is there a scenario where Derrick Lewis becomes the hw champ

[alex21cms]

if he beats Tuivasa , at this point i would argue that Lewis is the better boxer and could catch Frank not saying is gonna happen only that it would be freaking hilarious

 

[Richard Fannin]

Black Beast already nullified Ngannou's power once, he could do it again.

The Predator wants none of that smoke!

But I don't see Lewis winning against Gane in a rematch, and I suppose he would have to beat Ciryl to get a title shot; I mean, Bon Gamin should get at least 2 impressive wins to be considered for another title shot, and in the meantime Francis should also defend the belt a couple times.

We shall see, we shall see... Ciryl Gane vs Stipe Miocic is the fight I want to watch, to be able to gauge Gane's level better.

 

[HeDidn'tWantTheFight]

Black Beast already nullified Ngannou's power once, he could do it again.

The Predator wants none of that smoke!

But I don't see Lewis winning against Gane in a rematch, and I suppose he would have to beat Ciryl to get a title shot; I mean, Bon Gamin should get at least 2 impressive wins to be considered for another title shot, and in the meantime Francis should also defend the belt a couple times.

We shall see, we shall see... Ciryl Gane vs Stipe Miocic is the fight I want to watch, to be able to gauge Gane's level better.

I don't think he'd have to beat Cyril to get a shot. Ortega didn't have to beat Max. A rematch would likely come if he got the belt though.

 

[Carrotman23]

Black Beast already nullified Ngannou's power once, he could do it again.

The Predator wants none of that smoke!

But I don't see Lewis winning against Gane in a rematch, and I suppose he would have to beat Ciryl to get a title shot; I mean, Bon Gamin should get at least 2 impressive wins to be considered for another title shot, and in the meantime Francis should also defend the belt a couple times.

We shall see, we shall see... Ciryl Gane vs Stipe Miocic is the fight I want to watch, to be able to gauge Gane's level better.

I love how people post that one pic and try to pretend that fight was something it wasn't . They both nullified each other . Don't care who got their hand raised nobody won that fight we all know it . Plus that was the Francis who had just experienced ego death after the first Stipe fight. I've seen Francis improve massively in literally every aspect of MMA while Derrick Lewis looks like the exact same basic counter punching brawler . And with Francis's frame , chin and reach advantage I doubt black beast gets the lucky KO . He'd get outclassed most likely in a rematch .
And this fight was so close that Gane should need only 1 win before a rematch and the UFC loves rematches so if Francis re-signs I'm sure that'll happen .
Stipe Vs Gane is a good matchup though I like that fight a lot . Learn who Gane really is more and see if Stipe's still got it.

 

[alex21cms]

I love how people post that one pic and try to pretend that fight was something it wasn't . They both nullified each other . Don't care who got their hand raised nobody won that fight we all know it . Plus that was the Francis who had just experienced ego death after the first Stipe fight. I've seen Francis improve massively in literally every aspect of MMA while Derrick Lewis looks like the exact same basic counter punching brawler . And with Francis's frame , chin and reach advantage I doubt black beast gets the lucky KO . He'd get outclassed most likely in a rematch .
And this fight was so close that Gane should need only 1 win before a rematch and the UFC loves rematches so if Francis re-signs I'm sure that'll happen .
Stipe Vs Gane is a good matchup though I like that fight a lot . Learn who Gane really is more and see if Stipe's still got it.

after tonigth i m pretty sure he was shoked of BB power and don t even talk about wrestling cuz you saw what happened to blaydes

 

[Fergelmince]

I love how people post that one pic and try to pretend that fight was something it wasn't . They both nullified each other . Don't care who got their hand raised nobody won that fight we all know it . Plus that was the Francis who had just experienced ego death after the first Stipe fight. I've seen Francis improve massively in literally every aspect of MMA while Derrick Lewis looks like the exact same basic counter punching brawler . And with Francis's frame , chin and reach advantage I doubt black beast gets the lucky KO . He'd get outclassed most likely in a rematch .
And this fight was so close that Gane should need only 1 win before a rematch and the UFC loves rematches so if Francis re-signs I'm sure that'll happen .
Stipe Vs Gane is a good matchup though I like that fight a lot . Learn who Gane really is more and see if Stipe's still got it.

TS probably did it to trigger TF out of ngannou nuthuggers. Judging by your response, I'd say it worked fantastically.

 

[Carrotman23]

TS probably did it to trigger TF out of ngannou nuthuggers. Judging by your response, I'd say it worked fantastically.

That's not me being "triggered" bud . That's me expressing my opinion and having a dialogue with someone about MMA on an MMA forum .
Go back to 4chan

 

[alex21cms]

TS probably did it to trigger TF out of ngannou nuthuggers. Judging by your response, I'd say it worked fantastically.

 

[Fergelmince]

That's not me being "triggered" bud . That's me expressing my opinion and having a dialogue with someone about MMA on an MMA forum .
Go back to 4chan

 

[CroCopsLHK]

Lewis hates 5 rounders

 

[Richard Fannin]

I love how people post that one pic and try to pretend that fight was something it wasn't . They both nullified each other . Don't care who got their hand raised nobody won that fight we all know it . Plus that was the Francis who had just experienced ego death after the first Stipe fight. I've seen Francis improve massively in literally every aspect of MMA while Derrick Lewis looks like the exact same basic counter punching brawler . And with Francis's frame , chin and reach advantage I doubt black beast gets the lucky KO . He'd get outclassed most likely in a rematch .
And this fight was so close that Gane should need only 1 win before a rematch and the UFC loves rematches so if Francis re-signs I'm sure that'll happen .
Stipe Vs Gane is a good matchup though I like that fight a lot . Learn who Gane really is more and see if Stipe's still got it.

Aw, I'll admit I was being a tad cheeky with the picture & gif & the use of "nullified" ...

About Gane vs Miocic, it's my preferred match-up too since both guys deserve a high profile bout to get back in title contention, and stylistically it's a very interesting one.

Gane vs #5 Blaydes could also make sense, since Curtis won his last against Rozenstruik, and is overall 5-1 in his last 6... only problem is that it would be hard to sell a Blaydes/Ngannou trilogy, as the wrestler already got stopped twice by the champ.



Plus, looking at other HW contenders for Ciryl to beat and rebound on, it's hard to find one that isn't already taken, hasn't left the UFC (Overeem and Werdum could have been nice, especially Werdum IMHO) hasn't lost his last bout;

- #9 Marcin Tybura lost his last bout to Volkov (before that, he was on a 5 wins streak in the UFC) and he's locked with Roz now. If he wins, he could be a potential opponent.
- #10 Chris Daukaus lost his last one to Lewis (was 4-0 in the UFC before that)

#4 Black Beast is set to give us a wild banger against #11 "Bam Bam" Tuivasa

#6 Volkov is set to fight #8 Tom Aspinali in what should be a sweet technical striking bout, that should be on the opposite end of Lewis/Tuivasa.
Should Volkov win that one, he might campaign for a Gane rematch, which would worry me as this fight made me super nervous the first time around ><

Anyway, we'll see, we'll see... Stipe remains my favorite fight for Gane right now though.

 

[SpiderCrawl]

No

 

[Carrotman23]

Aw, I'll admit I was being a tad cheeky with the picture & gif & the use of "nullified" ...

About Gane vs Miocic, it's my preferred match-up too since both guys deserve a high profile bout to get back in title contention, and stylistically it's a very interesting one.

Gane vs #5 Blaydes could also make sense, since Curtis won his last against Rozenstruik, and is overall 5-1 in his last 6... only problem is that it would be hard to sell a Blaydes/Ngannou trilogy, as the wrestler already got stopped twice by the champ.



Plus, looking at other HW contenders for Ciryl to beat and rebound on, it's hard to find one that isn't already taken, hasn't left the UFC (Overeem and Werdum could have been nice, especially Werdum IMHO) hasn't lost his last bout;

- #9 Marcin Tybura lost his last bout to Volkov (before that, he was on a 5 wins streak in the UFC) and he's locked with Roz now. If he wins, he could be a potential opponent.
- #10 Chris Daukaus lost his last one to Lewis (was 4-0 in the UFC before that)

#4 Black Beast is set to give us a wild banger against #11 "Bam Bam" Tuivasa

#6 Volkov is set to fight #8 Tom Aspinali in what should be a sweet technical striking bout, that should be on the opposite end of Lewis/Tuivasa.
Should Volkov win that one, he might campaign for a Gane rematch, which would worry me as this fight made me super nervous the first time around ><

Anyway, we'll see, we'll see... Stipe remains my favorite fight for Gane right now though.

Lol i gotcha all good .
Great post though and yeah Gane vs Stipe is the perfect fight to make, tells us a lot about both no matter what happens and the winner has a perfect narrative to fight Francis .

I was first on the Blaydes fight too because it would give Gane a sort of redemption arc if he was able to pull of the victory by stopping Blaydes takedowns . Then the narrative in the rematch could be about Francis's wrestling and how Gane is prepared for it now. BUT you bring up a solid point ... Its a very winnable fight for Blaydes and it would fuck up the division if he won.

Yeah all the others seem tied up or just not interesting matchups if I'm being honest . I like the Volkov idea okay because I'm a fan of him but I feel like we don't need to see Gane vs Volkov again and it might be good to let Volkov climb the division avoiding Gane and Stipe so he could be a in a "stay busy" title fight in the future if you will .

Man HW is kinda a fuckin mess right now, I guess Stipe Vs Gane is the only option and that can happen while Francis waits to re-sign (hopefully) in December .
Of course there is a potential wild card.... Jon Jones

 

[balkanbomber85]

There was, right after Francis beat Stipe and BB became the 1st challenger, there was this small time window where Lewis theoretically had a good change of becoming the HW champion of the world. If Ngannou had agreed to fight immediately (before christmas 2021) he would have still been full of himself and he would have tried to blitzkrieg BB in the rematch, and BB would have had a realistic chance to catch and knockout him into oblivion...

but we all know what happened, Francis became this huge diva he is, Dana and his complex then decided they need an wh interim title after like 3 months after Francis just got the hw champ, BB lost to Gane, and so on...