News Arizona commission is no longer publicly releasing fighter pay, per commission spokesperson

[TorontoTO]

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

UFC on the attack soon they’ll come after California

 

[Sweater of AV]

"I would suggest reaching out to the promoter to obtain that information"

 

[Ice Hotel]

 

[Deleted member 585708]

The title of this thread is a lesson in how to let this shit slide.

WTF, Toronto?

This is a big deal in the Great Pay War of MMA.

Why would you allow these goofs an easy out?

Call it what it is: Arizona Commission Intimidated by UFC, Scared to Release Fighter Pay as Pay Too Low

 

[Black Paladin]

Who wants to bet me that the people who made that decision got some "incentives" to do so?

 

[Kb7]

Fighter salaries should have never been public in the first place.

Put it this way, if media, fans and fighter pay social justice warriors have a problem with this you can directly ask fighters via social media how much they get paid sinceit was public knowledge before this change.

 

[VinceArch]

No longer releasing fighter pay? Fighters will only speak up more if the pay isn't improved.

 

[WingzOfRedemption]

Arizona is the new fight island

 

[Megatronlee]

And nobody is gnna do SHIT

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Fighter salaries should have never been public in the first place.

Put it this way, if media, fans and fighter pay social justice warriors have a problem with this you can directly ask fighters via social media how much they get paid sinceit was public knowledge before this change.

That doesn't even make sense.

Do you want to try writing that again so it's legible?

 

[WHITEBELT JESUS]

 

[Kb7]

That doesn't even make sense.

Do you want to try writing that again so it's legible?

Maybe I should, English is not my first language.

What don't you understand?

Commissions for years released fighter salaries.

Commissions changes policy by not releasing them anymore.

Fighter salaries should have never been public knowledge in the first place.

Fans, Media, these fighter pay warriors that's currently making Sherdog unbearable will twist it to make it seem like it's the UFC's fault.

If you want to know what fighters make, message them on social media since it was public knowledge before, these fighters shouldn't have a problem telling anyone how much they get paid.

This thread will end up being a jerk session with posters hating on Dana White & the UFC.

 

[TorontoTO]

Fighter salaries should have never been public in the first place.

Put it this way, if media, fans and fighter pay social justice warriors have a problem with this you can directly ask fighters via social media how much they get paid sinceit was public knowledge before this change.

You know UFC contracts have a clause that you can’t discuss that? Whether the UFC feels like enforcing that is up to their discretion

 

[baba2008]

Fighter salaries should have never been public in the first place.

Put it this way, if media, fans and fighter pay social justice warriors have a problem with this you can directly ask fighters via social media how much they get paid sinceit was public knowledge before this change.

I agree - these are jobs in the private sector not the public/government s3ctor where the average taxpayer would have some right to know. In Ontario we have a ‘Sunshine List’ that shows every government (ie. tax payer funded) worker that earns over $100,000. Spoiler alert - there are far too many.

The real question is whether we will have more or fewer fighter pay threads, because even one is one more than we need.

 

[Phisher]

Fighter salaries should have never been public in the first place.

Put it this way, if media, fans and fighter pay social justice warriors have a problem with this you can directly ask fighters via social media how much they get paid sinceit was public knowledge before this change.

The fuck do SJWs have to do with anything?

Every other pro sport publicly discloses salaries without issue because it's actually in the athlete's favor against management.

Lack of disclosure stacks the deck in the promotion's favor because it makes it impossible to negotiate or check for parity between fighters who have similar experience, success, buyrates etc.

Only a braindead UFC bootlick would cheer this on.

 

[TorontoTO]

Maybe I should, English is not my first language.

What don't you understand?

Commissions for years released fighter salaries.

Commissions changes policy by not releasing them anymore.

Fighter salaries should have never been public knowledge in the first place.

Fans, Media, these fighter pay warriors that's currently making Sherdog unbearable will twist it to make it seem like it's the UFC's fault.

If you want to know what fighters make, message them on social media since it was public knowledge before, these fighters shouldn't have a problem telling anyone how much they get paid.

This thread will end up being a jerk session with posters hating on Dana White & the UFC.

Why shouldn’t they? Athletes in all other sports have their salaries public.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Maybe I should, English is not my first language.

What don't you understand?

Commissions for years released fighter salaries.

Commissions changes policy by not releasing them anymore.

Fighter salaries should have never been public knowledge in the first place.

Fans, Media, these fighter pay warriors that's currently making Sherdog unbearable will twist it to make it seem like it's the UFC's fault.

If you want to know what fighters make, message them on social media since it was public knowledge before, these fighters shouldn't have a problem telling anyone how much they get paid.

This thread will end up being a jerk session with posters hating on Dana White & the UFC.

Ah, now I feel bad.

I'm sorry @Kb7.

All right, so here's where we differ - you can't rely on messaging fighters for their undisclosed earnings, they have zero incentive to tell you the accurate figure. Many will be embarrassed about it (fact, not fiction), and will exaggerate.

I've worked with fighters from nations that don't get paid at all, and some where they pay to fight; guess how forthcoming they were with that information? NOT VERY. Why? Because they wanted to make sure when international promotions came calling they didn't get taken advantage of.

Back to the UFC.

The UFC is embarrassed to publish it's pay figures, hence the action we're seeing - that's an absolute disgrace. They are cowards, and Dana is a moron.

The purses are part of the public eye right now whether you agree with that or whether you do not - and there is only ONE beneficiary of future non-disclosure - the company that doesn't pay enough, and is bored of the narrative.

All they are trying to do is shut down the narrative.

Fuck them, buddy. Fuck their efforts to shut down the discourse. Let them go to Hell.

 

[TorontoTO]

The fuck do SJWs have to do with anything?

Every other pro sport publicly discloses salaries without issue because it's actually in the athlete's favor against management.

Lack of disclosure stacks the deck in the promotion's favor because it makes it impossible to negotiate or check for parity fighters who have similar experience, success, buyrates etc.

Only a braindead UFC bootlick would cheer this on.

Not discussing salaries is some weird psychosis that corporations have pushed to destroy a workers negotiation position. How are you supposed to know if you are getting fucked or not if you don’t know what the baseline for someone off your experience is

 

[Kb7]

You know UFC contracts have a clause that you can’t discuss that? Whether the UFC feels like enforcing that is up to their discretion

Yes, somehow I knew that. It was mentioned to me a a year or so when Vegas stopped releasing salaries. Those threads ended up being the same way, a UFC hate thread. I replied with a similar post as I did in this thread. Yet it is still discussed heasvily among fighters.