary to your intention. Green HAD a bunch of finishes early in his career. He went from KO/sub guy to decision guy. Exactly the opposite of guys like Henderson

6. Green hasn't really shown himself to be "the type to take chances". The very reason he has almost exclusively had decisions for 10 years is because he primarily sticks with low risk fundamentals.

7. True, Islam could very well be overlooking him. None of us can say.
 
To add to number 1, many people believe he beat Klose and Trinaldo, too.
 
Is Hooker really better than Green? I think they're pretty similar, Hooker is over-ranked and Green is underrated.

Similar wins in Haqparast and Iaquinta. Hooker has beaten Felder and LW Burns I guess... Edge to Hooker, sure.
 
Is Hooker really better than Green? I think they're pretty similar, Hooker is over-ranked and Green is underrated.

Similar wins in Haqparast and Iaquinta. Hooker has beaten Felder and LW Burns I guess... Edge to Hooker, sure.

I agree with you. They're both at a similar level.

Hooker's best win was a SD over #6 ranked Felder
Green's best win was a SD over #3 ranked Thomson

Other than that, they share 4 common opponents: Iaguinta, Haqparast, Poirier, and Barboza. Green did better against all of them except Poirier. Hooker does have a nice win over Burns, but Burns was always just a middle of the pack guy at LW. We also need to take into consideration that green arguably won several of his "losses"

All signs point to both Green and Hooker being similar level fighters.
 
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I feel Bobby Green still has a better chance than Bobby Blue.
 
He taunts an aweful lot, works when they wanna just strike with you. Its built into his style. Islam is landing a TD off a timed taunt, watch.
 
I agree with you. They're both at a similar level.

Hooker's best win was a SD over #6 ranked Felder
Green's best win was a SD over #3 ranked Thomson

Other than that, they share 4 common opponents: Iaguinta, Haqparast, Poirier, and Barboza. Green did better against all of them except Poirier. Hooker does have a nice win over Burns, but Burns was always just a middle of the pack guy at LW. We also need to take into consideration that green arguably won several of his "losses"

All signs point to both Green and Hooker being similar level fighters.

"Middle of the pack" Burns? He has better wins than either Green or Hooker (or Islam, of course). He got a well-deserved title shot where he damn near dethroned Usman. Burns may not be elite, but he definitely is not "middle of the pack"
The rest of that post was pretty accurate, though.
 
He taunts an aweful lot, works when they wanna just strike with you. Its built into his style. Islam is landing a TD off a timed taunt, watch.

Funny, I was just talking with a co-worker the other day about how his style may help him. Maybe not the "taunting" specifically, but he often fights with his hands down. Against strikers this is considered a no-no, but he shouldn't need to fear Islam much in the standup, and his hands down approach that he is ALREADY well versed at may help him defend the TD.
 
Hendo used to finish people throughout his career. His big wins were by decisions and that’s where the name came from. Not from an inability to finish fights.
 
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